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Russian Lawyer Charged With Obstruction of Justice

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She's a criminal lawyer, now. Saul would be proud.

* Russian lawyer who met with Trump campaign officials in 2016 charged with obstruction of justice in unrelated case
* The allegations, stemming from a money-laundering investigation, suggest Natalya Veselnitskaya had deep ties to senior Russian officials

Russian Lawyer Charged With Obstruction of Justice


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So...I wonder...

1. Since she was connected to Fusion GPS, does this mean they had any connection to Kremlin officials?

2. Since various Congressional figures and Obama administration officials were connected to her, does this mean they had any connection to Kremlin officials?

In any case, it's a good thing Trump Jr. and his buddies sent her packing.
 

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So...I wonder...

1. Since she was connected to Fusion GPS, does this mean they had any connection to Kremlin officials?

2. Since various Congressional figures and Obama administration officials were connected to her, does this mean they had any connection to Kremlin officials?

In any case, it's a good thing Trump Jr. and his buddies sent her packing.

There is no reason to conclude that the Trump Campaign "sent her packing." All we have to go on is Trump Jr.'s own word, which obviously is worth nothing.
 

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So...I wonder...

1. Since she was connected to Fusion GPS, does this mean they had any connection to Kremlin officials?

2. Since various Congressional figures and Obama administration officials were connected to her, does this mean they had any connection to Kremlin officials?

In any case, it's a good thing Trump Jr. and his buddies sent her packing.

Why are Trump officials not considered connected to her. She was the one Trumpy Jr said I look forward to it! Especially later in the summer. That seems to be a connection...Where is the Obama officials connections to her?
 

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There is no reason to conclude that the Trump Campaign "sent her packing." All we have to go on is Trump Jr.'s own word, which obviously is worth nothing.

Why are Trump officials not considered connected to her. She was the one Trumpy Jr said I look forward to it! Especially later in the summer. That seems to be a connection...Where is the Obama officials connections to her?

All of the evidence...statements from everyone involved, including her...and the lack of any evidence to the contrary...shows that nothing came of the meeting.

The Obama administration, the DOJ in particular, was instrumental in allowing her to enter the US even though the Obama State Department had denied her a visa. This was in January 2016. Later, at the time of the Trump meeting, she was again allowed into the US. She also met with Simpson (Fusion GPS) both immediately before and immediately after the Trump meeting. Simpson, as you should know, was tied to the Hillary Campaign and, through Steele and Nelly Ohr, to the Obama FBI/DOJ.

She also had extensive connections with various members of Congress, including Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA).

But hey...don't worry about any of that. The corrupt Obama administration pukes, as well as the corrupt Congress critters, who were involved in her mess as well as numerous other messes will skate...at least for now.
 

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"Implying" ... :lol:


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Dems must be really worried about Trump's speech tonight (grin) to have Mueller roll out another nothingburger for distraction ... :lamo
 

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All of the evidence...statements from everyone involved, including her...and the lack of any evidence to the contrary...shows that nothing came of the meeting.

So in other words, you have no reason to assume that Jr. "sent her packing" except the word of those who participated in the meeting. There is no reason to take their word until they are under oath and prosecutors have had the opportunity to evaluate the honesty of their testimony.

The Obama adm-

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Dems must be really worried about Trump's speech tonight (grin) to have Mueller roll out another nothingburger for distraction ... :lamo

This wasn’t Mueller. Please try to read the content before commenting.


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Y’all are still digging deep. Next is Trump did business with a guy 20 years ago and that guys cousin just got charged with unpaid parking tickets.



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All of the evidence...statements from everyone involved, including her...and the lack of any evidence to the contrary...shows that nothing came of the meeting.

The Obama administration, the DOJ in particular, was instrumental in allowing her to enter the US even though the Obama State Department had denied her a visa. This was in January 2016. Later, at the time of the Trump meeting, she was again allowed into the US. She also met with Simpson (Fusion GPS) both immediately before and immediately after the Trump meeting. Simpson, as you should know, was tied to the Hillary Campaign and, through Steele and Nelly Ohr, to the Obama FBI/DOJ.

She also had extensive connections with various members of Congress, including Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA).

But hey...don't worry about any of that. The corrupt Obama administration pukes, as well as the corrupt Congress critters, who were involved in her mess as well as numerous other messes will skate...at least for now.

Why can't you admit that Trump is just as involved in this? Just as much as the as of now unnamed Obama officials that you just made up. He's the one that met with them.
 

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Of course not ... he just passed it on ... :lamo
um, no, this stems from a case prior to the 2016 campaigns:




The federal government filed the case in 2013 in an effort to recover several million dollars worth of property, primarily comprised of New York real estate, which was allegedly obtained to launder a portion of the money swindled in the tax refund scheme.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/08/natalya-veselnitskaya-attorney-at-trump-tower-meeting-charged.html
 

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Aww why so much hate for Mr. Mueller?


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Because he holds the Manson, er, Trump family and associates accountable for their deception and crimes.

These people are children and just like children, they believe they are not responsible for their actions, and lash out at any authority figure that serves as a reality check that they are.
 

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um, no, this stems from a case prior to the 2016 campaigns:




The federal government filed the case in 2013 in an effort to recover several million dollars worth of property, primarily comprised of New York real estate, which was allegedly obtained to launder a portion of the money swindled in the tax refund scheme.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/08/natalya-veselnitskaya-attorney-at-trump-tower-meeting-charged.html


Sure; it was so "important" that nothing happened for 5 years until now when they can squeeze her in connection with the Trump meeting.

They did the same with Manafort. He was on the FBI radar for almost 10 years for money laundering but nothing happened until he became associated with Trump.

What a load of BS ... and you know it. (grin)
 

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Sure; it was so "important" that nothing happened for 5 years until now when they can squeeze her in connection with the Trump meeting.

They did the same with Manafort. He was on the FBI radar for almost 10 years for money laundering but nothing happened until he became associated with Trump.

What a load of BS ... and you know it. (grin)


Just found someone who is more or less on the same line of reasoning in this case as I am (funny thing ... we both used the term "squeeze"):

"... Dershowitz, a Harvard Law professor emeritus, explained that it's rare for a U.S. Attorney's Office to bring an indictment based on a misleading affidavit submitted in a civil case. He said the indictment raises questions about "selective prosecution," but the case itself "seems solid."

"They may now have her in a position where they can squeeze her, get her to sing and testify regarding the meeting. That puts the pressure on her," he said.

"The evidentiary basis for the case seems strong, but the question is: is this a case that would have been brought had she not been a Russian who attended the meeting at Trump Tower?"


https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/01...le-squeeze-russian-lawyer-trump-tower-meeting
 

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So in other words, you have no reason to assume that Jr. "sent her packing" except the word of those who participated in the meeting. There is no reason to take their word until they are under oath and prosecutors have had the opportunity to evaluate the honesty of their testimony.



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You see...that's the thing. Nobody wants to talk to her about it. Not Mueller...not Congress. Could it be they know there is no there there?

And that wasn't a rant. It was an answer to the other member's question.
 

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So...I wonder...

1. Since she was connected to Fusion GPS, does this mean they had any connection to Kremlin officials?
she certainly did and Simpson was working with her to repeal the Magnitsky Act.
 

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Don Jr needs to be indicted, that asshole openly sought Russian help....He was more than ready to collude
 

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Why can't you admit that Trump is just as involved in this? Just as much as the as of now unnamed Obama officials that you just made up. He's the one that met with them.

Well, in fact, Trump Jr. was at the meeting. But, as I said, they sent her packing in short order. That's the extent of his involvement.

Why don't you want to admit that Congress and the Obama administration had MUCH more involvement with the lady than anyone from the Trump campaign did?
 
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