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Are you describing concierge medicine?
Are you describing concierge medicine?In the U.S. we have something called family practices. I have a family doctor that I adore. If I need help beyond his care, he makes the calls that I do not have to sit in any emergency room to be seen.. I go directly to the specialist.
I do not know how Canada operates their healthcare. It is not my concern.
Please do elaborate upon how the OP is in any way evidence of Canada lying "by omission" or perhaps in any other way "about what really goes on in their country."I think the point here from the O/P is that Canada lies, (lies by omission) about what really goes on in their country.
You don't need them because you're not a raging idiot like most Magats.Maybe I need to recruit some fluffers too. Is there a DP classifieds section where I can recruit some?
Actually you are correct, the 48 hours the Canadian parents WAITED before seeking medical help for their ailing Canadian son is most assuredly the largest factor in this young mans death, before his also waiting another 8 hours in a ER, because the mother wasn't up to being a good advocate for her son, as she just sat there in the ER with him, accepting his condition as it worsened, without making a major ruckus.You sure as heck seem to want to avoid talking about Canadian wait times, which is exactly what led to the death of this young man.
No, I would not expect you to possess such a skill set.what? im supposed to track usernames and factor that to evaluate a thread?? who does that????
It’s just something @trixare4kids lied about in order to sate a need to demonize Canada. Donald issued his soldiers orders to villainize Canada so that he can feel better about himself, so what is she going to do, disobey orders? Of course not. Hence her “Canada lies!” rant.Please do elaborate upon how the OP is in any way evidence of Canada lying "by omission" or perhaps in any other way "about what really goes on in their country."
I am really not seeing what you are seeing.
Yabbut, the OP wanted to knock down the Canadian medical system and quickly got knocked down herself if you follow the comments throughout this thread. When someone comes on here with a story and makes it an agenda, it is easy to knock down that agenda.What a tragic story. It happens in both Canada and the US.
I've noticed that some people in here have a very specific voice, point of view, posting MO, whatever. It's not that hard for me to recognize it. YMMV.what? im supposed to track usernames and factor that to evaluate a thread?? who does that????
I have humbled the OP on a number of occasions and being Canadian, maybe THAT is her motivation?Everywhere we turn, there's @gbg3 starting a thread about how bad Canada is. So, why would you think "why does MAGA like starting threads about something bad about Canada?"
It's hard to say. My best guess is that Donald ordered her to demonize Canada, and like most MAGA, she will follow her orders, so Saturday just happened to be the day she started her 8th thread that attempts to villainize your country. Among her repertoire, I would say this thread is comfortably above her thread about how Canada is a big slacker in NATO and her thread about how Tucker is very upset by Canada, but it doesn't look like it will reach the lofty heights of her thread about how Canada supports Communists, much less her masterpiece about how Canadians have no freedom.I have humbled the OP on a number of occasions and being Canadian, maybe THAT is her motivation?
Agreed. In the future I hope @gbg3 clears threads like these with @trixare4kids beforehand, since @trixare4kids has made it very clear that she does not want @gbg3 starting threads about countries other than the one that she resides in. I hate to see MAGA at odds with each other like this, so hopefully they're able to get together, figure out where they went wrong, and chart a path forward.You may want to run that by the unofficial monitor of foreign issues discussion named after a breakfast cereal commercial, because apparently you're only supposed to discuss issues related to the country you're from. Apparently in that person's world, people are not informed of what goes on in other countries.
Plus, I suspect she has me on ignore do to being humbled my myself in the past. Que Sera Sera.It's hard to say. My best guess is that Donald ordered her to demonize Canada, and like most MAGA, she will follow her orders, so Saturday just happened to be the day she started her 8th thread that attempts to villainize your country. Among her repertoire, I would say this thread is comfortably above her thread about how Canada is a big slacker in NATO and her thread about how Tucker is very upset by Canada, but it doesn't look like it will reach the lofty heights of her thread about how Canada supports Communists, much less her masterpiece about how Canadians have no freedom.
Uh, these aren’t examples of concern trolling.No worse than some other concern trolling type threads.
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Do you get the feeling some of these posters are still in middle school?
Always a possibility that parents waited longer than should have or teenagers being teenagers waited until they were really in pain. For any negative outcome there are usually multiple steps that were taken to get there. However, an ER is designed to handle acute problems so for whatever reason - staff ability, protocols, workload, etc - something was not recognized once they were in their care.Mom and Pop missed taking their sick child to a doctor for two days before rushing him to the ER.
Yes, there is no question that something went very wrong. Blaming it on "wait times" is just a shallow expression with no substance. What the real question is is why did it take so long to get to this kid? Was it staffing , ER procedures and protocols, some huge unexpected influx of trauma victims, an error in triage.....and that why must be addressed in that hospital.Always a possibility that parents waited longer than should have or teenagers being teenagers waited until they were really in pain. For any negative outcome there are usually multiple steps that were taken to get there. However, an ER is designed to handle acute problems so for whatever reason - staff ability, protocols, workload, etc - something was not recognized once they were in their care.
My experience is usually staffing and/or unusual amount of patients. For sure when a trauma patient comes in, it can be all hands on deck for a period in an attempt to stabilize. Yes, this episode can happen in any healthcare facility on the planet and does more than people realize.Yes, there is no question that something went very wrong. Blaming it on "wait times" is just a shallow expression with no substance. What the real question is is why did it take so long to get to this kid? Was it staffing , ER procedures and protocols, some huge unexpected influx of trauma victims, an error in triage.....and that why must be addressed in that hospital.
The absurdity of the OP was having this case be some kind of indictment of an entire healthcare system, and even worse, a poor attempt at trying to reciprocate for whatever perceived slight some posters have about our non US posters commenting about the US. The thin skinned always flail.Yes, there is no question that something went very wrong. Blaming it on "wait times" is just a shallow expression with no substance. What the real question is is why did it take so long to get to this kid? Was it staffing , ER procedures and protocols, some huge unexpected influx of trauma victims, an error in triage.....and that why must be addressed in that hospital.
I find it hard to believe you are personally interested in the state of emergency medical care. You are, after all, a Republican. Your party works continuously to make health care worse. If you are trying to point out how much worse Canadian health care is than the health care in the US, then it's a fail.No doubt, this is a very long wait and a very sad outcome.
"An Ontario family is calling on the provincial government to introduce legislation that would set maximum emergency room wait times for children after their teenage son died following an eight-hour wait for a doctor in a hospital last year.
GJ and Hazel van der Werken, of Burlington, Ont., said their 16-year-old son, Finlay, had a few days of mild illness and was suffering from migraines before his condition began to worsen. Hazel rushed him to Oakville Trafalgar Memorial Hospital on Feb. 7, 2024, she said.
"We go through to the normal emergency department which was filled with a lot of people, just the whole corridor was just full of people in chairs," Hazel recalled in an interview Thursday. "That was where Finlay was calling out in pain."
He was triaged quickly, she said, which gave her hope that he'd see at doctor "at any moment."
"But the 'any moment' turned into eight hours and 22 minutes," Hazel said."
Especially since the rarity of this particular situation caused the Canadian national news networks to light-up like a 4th of July fireworks display.Please do elaborate upon how the OP is in any way evidence of Canada lying "by omission" or perhaps in any other way "about what really goes on in their country."
I am really not seeing what you are seeing.
Nice try at dodging the "no personal insults" rule. As subtle as Donald's comb-over.Do you get the feeling some of these posters are still in middle school?
The difference between "being laughed at" and "laughing at" needs explaining to some? I wonder who?I know, the laughs just keep coming.
Crickets from the sources of mirth.Especially since the rarity of this particular situation caused the Canadian national news networks to light-up like a 4th of July fireworks display.
Of course it happened and perhaps there have been other similar examples. In Canada though, it is not a situation ignored or made worse by insurance middle men meddling.
This episode has already generated all provinces being audited by various entities for similar events occurring with all Provincial Premieres already having to explain exigencies of healthcare deficiencies across the board. Does that happen in the U.S.?
Does an unnecessary death of a teen in the U.S. result in ALL STATES going through a self critique and having to answer questions related to ALL facets of their Individual failures from lack of staff to long ambulance response times?
That is what the death of this teen in Canada has resulted in. Politicians across the country are having their feet held to the fire, even though they’ve not been subject to a similar occasion.
EG: In the province of Alberta, a province 2,000 miles and two provinces away from where this tragic event occurred, already held a presser answering questions about its healthcare system. Does that kind of pressure befall other State’s Governors at the failure of a “anywhere U.S.A.” single hospital’s E/R ?
That's not the point at all, neither from the article or the comment made by the OP. The fact that this is reported on and steps are being taken to review and remedy any shortcomings hobbles the idea there are any "lies by omission", which is just laughable. There is no perfect healthcare system in the world, because each has their trade-offs and have prioritized how broadly they make it accessible and how that's done. That some you and other thin skinned people here get bent out of shape because others critique our system is you and other's failings, especially since there's rare an actual rebuttal and defense of our system, but instead the typical pointless ankle biting.Very, very sorry for your loss. We don't deny that our health care system is not perfect. Far from it.
I think the point here from the O/P is that Canada lies, (lies by omission) about what really goes on in their country. Their HC system is not as stellar as some would like us to believe.
In Canada and other parts of the world they have these too, and in Canada they're called family practices too. The UK has these as well, though there they are referred to as GPs (general practitioners).In the U.S. we have something called family practices. I have a family doctor that I adore. If I need help beyond his care, he makes the calls that I do not have to sit in any emergency room to be seen.. I go directly to the specialist.
It doesn't have to be, but it's great to learn about how other countries manage theirs to get ideas on how to improve our system. This is generally how getting new ideas works.I do not know how Canada operates their healthcare. It is not my concern.
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