Russia threatens to cut off European gas supply

[Chainsawmassacre]

How stupid was it for these NATO countries who are in NATO because they don't trust Russia to become so dependent on Russian gas? NATO is a joke in every possible way and America should get out of this sham alliance. It's doing nothing to protect its neighbor ostensibly because they are not a NATO member and they are actually funding Putin's war because they were so ****ing dumb to become dependent on his gas. NATO is worse than a paper tiger and really is nothing more than European countries having a mechanism to draw America into any potential war in one of their piss ant Russian gas dependent countries. They made the choice to become dependent on their so called enemy and America should say goodbye and good luck dumb asses.

"Nobody sells us anything for free, and we are not going to do charity either - that is, existing contracts will be stopped," the Russian president said. "

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[Queen Margo]

The left should be pulling out of buying any fuel from any country that is not "climate change" friendly. They want to stop the producing of it here and then they buy it from countries who could give a shit about climate change. Such nonsense.

 

[Mycroft]

How stupid was it for these NATO countries who are in NATO because they don't trust Russia to become so dependent on Russian gas? NATO is a joke in every possible way and America should get out of this sham alliance. It's doing nothing to protect its neighbor ostensibly because they are not a NATO member and they are actually funding Putin's war because they were so ****ing dumb to become dependent on his gas. NATO is worse than a paper tiger and really is nothing more than European countries having a mechanism to draw America into any potential war in one of their piss ant Russian gas dependent countries. They made the choice to become dependent on their so called enemy and America should say goodbye and good luck dumb asses.

"Nobody sells us anything for free, and we are not going to do charity either - that is, existing contracts will be stopped," the Russian president said. "

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And another thing that's stupid?

Sanctions that eliminate Russia's ability to do transactions in Euros and Dollars...and then demanding that Russia do transactions in Euros and Dollars.

 

[craig]

And another thing that's stupid?

Sanctions that eliminate Russia's ability to do transactions in Euros and Dollars...and then demanding that Russia do transactions in Euros and Dollars.

Why? That is the reason Russia has to sell gas and oil at a third of the world price.

 

[MaryP]

Why? That is the reason Russia has to sell gas and oil at a third of the world price.

Ouch!

 

[Lursa]

How stupid was it for these NATO countries who are in NATO because they don't trust Russia to become so dependent on Russian gas? NATO is a joke in every possible way and America should get out of this sham alliance. It's doing nothing to protect its neighbor ostensibly because they are not a NATO member and they are actually funding Putin's war because they were so ****ing dumb to become dependent on his gas. NATO is worse than a paper tiger and really is nothing more than European countries having a mechanism to draw America into any potential war in one of their piss ant Russian gas dependent countries. They made the choice to become dependent on their so called enemy and America should say goodbye and good luck dumb asses.

"Nobody sells us anything for free, and we are not going to do charity either - that is, existing contracts will be stopped," the Russian president said. "

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Let 'em. That's always been a possibility. At least it's spring, that will help.

 

[MTAtech]

How stupid was it for these NATO countries who are in NATO because they don't trust Russia to become so dependent on Russian gas? NATO is a joke in every possible way and America should get out of this sham alliance. It's doing nothing to protect its neighbor ostensibly because they are not a NATO member and they are actually funding Putin's war because they were so ****ing dumb to become dependent on his gas. NATO is worse than a paper tiger and really is nothing more than European countries having a mechanism to draw America into any potential war in one of their piss ant Russian gas dependent countries. They made the choice to become dependent on their so called enemy and America should say goodbye and good luck dumb asses.

"Nobody sells us anything for free, and we are not going to do charity either - that is, existing contracts will be stopped," the Russian president said. "

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Anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback. Many experts called relying on Russian gas a vulnerability for years.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback. Many experts called relying on Russian gas a vulnerability for years.

NATO was formed because these European countries thought Russia was a threat. Why would they then turn around and become dependent on Russian oil? Don't need to be a monday morning quarterback to see how idiotic that is.

 

[Lursa]

Anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback. Many experts called relying on Russian gas a vulnerability for years.

And non-experts, like me. Decades ago. I really thought, hoped, they'd commit enough to alternatives.

 

[dcsports]

Anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback. Many experts called relying on Russian gas a vulnerability for years.

Good thing Biden cracked down on US energy independence!

 

[Lursa]

NATO was formed because these European countries thought Russia was a threat. Why would they then turn around and become dependent on Russian oil? Don't need to be a monday morning quarterback to see how idiotic that is.

It was, in many ways. It was also basic trade and commerce.

But the dependency on fossil fuels, when the EU had such a solid start and commitments and infrastructure for alternatives? Yup, stupid.

 

[Lursa]

Good thing Biden cracked down on US energy independence!

What makes you think we're not? Or at least, cant be?

 

[trixare4kids]

The left should be pulling out of buying any fuel from any country that is not "climate change" friendly. They want to stop the producing of it here and then they buy it from countries who could give a shit about climate change. Such nonsense.

Way to cut through the bullshit.

Well done, Queen Margo.

 

[Queen Margo]

Way to cut through the bullshit.

Well done, Queen Margo.

Well, really, it ticks me off! The so called "climate change" bleeding hearts that insist that the US needs to save the universe, but they don't stop to think that the countries we are getting the oil from do NOTHING to assist their noble cause. It is just more Kabuki Theatre. I have never seen so much stupidity from the left before, so I guess we can thank Trump for shining the light and bringing out their true colors. Their hate for Trump has only surfaced their real insanity!!

 

[MTAtech]

Good thing Biden cracked down on US energy independence!

Surprise! The U.S. Is Still Energy Independent

The Energy Information Administration recently posted December export numbers that showed the U.S remained energy independent in 2021.

www.forbes.com

 

[Hamish Howl]

And another thing that's stupid?

Sanctions that eliminate Russia's ability to do transactions in Euros and Dollars...and then demanding that Russia do transactions in Euros and Dollars.

Have they tried not invading people?

 

[TomFitz]

Why? That is the reason Russia has to sell gas and oil at a third of the world price.

Where did you get that?

 

[craig]

Where did you get that?

Russia is selling oil at discounted prices to India | All you need to know

Russia is offering a discount of $35 a barrel to price levels prior to the start of the Ukraine crisis in February, according to a Reuters report.

www.indiatoday.in

What can Russia do to sell its unwanted oil?

China and India sniff a bargain

www.economist.com

 

[Mycroft]

Have they tried not invading people?

What are "they"?

Anyway, I haven't said anything about anyone invading anyone. Why are you talking about that?

 

[TomFitz]

Russia is selling oil at discounted prices to India | All you need to know

Russia is offering a discount of $35 a barrel to price levels prior to the start of the Ukraine crisis in February, according to a Reuters report.

www.indiatoday.in

What can Russia do to sell its unwanted oil?

China and India sniff a bargain

www.economist.com

You need to reread your own links.

 

[Hamish Howl]

What are "they"?

Anyway, I haven't said anything about anyone invading anyone. Why are you talking about that?

So, you're telling me you've forgotten why the sanctions are there in the first place?

 

[Mycroft]

So, you're telling me you've forgotten why the sanctions are there in the first place?

Not at all.

 

[SCrider]

This is a thread of RW stupidity trying to out due each other.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Surprise! The U.S. Is Still Energy Independent

The Energy Information Administration recently posted December export numbers that showed the U.S remained energy independent in 2021.

www.forbes.com

Taking credit for covid shutdown and resulting lower fossil fuel use is somewhat desperate attempt by a Biden apologist to throw him a lifeline. What is interesting about this is how the same people that hate fossil fuel attempt to praise Biden with a well spun narrative that he didn't reduce American oil production. The only word I can think to define this duplicitous mindset is schizophrenic.

 

[MTAtech]

Taking credit for covid shutdown and resulting lower fossil fuel use is somewhat desperate attempt by a Biden apologist to throw him a lifeline. What is interesting about this is how the same people that hate fossil fuel attempt to praise Biden with a well spun narrative that he didn't reduce American oil production. The only word I can think to define this duplicitous mindset is schizophrenic.

First, Biden didn't reduce American oil production. Presidents don't control that, oil companies do. As explained many times, there aren't shortages of oil driving up prices because anyone who wants to fill their tanks aren't facing empty gas stations and oil companies aren't going to over-produce just to have a glut and be forced to drop prices.
Second, Biden wasn't president when the Covid shutdowns occurred but they were the thing to do before vaccines were distributed. Those shutdowns did create a glut of oil on the market and collapsed prices. Biden didn't "take credit" for that because he wasn't even in the government at the time.
Third, as we increase fuel economy standards and encourage EV vehicle use, gasoline demand will be lower and Biden absolutely can take credit for that -- although, unlike the former guy, he doesn't chest beat and bloviate.