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Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov Says Slaughter in Bucha Is a ‘Fake Attack’

Laughing my [posterior] off, as you young people say.

No one (no one!) has any respect for what Mr. L. says.

If he tells you today is Monday, check the answer with someone else!
 
People have been putting bodies in ditches since the start of the war. That's been shown on the news plenty of times before this.
Did all those people have their hands tied behind their backs?

Keep defending war crimes, dude. Gotta make those rubles.

You gotta tie your own hands before your back before you throw your body in a ditch. It's basic etiquette.

I'm worried it's a game called Fake News.

btw, sanman.... going to bat for Russian war crimes with claims of "fake news" is an ugly look. Uglier than usual.



Otherwise why would UK be blocking the meeting?

Do you really expect to divine a foreign country's entire geopolitical strategy? You shouldn't expect to understand all of your own country's strategy. Information is tightly controlled...
 
That would be incredibly difficult, since Russian ships control that part of the Black Sea, and Russia built a bridge from Crimea to Russia large enough to support the rapid movement of tanks and heavy artillary. :(
There seems to some disagreement as to what that bridge will stand up to:

 
The Russians are denying they carried out any massacres in Bucha, and claiming this is a fabrication



The Russians have called an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to take up the issue of the Bucha allegations -- but strangely, the UK which currently chairs the UN Security Council, is refusing to convene a session to discuss it.

Why is the UK blocking a UNSC meeting on Bucha? What kind of game is Britain playing? I'm worried it's a game called Fake News. Otherwise why would UK be blocking the meeting?
Because Russia pulled one a few weeks ago to claim there were bioweapons labs in Ukraine, but offered no proof. It ended up being a big waste of time. If you should find this New York press conference Lavrov is promising, please link it for us. I would like to see their proof that this is all a false flag.
 
There seems to some disagreement as to what that bridge will stand up to:

And if Ukraine had Mig 29s with serious bombs, there would be even more doubt. Less talk, more weapons Sleepy Joe!
 
There seems to some disagreement as to what that bridge will stand up to:

Blowing up bridges happens a lot in war
 
The Russians are denying they carried out any massacres in Bucha, and claiming this is a fabrication



The Russians have called an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to take up the issue of the Bucha allegations -- but strangely, the UK which currently chairs the UN Security Council, is refusing to convene a session to discuss it.

Why is the UK blocking a UNSC meeting on Bucha? What kind of game is Britain playing? I'm worried it's a game called Fake News. Otherwise why would UK be blocking the meeting?
Three weeks. The bodies were lying in the streets for three weeks.

 
Now Apple's gonna have to add a warning label on their Macbooks.

Warning! Macbooks are not made to be used as bulletproof vests.
And yet Teddy Roosevelt was saved by a folded up speech in Milwaukee wi when someone tried to kill him…
 
I will withhold judgement until a 3rd party investigation is carried out. Bucha was recaptured on the 31st. Yet we only hear of this massacre on the 3rd. Why? My conclusion is that this narrative was made up. It is entirely possible there were killings, also bodies from the crossfire as this was previously the front line and was subjected to heavy artillery and grad fire from the Ukrainian side, as well as the bodies of pro-Russian collaborators with white armbands that were shot. That's why it took so long for this news to come out, Ukraine was trying to form a narrative from this to aid their PR war and gain more material support, and they succeeded.

On a side note, Ukrainian media reported that specialist units and SBU had begun clearing the area of "saboteurs and accomplices of Russian troops" on April 2nd.

Bucha mayor announced the recapture on the 31st, but no mention of the "massacre".
twitter.com/IrinaGalushkoRT/status/1510696984579133446

Furthermore, we have yet to see first-hand evidence of this from eyewitnesses, just like in the supposed Mariupol "theater bombing".

There are also pictures from Bucha that show dead bodies with white armbands. Those are to signify pro-Russia locals, and yet they turn up dead?

There's also a video titled "The work of the Bossman boys in Bucha" where in the opening seconds, one of the territorial defence guys says,


– There are guys without blue armbands, can I shoot at them?
– Sure, f**k!

If you do not try to refute my argument in good faith, then I will not respond.

At least you do us the favor of listing your true allegiance under your name, so that we can discount your posts equally with those of "she". Johnny Cash told us that naming a boy Sue guaranteed a mean SOB. Same for She.
 
For those trying to fathom the savagery of Russia's attack of Ukraine, an old Russian fable might be helpful: Ivan and Igor were both peasants and neighbors. Ivan was a little more prosperous, and had a mule. Igor did not. Igor was talking to God one night, bewailing his misfortune of not having a mule. God asked "What would you like for me to do for you?" Igor answered "Kill Ivan's mule!"
 
Bucha was recaptured on the 31st. Yet we only hear of this massacre on the 3rd. Why?
Here is a tweet showing footage from Bucha April 1st. I'm not sure what you are talking about. There were plenty of videos coming out.
 
Bucha was recaptured on the 31st. Yet we only hear of this massacre on the 3rd. Why?
Actually it is even less true the more I look. Just going to twitter, searching 'Bucha' and filtering by dates shows reports that align with the later military footage.


 
Every heard the word "Timing" ?

WTF does that even mean? Don't be cryptic, just spit it out directly, and say what you mean.

If Russia has called for a UN Security Council meeting to discuss Bucha, then hold one and don't block it from happening. Otherwise, it looks like the Bucha allegations are some kind of stunt that some don't want to see investigated, so that we can all learn the truth.
 
The Russians are denying they carried out any massacres in Bucha, and claiming this is a fabrication



The Russians have called an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to take up the issue of the Bucha allegations -- but strangely, the UK which currently chairs the UN Security Council, is refusing to convene a session to discuss it.

Why is the UK blocking a UNSC meeting on Bucha? What kind of game is Britain playing? I'm worried it's a game called Fake News. Otherwise why would UK be blocking the meeting?
Sigh. You could always check yourself before you post.

"Britain's mission to the United Nations, which holds the presidency of the 15-member council for April, had said the Council would hold a scheduled discussion on Ukraine on Tuesday, and not meet on Monday as requested by Russia."


The "fake news" is Russia pretending to want a transparent investigation into Bucha. You should be in less of a rush to believe what Putin tells you.
 
Why did Russia block the UN Security action regarding Ukraine?
Russia was and is the aggressor in this war.

Russia is not hiding the fact that it's invaded Ukraine -- that's kind of hard not to notice.
But Britain is blocking the UN Security Council from discussing Bucha. Is Britain even a party to this war? Does it have a border? Does it have territory there? I can remember times when Britain has blocked the UNSC from discussing Northern Ireland. As much as I disagreed, I'm aware that their territory and boundaries were involved there.
 
Sigh. You could always check yourself before you post.

"Britain's mission to the United Nations, which holds the presidency of the 15-member council for April, had said the Council would hold a scheduled discussion on Ukraine on Tuesday, and not meet on Monday as requested by Russia."


The "fake news" is Russia pretending to want a transparent investigation into Bucha. You should be in less of a rush to believe what Putin tells you.

The UN SC has investigated various issues before, and can do so again. There's nothing wrong with them discussing the issue.
 
War crimes should certainly be investigated. The United Nations can certainly form an investigation committee for this.

Why is Britain blocking the UN Security Council from convening to discuss what's happened in Bucha?
They aren't. #FactCheck
 
They aren't. #FactCheck
Please don't use phrases like that. That hashtag is about as credible as "Ministry of Truth"
The Left have coined that phrase for crooked reasons, originally for use in a US domestic political context. It will always be an infamously crooked & Orwellian phrase, after the Left having abused it so.
 
WTF does that even mean? Don't be cryptic, just spit it out directly, and say what you mean.

If Russia has called for a UN Security Council meeting to discuss Bucha, then hold one and don't block it from happening. Otherwise, it looks like the Bucha allegations are some kind of stunt that some don't want to see investigated, so that we can all learn the truth.
They're meeting tomorrow. What's so all fired important that it couldn't wait 24 hours? It's not being 'blocked.' Lavrov can spew all he wants. And where's that press conference?
 
The UN SC has investigated various issues before, and can do so again. There's nothing wrong with them discussing the issue.
They're discussing it tomorrow. As scheduled. Read.
 
Please don't use phrases like that. That hashtag is about as credible as "Ministry of Truth"
The Left have coined that phrase for crooked reasons, originally for use in a US domestic political context. It will always be an infamously crooked & Orwellian phrase, after the Left having abused it so.
So if it isn't true, let's hear the real evidence you have to refute those facts.
 
Please don't use phrases like that. That hashtag is about as credible as "Ministry of Truth"
The Left have coined that phrase for crooked reasons, originally for use in a US domestic political context. It will always be an infamously crooked & Orwellian phrase, after the Left having abused it so.
Call it whatever you want. Your blind hatred for what you consider to be "The Left" does not change the definition of the term "fact check". As in compare what you see, read, hear, or "believe" to demonstrable facts.

Britain did not block a meeting about Bucha. It simply didn't change the entire Security Council's schedule because Russia disingenuously snapped its fingers. Please stop spreading lies.
 
They're meeting tomorrow. What's so all fired important that it couldn't wait 24 hours? It's not being 'blocked.' Lavrov can spew all he wants. And where's that press conference?
sanman has been called out for intentionally spreading mistruths that were disproven with about five keystrokes and now refuses to accept responsibility. Different day same story.
 
Russia is not hiding the fact that it's invaded Ukraine -- that's kind of hard not to notice.
But Britain is blocking the UN Security Council from discussing Bucha. Is Britain even a party to this war? Does it have a border? Does it have territory there? I can remember times when Britain has blocked the UNSC from discussing Northern Ireland. As much as I disagreed, I'm aware that their territory and boundaries were involved there.
Great Britain is not "blocking the UN Security Council from discussing Bucha. As noted in the Reuter's article, Russia was asking for a special meeting on Monday, and the UK pointed out that there is a scheduled meeting of the Security Council on Tuesday to discuss Ukraine. Nothing was 'blocked'. It's likely that at least some of the participants were traveling or otherwise unavailable on Monday anyway.

Great Britain is chairing the council for April (it rotates), so they are handling the scheduling for this month. Again, all they did was decline to schedule a special meeting the day before one was scheduled.
 
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