Russia trains for large-scale war

[Dutch]

I see you're still hijacking threads with 'whataboutism' to get the spotlight off of Russia.

Merely responding to one of my fellow debate politics......guy.

If you would like perhaps you could make a "point" about just anything at all and I'll respond to you too.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Merely responding to one of my fellow debate politics......guy.

If you would like perhaps you could make a "point" about just anything at all and I'll respond to you too.

This is my thread bub. Where you're at here has nothing to do with the OP.

 

[Dutch]

Many people in Hong Kong want the British back.

The Brits civil law and civil society of freedom and liberty beats hands down the CCP Dictator-Tyrants of Beijing. Hong Kong's education system now teaches one party rule is the wisdom of the Chinese ancients into the present and, of course, the future. For everyone in the world.

Not.

Hong Kong democracy activists demand return to British governance.

I vividly remember all those leaders of Hong Kong looking forward to their "reunification" with the communist mainland when the British withdrew. I suppose it was a matter of patriotism. Mebbe' they should have been less naive than they were.




I'm also old enough to remember when Democratic Senator Teddy Kennedy, the lion of the senate, offered to help the Soviets undercut President Reagan for their help in becoming president.

The truth of the matter is after two years and what amounts to a coup attempt by members of the FBI there was no collusion between the russians and trump. It just doesn't exist.


Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit

....Kennedy's message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. "The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations," the memorandum stated. "These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign."

Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

First he offered to visit Moscow. "The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA." Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. "A direct appeal ... to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. ... If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. ... The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side."

Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time--and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism.....

This is my thread bub. Where you're at here has nothing to do with the OP.

I can't help but notice you overlooked an awful lot of folks who posted things that "has nothing to do with the OP." Why is that?

 

[Jredbaron96]

You can be "doubtful" of anything you want. I'm a conservative, not a white leftist. You are free to your own beliefs.

You're a lot of things, but my mother told me if I didn't have anything nice to say about someone, I shouldn't say anything at all.

Having said all that being a white leftist,

I'm also California Born, Texas raised US Army soldier. You got any other labels you wanna shower on me?

an assumption on my part feel free to correct me if you want, I understand you are predisposed to favor the lower figures.

You're right, I'm predisposed to believe that Russian women aren't incredible enough to produce 141 million babies within 30 years because that strikes me as unbelievable. Color me crazy.

I gotta ask, is forgoing basic mathematics part of the conservative agenda these days?

The nazis were/must be the ultimate baddies and everyone's a nazi but you and yours. It's part and parcel of your belief system.

You have no idea what I believe do you? Of course not, you saw liberal and thought you had it all figured out.

You know I'm descended from Nazis right? I'm half German. Blonde hair, blue eyes, tall, and half of my mother's side was either Wehrmacht or SS. I know how bad the Nazis were because I was told it verbatim from people who were actually there.

I get that.

I don't think you actually get anything, especially math.

As far as I'm concerned whatever version of socialism/communism you prefer you and yours are little different from the national socialists. You're all just variations of a theme.....collectivists.

Believing that the Nazis and Socialists/Communists are the same thing is all the evidence I need to prove you have no idea in the slightest what the **** you are talking about.

Yeah, they were so alike they fought a huge war over their differences and tried to kill each other.

 

[Dutch]

You're a lot of things, but my mother told me if I didn't have anything nice to say about someone, I shouldn't say anything at all.

I'm also California Born, Texas raised US Army soldier. You got any other labels you wanna shower on me?

I’m southern. You can’t swing a dead cat around here without hitting a veteran. That includes......me.

You're right, I'm predisposed to believe that Russian women aren't incredible enough to produce 141 million babies within 30 years because that strikes me as unbelievable. Color me crazy.

You’re entitled to your own opinion. I also reserve the right to mine.

I gotta ask, is forgoing basic mathematics part of the conservative agenda these days?

No, but we believe we have a right to our own opinions.

You have no idea what I believe do you? Of course not, you saw liberal and thought you had it all figured out.

I’ve got a pretty good idea.

You know I'm descended from Nazis right? I'm half German. Blonde hair, blue eyes, tall, and half of my mother's side was either Wehrmacht or SS. I know how bad the Nazis were because I was told it verbatim from people who were actually there.

Nope. Did not know that, nor do I particularly care.

I don't think you actually get anything, especially math.

Yet another “opinion of yours I do not share.

Believing that the Nazis and Socialists/Communists are the same thing is all the evidence I need to prove you have no idea in the slightest what the **** you are talking about.

In the 1930’s national socialism was conceived as a “third way” between classical liberalism (in no way related to correct American liberalism) and communism. Virtually all the fascists were former socialists includng Mussolini. Stalin was a big fan of him.

So, yes many of us understand the connection between national socialism and socialism/communism isn’t so tenuous.

Yeah, they were so alike they fought a huge war over their differences and tried to kill each other.

That would be after they were allies. You do know Poland was invaded by both the Germans and the Russians, right?

 

[Jredbaron96]

You’re entitled to your own opinion. I also reserve the right to mine.

No, but we believe we have a right to our own opinions.

So in other words, you have no actual evidence or answer to refute the evidence, you're just gonna keep saying "It's my opinion."

What a waste of time. You can't even debate properly.

In the 1930’s national socialism was conceived as a “third way” between classical liberalism (in no way related to correct American liberalism) and communism. Virtually all the fascists were former socialists includng Mussolini. Stalin was a big fan of him.

Fascism is the third way. National Socialism is nothing but a contradiction in terms, given that socialism is inherently a globalist ideology and nationalism itself runs counter to communist ideology.

Nazism explicitly rejected Marxian Socialism and the abolition of private property. Privatization in fact came from Nazi Germany, and Hitler's views of "socialism" were inspired by conservative Prussian philosophers, not Marx and Lenin.

Claiming that Nazisms is socialism is basically admitting that you don't know what you're talking about.

That would be after they were allies. You do know Poland was invaded by both the Germans and the Russians, right?

I know the MRP was an act of convenience by Stalin who realized that his Red Army was is no way prepared to handle the threat of a German invasion and occupation of Poland offered him a buffer space against a conflict with Germany.

Germany and the USSR were allies, allies that never stopped plotting on how to kill each other.

 

[Dutch]

So in other words, you have no actual evidence or answer to refute the evidence, you're just gonna keep saying "It's my opinion."

Yes, my opinion is Rummel is a better scholar than Wheatcroft.

What a waste of time. You can't even debate properly.

Ad hominem is not "debating properly."

Fascism is the third way. National Socialism is nothing but a contradiction in terms, given that socialism is inherently a globalist ideology and nationalism itself runs counter to communist ideology.

Nazism explicitly rejected Marxian Socialism and the abolition of private property. Privatization in fact came from Nazi Germany, and Hitler's views of "socialism" were inspired by conservative Prussian philosophers, not Marx and Lenin.

Claiming that Nazisms is socialism is basically admitting that you don't know what you're talking about.

They're both collectivist concepts that rely on a strong, powerful, intrusive central governments with little to no civil liberties for it's subjects.

I know the MRP was an act of convenience by Stalin who realized that his Red Army was is no way prepared to handle the threat of a German invasion and occupation of Poland offered him a buffer space against a conflict with Germany.

The Poles considered it a stab in the back. I'm inclined to side with the Poles on this one as the region was annexed by Stalin.

Germany and the USSR were allies, allies that never stopped plotting on how to kill each other.

They were our allies as well. At one point we had each other targeted with thousands of nuclear missiles.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Yes, my opinion is Rummel is a better scholar than Wheatcroft.

Because he agrees with you. That's why you can't even refute basic arithmetic.

Ad hominem is not "debating properly."

You're right, you're not debating properly at all. Actual debates involve facts and stuff, not just you saying "Nuh uh"

They're both collectivist concepts that rely on a strong, powerful, intrusive central government with little to no civil liberties for it's subjects.

Man sure is easy when you can have such a black and white view of history and politics.

Apparently the Germans didn't mind it so much since they were willing to fight and die in the millions to preserve it.

The Poles considered it a stab in the back. I'm inclined to side with the Poles on this one as the region was annexed by the Stalin.

Of course it was. There was also nothing that could have realistically been done.

They were our allies as well. At one point we had each other targeted with thousands of nuclear missiles.

They stopped being our allies the moment the war ended.

 

[Dutch]

Because he agrees with you. That's why you can't even refute basic arithmetic.

Nope, I agree with him.

You're right, you're not debating properly at all. Actual debates involve facts and stuff, not just you saying "Nuh uh"

Saaay, how old are you again?

Man sure is easy when you can have such a black and white view of history and politics.

If you say so.

Apparently the Germans didn't mind it so much since they were willing to fight and die in the millions to preserve it.

Soldiers don't fight and die for politics. They fight for the guy next to them. As a soldier you should know that.

Of course it was. There was also nothing that could have realistically been done.

We agree.

They stopped being our allies the moment the war ended.

They stopped being our "allies" long before the war ended.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Nope, I agree with him.

And the fact that you can't even mount a simple rebuttal to the facts laid before you tells me all I need to know.

You can't actually debate this because you don't actually have any counters or facts yourself to back you up.

Saaay, how old are you again?

Don't worry, I promise not to exploit for the purposes of this debate your old age and lack of knowledge on the subject.

Soldiers don't fight and die for politics. They fight for the guy next to them. As a soldier you should know that.

Unpopular governments don't fight tooth and nail until their country is bombed out and ruined beyond recognition. No amount of "comradery" compels one to carry out acts of mass atrocity and violence.

Nazi Germany would not have done the things they did without a populace motivated out of racial ideology. You can say soldiers don't fight for "politics", but they sure as hell are willing to fight for what they believe in. If they didn't we wouldn't have soldiers at all.

And that's the fact. The Germans were filling to fight and die in great numbers because they were convinced they were fighting to protect the world from Jewish-Bolshevism. It's ridiculous, of course, but that doesn't meant they didn't believe it.

They stopped being our "allies" long before the war ended.

Debatable.

 

[Dutch]

And the fact that you can't even mount a simple rebuttal to the facts laid before you tells me all I need to know.

You can't actually debate this because you don't actually have any counters or facts yourself to back you up.

I don't see the point. I'm fine with RJ Rummels research.

Don't worry, I promise not to exploit for the purposes of this debate your old age and lack of knowledge on the subject.

....and I promise not to take advantage of your youth and inexperience.

Unpopular governments don't fight tooth and nail until their country is bombed out and ruined beyond recognition. No amount of "comradery" compels one to carry out acts of mass atrocity and violence.

No offence but you don't sound like a soldier. You write like you are very young.

Nazi Germany would not have done the things they did without a populace motivated out of racial ideology. You can say soldiers don't fight for "politics", but they sure as hell are willing to fight for what they believe in. If they didn't we wouldn't have soldiers at all.

And that's the fact. The Germans were filling to fight and die in great numbers because they were convinced they were fighting to protect the world from Jewish-Bolshevism. It's ridiculous, of course, but that doesn't meant they didn't believe it.

People are just not that simple.

Debatable.

Hardly, FDR was duped by Stalin. It's really that simple.

BOOK REVIEW: 'His Final Battle: The Last Months of Franklin Roosevelt' - Washington Times

...FDR’s assumption was that he alone could build that alliance of global policemen out of the imminently victorious major anti-Fascist powers — the United States first among equals, but including by necessity the Soviet Union, by affinity the United Kingdom, and by default the Chinese regime of Chiang Kai-shek. France was relegated to the children’s table of nations for its capitulation.

Despite Churchill’s misgivings, Stalin clearly was the linchpin in Roosevelt’s architecture. The Russians had endured horrendous losses but had made an Allied victory over Hitler not only possible but inevitable. Part of the overweening self-assurance that was in the Roosevelt genetic code convinced him he alone could convert the devious Josef Stalin to his cause.

But FDR needed time which he did not have. And in his haste, this book makes clear, he made mistakes, chiefly by playing it too close to his vest and isolating aides who could have helped. The most glaring of these errors was his selection of Harry Truman as vice president in 1944 and then keeping him completely ignorant of his objectives....

 

[Jredbaron96]

I don't see the point. I'm fine with RJ Rummels research.

So in other words you're just going to ignore the inconsistency in his research because you want to.

I don't think you understand how debating works.

offence but you don't sound like a soldier. You write like you are very young.

I guess I'm just wearing this uniform because I like the way it feels then huh.

I am young, yes, and its sad that I have to teach an older and supposedly wiser man about how you debate topics.

People are just not that simple.

What on earth does that have to do with what I said? People aren't that simple? What does that have to do with what German soldiers were fighting for?

If you wanna try to play the part of the wise old man I suggest you actually learn something worth teaching rather than just regurgitating the same nonsense.

Hardly, FDR was duped by .

I'm sure that's all very fascinating but it had jack **** to do with what I said.

 

[Tangmo]

Many people in Hong Kong want the British back.

The Brits civil law and civil society of freedom and liberty beats hands down the CCP Dictator-Tyrants of Beijing. Hong Kong's education system now teaches one party rule is the wisdom of the Chinese ancients into the present and, of course, the future. For everyone in the world.

Not.

Hong Kong democracy activists demand return to British governance.

I vividly remember all those leaders of Hong Kong looking forward to their "reunification" with the communist mainland when the British withdrew. I suppose it was a matter of patriotism. Mebbe' they should have been less naive than they were.




I'm also old enough to remember when Democratic Senator Teddy Kennedy, the lion of the senate, offered to help the Soviets undercut President Reagan for their help in becoming president.

The truth of the matter is after two years and what amounts to a coup attempt by members of the FBI there was no collusion between the russians and trump. It just doesn't exist.


Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit

....Kennedy's message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. "The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations," the memorandum stated. "These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign."

Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

First he offered to visit Moscow. "The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA." Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. "A direct appeal ... to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. ... If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. ... The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side."

Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time--and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism.....

There is nothing honest in the Lee Atwater School of Lies by its extinguished graduates who are Republican Conservative Rightwing Bottomfeeders.

While you're old enough to be an Atwater School grad I'm old enough to remember the reality, the facts, the actuality of the time and the players. The main player is Atwater not Kennedy. Each of 'em are deceased so that's the bad news because of course neither of 'em can speak nor can their principal associates of the time speak. Yet the good news is that Atwater is buried too so what's certain is that Atwater is gone forever.

The Atwater Conservative Legacy lives on however and Trump is the inheritor along with His Fanboyz. Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, Alex Jones; the Fanboys. Reagan's arms negotiators and Russia specialists of the time and since have said there was nothing to the nonsense. The Reagan Library has said they never heard of any such thing and their search came up snake eyes. Soviet archives do not have any letter from Kennedy or anyone else acting in Ted Kennedy's name. So next you'll be digging up Uranium One again along with Obama's birth certificate etc etc.

It's bottomfeeder trash and nothing but. Par for the rightwingnut course.

 

[Tangmo]

....and I promise not to take advantage of your youth and inexperience.





No offence but you don't sound like a soldier. You write like you are very young.

This is a failure trap of culture and intellect that is common among rightwing veterans, retired career nco lifers especially and in particular. The ones who present their far right views publicly for the purpose of exploiting their personal military history against civilian society. It is the attempt to legitimize their right wing politics and authoritarian ex cathedra views and culture. The statements are both arbitrary and summary conclusions and pronouncements that always fall down completely when they are issued. No exception.

 

[Dutch]

There is nothing honest in the Lee Atwater School of Lies by its extinguished graduates who are Republican Conservative Rightwing Bottomfeeders.

While you're old enough to be an Atwater School grad I'm old enough to remember the reality, the facts, the actuality of the time and the players. The main player is Atwater not Kennedy. Each of 'em are deceased so that's the bad news because of course neither of 'em can speak nor can their principal associates of the time speak. Yet the good news is that Atwater is buried too so what's certain is that Atwater is gone forever.

The Atwater Conservative Legacy lives on however and Trump is the inheritor along with His Fanboyz. Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, Alex Jones; the Fanboys. Reagan's arms negotiators and Russia specialists of the time and since have said there was nothing to the nonsense. The Reagan Library has said they never heard of any such thing and their search came up snake eyes. Soviet archives do not have any letter from Kennedy or anyone else acting in Ted Kennedy's name. So next you'll be digging up Uranium One again along with Obama's birth certificate etc etc.

It's bottomfeeder trash and nothing but. Par for the rightwingnut course.

I have provided an article from a mainstream source that says.......yes. Yes, the letter exists. Yes, Ted Kennedy wrote it.

You have provided a written form of a tantrum. With nothing to support your multiple contentions.

What’s more, you used the term bottomfeeder........twice. That seems kinda’ excessive.

When you manage to compose yourself come on back and we can play s’more.

 

[Dutch]

This is a failure trap of culture and intellect that is common among rightwing veterans, retired career nco lifers especially and in particular. The ones who present their far right views publicly for the purpose of exploiting their personal military history against civilian society. It is the attempt to legitimize their right wing politics and authoritarian ex cathedra views and culture. The statements are both arbitrary and summary conclusions and pronouncements that always fall down completely when they are issued. No exception.

Wrong on so many accounts. Where to begin? A single enlistment. Apparently I have issues with authority figures I don’t respect. It’s a common enough characteristic of my sub culture.

Right wing politics? No. At least not in the way you are designating it. I’m a classical liberal. I’m culturally traditional. I’m the product of a long line of a very flawed people. I’m poor white southern trash. I’d take the worst one of us over a guy like you any day of the week.

I live in hard-scrabbled dirt poor region of the country that’s been blasted by tornados, droughts, floods, occupied by federal troops and used by one corporation after another for fun and profit for the last 100 years.

You wouldn’t last six weeks here. I have one class of 7th grade girls that’d take you down in a matter of minutes. Even the chickens here are tough.

I will, from time to time, debate you. However, So far you’re just making self aggrandizing statements with no substance, no support, and worst of all.......neither you or your ideas are even interesting.

 

[Tangmo]

I have provided an article from a mainstream source that says.......yes. Yes, the letter exists. Yes, Ted Kennedy wrote it.

You have provided a written form of a tantrum. With nothing to support your multiple contentions.

What’s more, you used the term bottomfeeder........twice. That seems kinda’ excessive.

When you manage to compose yourself come on back and we can play s’more.

You guys over there would need to produce a letter and the letter would have to say what you fantasize it to say. All you have is a memo from a KGB agent on file in Soviet archives. There are many of those, a number of which are works of fiction when it comes to Western political figures and leaders.

So kindly get back to us when you're a player but not playing for the KGB Team. Because relying on Rush Linbaugh doesn't cut it. Both the Senate Historian Office and the Reagan Library found nothing of Limbaugh's letter game.

Reagan disarmament negotiator Max Kampelman said he gained valuable information from Kennedy that he welcomed because the Soviets liked working with Kennedy as a back-door conduit of information. Kampelman wrote in his memoirs that, "I learned that the senator never acted or received information without informing the appropriate United States agency or official." Moreover Kampelman said that Reagan himself approved using Kennedy in this way and that Kampelman and Kennedy developed an excellent working relationship.

Kenneth Adelman is another Reagan administration official who dismissed the KGB memo. Adelman was director of US Arms Control Agency and had been deputy US Ambassador to the UN. "We knew senators were doing this sort of thing all the time and we ignored it," Adelman said. "We didn’t think it [the KGB memo] was important, and it wasn’t. The administration didn’t care about it."

Stephen Cohen, a political scientist at Princeton University and New York University, said that KGB memos shouldn’t be taken at face value. "As someone who has worked for years in once closed Soviet-era archives, I can tell you that many false documents can be found there," Cohen told PunditFact. "As the saying goes, rubbish in, rubbish out."

No smoke, no fire either. Only fantasy based on a KGB memo that records someone's wishlist that never came into being because its contents never existed in reality. I'd suspect the KGB memo more properly belongs in someone's hope chest. There isn't any such Kennedy letter.

 

[Tangmo]

Wrong on so many accounts. Where to begin? A single enlistment. Apparently I have issues with authority figures I don’t respect. It’s a common enough characteristic of my sub culture.

Right wing politics? No. At least not in the way you are designating it. I’m a classical liberal. I’m culturally traditional. I’m the product of a long line of a very flawed people. I’m poor white southern trash. I’d take the worst one of us over a guy like you any day of the week.

I live in hard-scrabbled dirt poor region of the country that’s been blasted by tornados, droughts, floods, occupied by federal troops and used by one corporation after another for fun and profit for the last 100 years.

You wouldn’t last six weeks here. I have one class of 7th grade girls that’d take you down in a matter of minutes. Even the chickens here are tough.

I will, from time to time, debate you. However, So far you’re just making self aggrandizing statements with no substance, no support, and worst of all.......neither you or your ideas are even interesting.

Thanks for the laffs.

 

[Dutch]

You guys over there would need to produce a letter and the letter would have to say what you fantasize it to say. All you have is a memo from a KGB agent on file in Soviet archives. There are many of those, a number of which are works of fiction when it comes to Western political figures and leaders.

So the KGB lied to the KGB?

So kindly get back to us when you're a player but not playing for the KGB Team. Because relying on Rush Linbaugh doesn't cut it. Both the Senate Historian Office and the Reagan Library found nothing of Limbaugh's letter game.

My source was a Forbes article. You know Forbes, mainstream press and all?

Reagan disarmament negotiator Max Kampelman said he gained valuable information from Kennedy that he welcomed because the Soviets liked working with Kennedy as a back-door conduit of information. Kampelman wrote in his memoirs that, "I learned that the senator never acted or received information without informing the appropriate United States agency or official." Moreover Kampelman said that Reagan himself approved using Kennedy in this way and that Kampelman and Kennedy developed an excellent working relationship.

Got a link indicating that letter, you say, doesn’t exist was approved by Reagan?

Kenneth Adelman is another Reagan administration official who dismissed the KGB memo. Adelman was director of US Arms Control Agency and had been deputy US Ambassador to the UN. "We knew senators were doing this sort of thing all the time and we ignored it," Adelman said. "We didn’t think it [the KGB memo] was important, and it wasn’t. The administration didn’t care about it."

So the memo “did” exist. I’m getting mixed messages here. I wish you would make up your mind.

Stephen Cohen, a political scientist at Princeton University and New York University, said that KGB memos shouldn’t be taken at face value. "As someone who has worked for years in once closed Soviet-era archives, I can tell you that many false documents can be found there," Cohen told PunditFact. "As the saying goes, rubbish in, rubbish out."

So now we’re back to the memo, you say, didn’t exist and Reagan didn’t care about when they did, right?

No smoke, no fire either. Only fantasy based on a KGB memo that records someone's wishlist that never came into being because its contents never existed in reality. I'd suspect the KGB memo more properly belongs in someone's hope chest. There isn't any such Kennedy letter.

The source I provided, with a linky, says it did. I much prefer my source i provided, with a linky, over the one you didn’t provide.

 

[Dutch]

Thanks for the laffs.

Im glad you enjoyed it. Don’t bother thanking me. I’m here to help.

 

[Tangmo]

So the KGB lied to the KGB?



My source was a Forbes article. You know Forbes, mainstream press and all?



Got a link indicating that letter, you say, doesn’t exist was approved by Reagan?



So the memo “did” exist. I’m getting mixed messages here. I wish you would make up your mind.



So now we’re back to the memo, you say, didn’t exist and Reagan didn’t care about when they did, right?



The source I provided, with a linky, says it did. I much prefer my source i provided, with a linky, over the one you didn’t provide.

There is no Kennedy letter. There's only a KGB wishlist memo which is by respectable accounts one of many such KGB memos of the Soviet Era. Kennedy and Reagan were on the same page. So are you and Rush Limbaugh. Forbes publishes a variety of points of view to include some pretty outlier ones which is the case here and in this.

The bottom line is that your common ground with your hero and idol Trump is contradictions and failures of logic and reasoning which also explains your schtick.

Worse yet, the posts from over there keep getting worse. The reason is obvious, i.e., Trump and Fanboys are only increasing and intensifying in their desperation.

 

[Tangmo]

Im glad you enjoyed it. Don’t bother thanking me. I’m here to help.

Thanking you for posting laffs is not a bother. It's why I see you are here.

 

[Dutch]

There is no Kennedy letter. There's only a KGB wishlist memo which is by respectable accounts one of many such KGB memos of the Soviet Era. Kennedy and Reagan were on the same page. So are you and Rush Limbaugh. Forbes publishes a variety of points of view to include some pretty outlier ones which is the case here and in this.

The author of the Forbes article says there is.

The bottom line is that your common ground with your hero and idol Trump is contradictions and failures of logic and reasoning which also explains your schtick.

Worse yet, the posts from over there keep getting worse. The reason is obvious, i.e., Trump and Fanboys are only increasing and intensifying in their desperation.

Another off topic tantrum. Sigh.

 

[Dutch]

Thanking you for posting laffs is not a bother. It's why I see you are here.

Pointing out the obvious to the oblivious is what I do.

 

[Oozlefinch]

Another off topic tantrum. Sigh.

One thing you will learn here is that TDS is a serious epidemic. Absolutely everything somehow has to relate to the President, no matter what it is.

It is rather interesting reading this, because I am only seeing the comments of 1 of the 3 people involved. I have found it much easier in my life to simply not even read what some say, because they are normally only barely logical rants that are entirely about their politics at heart.

As for the original post, I still largely do not care. We do the same thing every year here in the US, and frankly I am getting sick and tired of fighting the Donovians who keep trying to attack Atropia every year for the last decade.