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Russian forces in Syria fired on Israeli military aircraft: newspaper

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The Israeli Air Force is as good as any, they can take care of themselves.
 

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Simpleχity;1065793875 said:
Russian forces in Syria fired on Israeli military aircraft: newspaper

Netanyahu, Putin met amid reports of aerial incidents over Syria

The incidents reportedly occurred off the Mediterranean coast of Syria last week.

Netanyahu brought his IAF honcho along with him to Moscow to formulate a protocol "to avoid mishaps, misunderstandings and unnecessary confrontations."

Memo to Bibi ... Putin is notorious for breaking agreements.

I don't believe the IAF has any right to be in Syrian airspace. Neither does the USA, Turkey, nor any other uninvited by the legitimate Syrian government. The UN should sanction Israel for this event. Has the UN ever sanctioned Israel in the Past?
 

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Simpleχity;1065793875 said:
Russian forces in Syria fired on Israeli military aircraft: newspaper

Netanyahu, Putin met amid reports of aerial incidents over Syria

The incidents reportedly occurred off the Mediterranean coast of Syria last week.

Netanyahu brought his IAF honcho along with him to Moscow to formulate a protocol "to avoid mishaps, misunderstandings and unnecessary confrontations."

Memo to Bibi ... Putin is notorious for breaking agreements.

"Agreements"... don't make us laugh.

If Israel is going to continue operations in and dealing with Syria, expect Russia to bully Israel as they do plenty of others. The bottom line here is Israel is going to continue operations in Syria because of suspected ties to Hezbollah, and Syria with Russia helping is going to respond to Israel's actions inside or near their interests.

It is going to be near impossible for Israel, Syria, and Russia to agree to some "protocol" to avoid future incidents.

Appealing to the UN here is going to be entirely worthless, Russia and Israel both have faced UN scorn that resulted in little to nothing but rhetoric from that useless organization.

You say Russia will break agreements, and you are probably right. But quit painting some picture of nobility and peace out of Israel, these days as the entire greater Middle East region is ripe with distrust and Israel is no exception no matter what the US government says to the contrary.
 

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Simpleχity;1065794142 said:
Indeed. It seems a Geneva brokered ceasefire agreement had a shelf life of two months. Putin and Assad are massing assets to attack Syria's largest city.

Russian artillery deployed for Aleppo offensive as Syria talks falter

The fact that you are willing to cut out so much of my post as to misrepresent the intention of it speaks volumes about you. And it suggests dishonesty in discourse most of all.
 

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The fact that you are willing to cut out so much of my post as to misrepresent the intention of it speaks volumes about you. And it suggests dishonesty in discourse most of all.
I'll discuss anything...

If Israel is going to continue operations in and dealing with Syria, expect Russia to bully Israel as they do plenty of others. The bottom line here is Israel is going to continue operations in Syria because of suspected ties to Hezbollah, and Syria with Russia helping is going to respond to Israel's actions inside or near their interests.
When Moscow entered the Syrian fray as a combatant power, certain Israeli realities changed. Russian attack aircraft and sea-launched cruise missiles were now saturating the Syrian battle-space. Just as worrisome, Israeli air-bases are being monitored by Russian land/sea based defensive (anti-air) assets. With Turkey/Erdogan as an object example of Russian retribution, Tel Aviv must carefully calibrate its hot zone management.

It is going to be near impossible for Israel, Syria, and Russia to agree to some "protocol" to avoid future incidents.
It's tactically possible, but strategically unlikely. Too many players here with competing/oppositional interests. Iran and Hezbollah are also equation components.

Appealing to the UN here is going to be entirely worthless, Russia and Israel both have faced UN scorn that resulted in little to nothing but rhetoric from that useless organization.
Geneva (Syria) and Minsk (Ukraine) are examples of the UN's extant impotence and inadequacies.

But quit painting some picture of nobility and peace out of Israel, these days as the entire greater Middle East region is ripe with distrust and Israel is no exception no matter what the US government says to the contrary.
Israel is hardly squeaky clean. She does what she must do to survive in a very rough neighborhood. This is the third time that Mr. Netanyahu has traveled to Moscow within six months. I believe he discussed two (Israeli) critical items with Putin. 1) As much as is possible, strive to formulate a protocol to avoid air mishaps. 2) Assad has grown bolder with Russian military assistance and had stated his intention to retake all of Syria ... including the Golan Heights. Netanyahu made it very clear to Putin that Golan is an Israeli red-line and Israel will actively defend this interest.
 

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Simpleχity;1065796061 said:
I'll discuss anything...


When Moscow entered the Syrian fray as a combatant power, certain Israeli realities changed. Russian attack aircraft and sea-launched cruise missiles were now saturating the Syrian battle-space. Just as worrisome, Israeli air-bases are being monitored by Russian land/sea based defensive (anti-air) assets. With Turkey/Erdogan as an object example of Russian retribution, Tel Aviv must carefully calibrate its hot zone management.


It's tactically possible, but strategically unlikely. Too many players here with competing/oppositional interests. Iran and Hezbollah are also equation components.


Geneva (Syria) and Minsk (Ukraine) are examples of the UN's extant impotence and inadequacies.


Israel is hardly squeaky clean. She does what she must do to survive in a very rough neighborhood. This is the third time that Mr. Netanyahu has traveled to Moscow within six months. I believe he discussed two (Israeli) critical items with Putin. 1) As much as is possible, strive to formulate a protocol to avoid air mishaps. 2) Assad has grown bolder with Russian military assistance and had stated his intention to retake all of Syria ... including the Golan Heights. Netanyahu made it very clear to Putin that Golan is an Israeli red-line and Israel will actively defend this interest.

The Israelis blew the hell out of a US Navy ship without much in the way of consuquences, so I highly doubt their too scared of Assad, whose heavily reliant on Russian aid to stay in power.
 

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The Israelis blew the hell out of a US Navy ship without much in the way of consuquences, so I highly doubt their too scared of Assad, whose heavily reliant on Russian aid to stay in power.

You recall the crap hit the fan when Turkey shot down a Russian fighter?
 
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