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"Saddam had WMDs yet evolution is a vast left wing conspiracy"

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Marcus Maloy

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^^^ Very telling indeed my friends



Conservatives are tin foil hat wearing nut jobs
 
Uhhh, no.

What does Saddam have anyhting to do with evolution? Please link the 2 together so that it makes since.
 
What does Saddam have anyhting to do with evolution? Please link the 2 together so that it makes since.
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Nothing...
But conservatives believe that the "WMD" crap is a FACT, and we know that there were never any WMD's in Iraq and that the American people were lied too.
On the other hand, things that have a great multitude of fact to them, such as Evolution, are considered LIES by conservatives....


Doesn't make much sense does it?
 
Obama08 said:
we know that there were never any WMD's in Iraq
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Chemical and biological weapons are under that term, and thus is it safe to say that he at least had them at one point. Since he used them against the Kurds and all.
 
Obama08 said:
Nothing...
But conservatives believe that the "WMD" crap is a FACT, and we know that there were never any WMD's in Iraq and that the American people were lied too.
On the other hand, things that have a great multitude of fact to them, such as Evolution, are considered LIES by conservatives....

***Saddam had WMD and he used them on his own people. We did find 500 units of WMD's and the rest were either destroyed, hidden or sent to Syria once the heat from the U.N. was lit under Saddam's arse. So the American people were not lied to, and Saddam is dead (good riddance) and Iraq now has a Democracy thanks to Bush. So I see that you believe we are evolutionary decendants of apes. Another liberal with his head on straight...that's progress my man.
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Chemical and biological weapons are under that term, and thus is it safe to say that he at least had them at one point. Since he used them against the Kurds and all.
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Saddam had WMD and he used them on his own people. We did find 500 units of WMD's and the rest were either destroyed, hidden or sent to Syria once the heat from the U.N. was lit under Saddam's arse
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You’re both talking about the "biological" weapons that were found correct?
And no, they're not WMD.
They were degraded rusted shells from what use to be a biological weapon back during the 1980's Iran/Iraq war. They degraded to the point where there was basically nothing in them, and they were less harmful than common household cleaners. Saddam had absolutely no idea that they existed...So no, there we're never any "Weapons of Mass Destruction" found in Iraq.
Even if you wanted to count degraded canisters as "WMD", you still miss the fact that these were not the "WMD" that Bush was talking about when he lied to the American people.
This was a cute little ploy to try and save Bush's ***.... calling little metal can's with things less harmful than Windex "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION".
I guess they thought this would vindicate him er something...
Who knows what goes through the mind of Rick Santorum?
 
So I see that you believe we are evolutionary decendants of apes.
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..And you believe what again?
We were made from mud?
 
Obama08 said:
You’re both talking about the "biological" weapons that were found correct?
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No, I'm not. I'm talking about the ones he used to kill hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people. I don't subscribe to the idea that Saddam had any WMDs when we went into Iraq in 2003, nor that he had any for quite some time. But what I'm saying is that AT SOME POINT he certainly had them.
 
No, I'm not. I'm talking about the ones he used to kill hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people. I don't subscribe to the idea that Saddam had any WMDs when we went into Iraq in 2003, nor that he had any for quite some time. But what I'm saying is that AT SOME POINT he certainly had them.
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Ok well the main point that needs to be taken into consideration is that he didn't have them when we went it, and these weren't the ones used in the original arguments to invade the country.
 
Obama08 said:
You’re both talking about the "biological" weapons that were found correct?
And no, they're not WMD.
They were degraded rusted shells from what use to be a biological weapon back during the 1980's Iran/Iraq war. They degraded to the point where there was basically nothing in them, and they were less harmful than common household cleaners. Saddam had absolutely no idea that they existed...So no, there we're never any "Weapons of Mass Destruction" found in Iraq.
Even if you wanted to count degraded canisters as "WMD", you still miss the fact that these were not the "WMD" that Bush was talking about when he lied to the American people.
This was a cute little ploy to try and save Bush's ***.... calling little metal can's with things less harmful than Windex "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION".
I guess they thought this would vindicate him er something...
Who knows what goes through the mind of Rick Santorum?
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Did Clinton lie when he said Saddam had WMDs? Did Kerry lie when he said Saddam had WMDs? Was the rest of the world lying when they said Saddam had WMDs?
 
Did Clinton lie when he said Saddam had WMDs? Did Kerry lie when he said Saddam had WMDs? Was the rest of the world lying when they said Saddam had WMDs?
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Clinton never said he had WMD...
The most he ever said was of the possibility that Saddam could obtain enriched uranium, meaning he could have them in the future.
Kerry was going on the reports the President addressed to congress, which were later discovered to be flat out lies.

"The rest of the world"...your joking right?
 
Obama08 said:
Clinton never said he had WMD...
The most he ever said was of the possibility that Saddam could obtain enriched uranium, meaning he could have them in the future.
Kerry was going on the reports the President addressed to congress, which were later discovered to be flat out lies.

"The rest of the world"...your joking right?
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Bill Clinton > February 17, 1998


"If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

John Kerry > October 9, 2002


"I will be voting to give the president of the US the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

The Democrats, as well as the rest of the worlds intelligence agengies believed Saddam had WMDs. I you think President Bush is a liar, then you have to accuse the Democrats and other countries intelligence agencies of lying.
 
Obama08 said:
Clinton never said he had WMD...
The most he ever said was of the possibility that Saddam could obtain enriched uranium, meaning he could have them in the future.
Kerry was going on the reports the President addressed to congress, which were later discovered to be flat out lies.

"The rest of the world"...your joking right?
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You're joking right?? You should really learn something about the topic before commenting.
 
Obama08 said:
Nothing...
But conservatives believe that the "WMD" crap is a FACT, and we know that there were never any WMD's in Iraq and that the American people were lied too.
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"We" don't know that. We didn't find find huge quantities, no surprising, but he was a WMD threat.

Read the reports of the ISG and the 9/11 Commission.

For example why did he have huge stocks of organophosphates stored in under ground camouflaged bunkers on his military basis? Those are the precursor chemicals for nerve gases. Why was his secret police experimenting with ways to disperse such chemicals in civilian areas that terrorist could use?
 
Obama08 said:
Clinton never said he had WMD...
The most he ever said was of the possibility that Saddam could obtain enriched uranium, meaning he could have them in the future.
Kerry was going on the reports the President addressed to congress, which were later discovered to be flat out lies.

"The rest of the world"...your joking right?
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You are very ignorant on this matter. I bet you get your news from the MSM. Here is what the Clinton administration believed and what other Dems believed

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

You've been lied to but not by the Bush administration.
 
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