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Russia to Push Syria to Surrender Chemical Weapons

This is a defeat for Putin no doubt. Assad accepts defacto to guilt for the attack making them both look foolish, or Assad doesn't comply and leaves Putin with egg on his face.
 
If Putin can come up with a workable solution to Assad and his chemical weapons while Obama dithers and asks Congress for permission for a strike that is unlikely to accomplish anything if it is carried out, he will have won some major superpower points for Russia, while Obama comes off looking like a total doofus.

But, if he can carry it off and get rid of Assad's chemical weapons, more power to him. He can then take his shirt off and go riding horseback around the country, beating his chest and playing macho man all he wants.
 
rocket88 said:
When was the last time a President personally went into battle? Seriously, when was it? Did Reagan go into Grenada personally? Did Bush I personally carry the flag in Panama?

Yes, Obama sent troops to get Osama bin Laden. That's what a President does.
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Obama got Osama. That was the claim, its false.
 
rocket88 said:
Seems like maybe they realized that Assad did use them...and are trying to save face now. It just seems like an odd time to suddenly back away from "it wasn't him."
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Well, they haven't changed their stance on the Rebels using the Chems. Especially when they are saying let the UN experts finish their investigation.


The Russian move comes as Obama, who has blamed Assad for killing hundreds of his own people in a chemical attack last month, is pressing for a limited strike against the Syrian government. It has denied launching the attack, insisting along with its ally Russia that the attack was launched by the rebels to drag the U.S. into war.

Lavrov and al-Moallem said after their talks that U.N. chemical weapons experts should complete their probe and present their findings to the U.N. Security Council.....snip~
 
CRUE CAB said:
Obama got Osama. That was the claim, its false.
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No President ever does it himself.

Would you give credit to Churchill and Roosevelt for winning WWII? How many battles did they personally participate in?
 
rocket88 said:
No President ever does it himself.

Would you give credit to Churchill and Roosevelt for winning WWII? How many battles did they personally participate in?
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Find the film of either Churchill or FDR claiming that they got Hitler.
Obama water boys always say that, Obama got Osama. Pfffffft
 
If GWB had been CIC they would still be talking about it. If the SEALS got wiped out it would be all Obama's fault. Osama was killed during Obama's watch. It drives them crazy.
rocket88 said:
No President ever does it himself.

Would you give credit to Churchill and Roosevelt for winning WWII? How many battles did they personally participate in?
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mak2 said:
It certainly is not.
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Obama gave an order, that was a no brainer. Had he not needed a boost in the polls, then as in now, Osama would still be in his hut watching porn.
 
mak2 said:
If GWB had been CIC they would still be talking about it. If the SEALS got wiped out it would be all Obama's fault. Osama was killed during Obama's watch. It drives them crazy.
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Dont drive me crazy at all. I couldnt have cared less about Osama. Oh, and prove he is dead.
 
First the Russians get control of the WMDs, then we take Assad's regime down. Good plan.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Dont drive me crazy at all. I couldnt have cared less about Osama. Oh, and prove he is dead.
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Prove OBL is dead? Do you believe that Assad gassed his people?
 
CRUE CAB said:
Find the film of either Churchill or FDR claiming that they got Hitler.
Obama water boys always say that, Obama got Osama. Pfffffft
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Hitler committed suicide before he could be captured, and anyway I am not aware of any military operation that specifically targeted Hitler that was on-going when he shot himself.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Obama gave an order, that was a no brainer.
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Exactly, that was his role in it, and he did his job.

mak2 is exactly right, if Bush had done it, partisans like you wouldn't let anyone hear the end of it. Heck, I remember people here giving Bush all the credit as it was. Bush deserves some credit as it was his intelligence apparatus, but Obama deserves credit for giving the order. He did his job, you just can't deal with it.

Do you blame Obama for the unemployment level? How many people did he personally fire? Not "created economic conditions," not "gave the order" (if it was government jobs). I mean personally, how many people did Obama fire himself? If the answer is zero, then he's not blame according to your logic.
 
ChuckBerry said:
Hitler committed suicide before he could be captured, and anyway I am not aware of any military operation that specifically targeted Hitler that was on-going when he shot himself.
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I'm sure the Russians would have gladly captured him if they got the chance. But the point is that Churchill deserves no credit at all for defeating Hitler according to crue, because he didn't personally fight in any battles.
 
rocket88 said:
Exactly, that was his role in it, and he did his job.

mak2 is exactly right, if Bush had done it, partisans like you wouldn't let anyone hear the end of it. Heck, I remember people here giving Bush all the credit as it was. Bush deserves some credit as it was his intelligence apparatus, but Obama deserves credit for giving the order. He did his job, you just can't deal with it.

Do you blame Obama for the unemployment level? How many people did he personally fire? Not "created economic conditions," not "gave the order" (if it was government jobs). I mean personally, how many people did Obama fire himself? If the answer is zero, then he's not blame according to your logic.
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Lets see, Bush has been out of office for 5 years. Yet you people just cant let it go.
Whoopie, Obama got Osama. There happy. And how has that slowed the war on terror, or even changed the battlefield?
Your boy wants his own war and you are happy to give it to him. Sad sad sad.
Send your sons to die so Obama can save face. Send our millions to Obama can save face. Yet you call me "partisan".
Obama policy is to blame for so many out of work.
Obamacare is going to put more out of work. But that is not the issue. Remember, thats one of those fake issues.
 
rocket88 said:
I'm sure the Russians would have gladly captured him if they got the chance. But the point is that Churchill deserves no credit at all for defeating Hitler according to crue, because he didn't personally fight in any battles.
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I know, the Russians won the war. Hahahahahaha
 
CRUE CAB said:
Lets see, Bush has been out of office for 5 years. Yet you people just cant let it go.
Whoopie, Obama got Osama. There happy. And how has that slowed the war on terror, or even changed the battlefield?
Your boy wants his own war and you are happy to give it to him. Sad sad sad.
Send your sons to die so Obama can save face. Send our millions to Obama can save face. Yet you call me "partisan".
Obama policy is to blame for so many out of work.
Obamacare is going to put more out of work. But that is not the issue. Remember, thats one of those fake issues.
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I don't care about Bush, I'm not the one giving him credit for killing Osama. Some here did.

Where did I say I support the policy in Syria? I give him credit for giving the order to get Osama, but I haven't said that I support going into Syria. Keep your strawmen to yourself.

According to you, Obama can't be to blame for any jobs lost unless he PERSONALLY fires them. You are partisan because you want to give him all the blame for the bad things, but no credit for the good things. I don't know how Obamacare has to do with bin Laden, but I'm sure you'll find a way for that strawman too.
 
CRUE CAB said:
I know, the Russians won the war. Hahahahahaha
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How many battles did Churchill personally fight in?

And the Russians were part of the victorious side in WWII, so yes, they did win.
 
rocket88 said:
How many battles did Churchill personally fight in?

And the Russians were part of the victorious side in WWII, so yes, they did win.
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The Russians were almost wiped off the map untill we entered the war.
Had Hitler been able to sent more men to the Russian front, Russia would not exist today.
 
rocket88 said:
I don't care about Bush, I'm not the one giving him credit for killing Osama. Some here did.

Where did I say I support the policy in Syria? I give him credit for giving the order to get Osama, but I haven't said that I support going into Syria. Keep your strawmen to yourself.

According to you, Obama can't be to blame for any jobs lost unless he PERSONALLY fires them. You are partisan because you want to give him all the blame for the bad things, but no credit for the good things. I don't know how Obamacare has to do with bin Laden, but I'm sure you'll find a way for that strawman too.
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You want to debate jobs, or our folly we are about to embark on to save Obama's legacy?
 
CRUE CAB said:
The Russians were almost wiped off the map untill we entered the war.
Had Hitler been able to sent more men to the Russian front, Russia would not exist today.
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So was France. Of course, they still won.
 
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