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Breaking news on AP wire: S.D. voters reject law banning almost all abortions.

w0oT! w0oT! :mrgreen: :2wave:

(just wanted to be the first to post it; this news just came down the wire, like, ten seconds ago).
 
Wow, this is great news. Seemingly our S. Dakota residence are understanding that it's not all black and white and that there is a grey area. Keep government out of the private choices of the individual or couples.
Hey 1069, you need a link to post in breaking news.
Here you go
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/ballot.measures/
 
Could you guys try to find an actual article to go with this? Otherwise, I'll need to move it.
 
Stace said:
Could you guys try to find an actual article to go with this? Otherwise, I'll need to move it.
You need an actual article article?
 
And good for us I might add, it probably would have passed had it not been for restrictions on rape and incest however...
 
RightOfCenter said:
And good for us I might add, it probably would have passed had it not been for restrictions on rape and incest however...

I agree and I think you will see it resubmiited to reflect those exceptions....
 
You guys on the right keep fighting these culture wars, and you are going to keep on losing. The Democrats had their best day ever in Kansas yesterday precisely because the Republicans were ought trying to court guys like NP (no offense NP ;)), and thus scared the hell out of everyone else.

If you guys on the right keep it up with the wedge issues and courting the religious right, you can guarantee yourselves another half century of being the minority party again.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
You guys on the right keep fighting these culture wars, and you are going to keep on losing. The Democrats had their best day ever in Kansas yesterday precisely because the Republicans were ought trying to court guys like NP (no offense NP ;)), and thus scared the hell out of everyone else.

If you guys on the right keep it up with the wedge issues and courting the religious right, you can guarantee yourselves another half century of being the minority party again.

Actually this thread is about banning abortion in South Dakota and it would have passed if not for the restriction on rape and incest..........
 
Navy Pride said:
Actually this thread is about banning abortion in South Dakota and it would have passed if not for the restriction on rape and incest..........

I don't think you get it NP. A lot of people who personally don't like Abortion, also don't want the government getting involved in it. People simply do not want the government in their private lives. For example, they may personally be against Same Sex Marriage, but they don't want a Federal Constitutional Amendment against it either. Most people think that abortion should be as Clinton put it, safe, legal, and rare. It is these culture wars that Republican's have ginned up that eked them out narrow majorities at the polls the last few elections, but it is these same culture wars that will be the decline of the Republican Party if they keep choosing to fight them. Do you honestly want your party to be a party that is boxed in to the fundamentalist south?

People naturally get a little more socially liberal as time goes on. Wedge issues loose their punch overtime, and eventually it is always the case , they end up being marginalized.

You need to worry about issues that actually matter in people's lives. For example, South Dakota is a plains state. Water is a big issue for many farmers and ranchers in plains states. Political capital expended by Republicans to enact abortion bans, that would inevitably be struck down by the Supreme Court, is polical capital that could have been used in helping ranchers and farmers with water rights and in finding middle ground conservation issues. While you guys go out and fight these culture wars, that in the end mean nothing to the real lives of real people, a Democrat can then come in and talk about the issues that do matter in those states, and win as a result. The fact is, if a farmer is worried about the aquifer that he depends on being depleted, then he probably is not going to give a damn about the abortion debate, flag burning, or gay marriage.
 
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1069 said:
Breaking news on AP wire: S.D. voters reject law banning almost all abortions.

w0oT! w0oT! :mrgreen: :2wave:

(just wanted to be the first to post it; this news just came down the wire, like, ten seconds ago).

It's so silly that some state candidates push insane issues like this. It just makes the republican party look fringe when stuff like this appears on the ballot.

Bush and most other republicans have no real intention of trying to overturn roe v wade. They know, just like most Americans, that abortion is a necessary evil to prevent children from growing up in horrible environments.

If you asked bush if he would like to ban abortion of course he is going to say yes just to please his base. But do you honestly think he would really push that issue?

I don't. Bush isn't nearly as crazy or mean as democrats give him credit for.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I don't think you get it NP. A lot of people who personally don't like Abortion, also don't want the government getting involved in it. People simply do not want the government in their private lives. For example, they may personally be against Same Sex Marriage, but they don't want a Federal Constitutional Amendment against it either. Most people think that abortion should be as Clinton put it, safe, legal, and rare. It is these culture wars that Republican's have ginned up that eked them out narrow majorities at the polls the last few elections, but it is these same culture wars that will be the decline of the Republican Party if they keep choosing to fight them. Do you honestly want your party to be a party that is boxed in to the fundamentalist south?

People naturally get a little more socially liberal as time goes on. Wedge issues loose their punch overtime, and eventually it is always the case , they end up being marginalized.

You need to worry about issues that actually matter in people's lives. For example, South Dakota is a plains state. Water is a big issue for many farmers and ranchers in plains states. Political capital expended by Republicans to enact abortion bans, that would inevitably be struck down by the Supreme Court, is polical capital that could have been used in helping ranchers and farmers with water rights and in finding middle ground conservation issues. While you guys go out and fight these culture wars, that in the end mean nothing to the real lives of real people, a Democrat can then come in and talk about the issues that do matter in those states, and win as a result. The fact is, if a farmer is worried about the aquifer that he depends on being depleted, then he probably is not going to give a damn about the abortion debate, flag burning, or gay marriage.

Its amazing how you liberals like government involved when it favors your position.............The government got involved in the abortion issue in 1972 thanks to liberals pushing Roe V Wade.........

We shall see about how abortion bans work out.......Their is a case in front of the SCOTUS today on the murderous act called Partial Birth Abortion and I predict it will be upheld 5-4 with Justice Kennedy submitting the deciding vote...........
 
Navy Pride said:
Actually this thread is about banning abortion in South Dakota and it would have passed if not for the restriction on rape and incest..........
YEs NP it is, and the only reason of the abortion ban was specifically what Southerndem has said. A wedge issue to rally the religious right - and it failed, your party failed miserably yesterday because the whole country was fed up with the partisan rhetoric do nothing congress.

Viva la revolution - I've regained some confidence in our democracy today.
 

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