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Russia Signals It Will Take More Ukrainian Children, a Crime in Progress

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3.19.23
When the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for President Vladimir Putin of Russia on Friday over the forcible deportation of children, it was a powerful recognition of actions that have not only been carried out in full public view, but continue today. The arrest warrant adds Putin’s name to a notorious list of despots and dictators accused of humanity’s worst atrocities. But this case is unusual in that the charges were announced not years after the abuses began, but effectively in real time. The judges at The Hague cited the need for urgent action because the deportations are “allegedly ongoing.” The Russian authorities, far from disguising the deportations, have put the children on display in Red Square photo-ops and at lavish concerts celebrating the war. They have also signaled that more deportations are on the way. Across southern Ukraine, local Russian proxy leaders are issuing new “evacuation orders” before an expected Ukrainian military offensive this spring. Such orders have often been a prelude to stepped-up deportations. Russians are deporting more and more people from the temporarily occupied districts of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.

Ukrainian officials said the arrest warrant highlighted the moral imperative of the conflict. “World leaders will think twice before shaking his hand or sitting with Putin at the negotiating table.” The court in The Hague also issued an arrest warrant for Maria Lvova-Belova, the Kremlin’s commissioner for children’s rights, who is the public face of the deportation program. She has spoken proudly about organizing a large-scale system for shuttling children out of Ukraine. After the arrest warrant, she vowed “to continue to work.” Putin, in a televised meeting with Lvova-Belova last month, noted the work approvingly. “The number of applications from our citizens regarding the adoption of children from the Donetsk and Luhansk republics, from the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions is also growing,” he said. The scale of the deportations in Ukraine over the past year is something not witnessed in Europe in generations. The exact number of children separated from their parents or orphaned is not known. Russia has acknowledged transferring 2,000 children without guardians; Ukrainian officials say they have confirmed 16,000 cases. “The real, full number of deportees may be much higher,” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine said in a statement Friday after the announcement by The Hague.


As you read this, the kidnapping and deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia continues unabated.

Fourth Geneva Convention: Article 49: Deportations, Transfers, Evacuations:
Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.
 
I am waiting for the usual suspects to come by and make excuses for this.
/S...........The US of A did the same thing to Great Briton, seizing thousands of their offspring and bringing them across the pond to weaken GB.....\S....
 




As you read this, the kidnapping and deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia continues unabated.



So what, exactly, are we supposed to do about this? Sending weapons clearly doesn’t stop it, as it’s been going on for months.
 
I am waiting for the usual suspects to come by and make excuses for this.



Excuses? What excuses? It is the moral obligation of the Russian Army to remove civilians from combat zones and provide them shelters.
 
Excuses? What excuses? It is the moral obligation of the Russian Army to remove civilians from combat zones and provide them shelters.

Is English your native language?

Fourth Geneva Convention: Article 49: Deportations, Transfers, Evacuations:
Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.33_GC-IV-EN.pdf
 
way to dodge the question.

What, exactly, are we supposed to do about this, since sending weapons clearly hasn’t stopped it?
I'm not sure where the western world stands on the sanctions, but a condition of lifting any sanctions would be the return of Ukrainian citizens to their country.
It seems Putin knows his population is in decline and it trying to repopulate it. SOURCE
 
I'm not sure where the western world stands on the sanctions, but a condition of lifting any sanctions would be the return of Ukrainian citizens to their country.
It seems Putin knows his population is in decline and it trying to repopulate it. SOURCE

Seeing as Cold War II is in full swing, I very much doubt sanctions will be lifted any time soon no matter what happens.
 
I'm not sure where the western world stands on the sanctions, but a condition of lifting any sanctions would be the return of Ukrainian citizens to their country.



And where should Russia return kids from say Lysychansk? To Kyiv which you consider their legal home, or back to Lysychansk, their natural home, which is now part of Russia?




It seems Putin knows his population is in decline and it trying to repopulate it. SOURCE


The Kyiv narrative. It can just be that the native Russian population want out of Ukraine
 
… Lysychansk … which is now part of Russia?

Putin wished it, clicked his heels together three times, and that makes it really real.
 
yawol herr kapitan

Dude, you might want to look around. "Sudetenland" has been annexed and it wasn't by Ukraine. If you are searching for Nazis, look east.
 
And where should Russia return kids from say? To Kyiv which you consider their legal home, or back to Lysychansk, their natural home, which is now part of Russia?







The Kyiv narrative. It can just be that the native Russian population want out of Ukraine
Back to Lysychansk, which will be back in Ukraine.
Seems to population pattern has been people of free will leaving Russia, those captive of other being forced into Russia...why is that?
 
Of course, there are more children that need to be Denazified.
 




As you read this, the kidnapping and deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia continues unabated.


You mean save more children,and why do you keep quoting a court your Government doesn't recognise?
 
Dude, you might want to look around. "Sudetenland" has been annexed and it wasn't by Ukraine. If you are searching for Nazis, look east.


More territories await liberation from Bandera National Socialists
 
You mean save more children,and why do you keep quoting a court your Government doesn't recognise?


Daily these guys make the case for why Russians in Ukraine better fight to secede from that country. When a grotesque Court believes it is in the better interest of minors to be left destitute in active war zones than taken to safety and shelter; that kind of world that Court recommends has lost its moral compass
 
And where should Russia return kids from say Lysychansk? To Kyiv which you consider their legal home, or back to Lysychansk, their natural home, which is now part of Russia?

The Kyiv narrative. It can just be that the native Russian population want out of Ukraine


Back to Lysychansk, which will be back in Ukraine.

So not to Kyiv. I am fine with that. If they are from Lysychansk, then back to Lysychansk. Anyways it is all a mute point; the Russian Federation is in charge


Seems to population pattern has been people of free will leaving Russia, those captive of other being forced into Russia...why is that?


I do not consider kids removed from active war zones to Russia captives. Am I to understand that when the US, UK, France invaded Iraq their Armies just sat in their tanks and ate their MREs while kids left destitute fended for themselves? Now, if that was the case, then that was a war crime. The US, UK, and France should enact legislations that obligate their armies to make care of minors left destitute in any future military invasions of their a priority
 
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