Russia Hoax Whistleblower Threatened, Multiple Attempts to Report Wrongdoing Were Ignored

soap box said:

You didn't quote them saying that Trump colluded with the Russians because they never said that. If you still want to make a fuss about this point you'll have to post a quote from some reputable source that isn't a hit piece and you'll be correct. Otherwise, no.

Obama never accused the Trump campaign of anything. The closest Clinton ever got to a specific claim was that Trump "welcomed" and "encouraged" the Russian interference.

I understand the trump support campaign loves this lie and will deep fake it if needed. This is one where a reputable source and a quote is needed.

Quote where Clinton makes an accusation of collusion.

Quote where she said she had evidence or proof.

Edit- This question was part of the purpose of the Mueller investigation and we have his answer. If Mueller is right, that's why it's a campaign issue for Clinton to question Trump's allegiance to our country when he never condemned foreign interference. We found out later that there's not enough proof that he colluded with the Russians, and you're complaining that Clinton said so!

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• Trump as a "puppet" of Putin: During the 2016 campaign, Clinton famously accused Trump of being a "puppet" for Russian President Vladimir Putin. She reiterated this sentiment on social media in 2025, reacting to reports that Trump's newly appointed Secretary of Defense had ordered U.S. Cyber Command to "stand down from all planning against Russia."
• Concerns about Russian election interference: Clinton has consistently maintained that Russia interfered in the 2016 election with the aim of helping Trump win, calling it a "direct attack on our democracy". She has emphasized that the US intelligence community concluded that Russia interfered to help get Trump elected. Clinton has also voiced concerns about the US's ongoing vulnerability to future Russian election interference.
• Trump's stance on NATO and Putin: Clinton has criticized Trump's anti-NATO stance and expressions of admiration for Putin, suggesting they align with Russia's interests.
• Allegations of Trump-Russia collusion: Clinton has stated she is "convinced" that there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia during the 2016 election, citing evidence of communication and financial ties.

hecatmoggie said:

a quick google AI will show you

Key themes in Clinton's statements include:

• Trump as a "puppet" of Putin: During the 2016 campaign, Clinton famously accused Trump of being a "puppet" for Russian President Vladimir Putin. She reiterated this sentiment on social media in 2025, reacting to reports that Trump's newly appointed Secretary of Defense had ordered U.S. Cyber Command to "stand down from all planning against Russia."

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hecatmoggie said:

• Concerns about Russian election interference: Clinton has consistently maintained that Russia interfered in the 2016 election with the aim of helping Trump win, calling it a "direct attack on our democracy". She has emphasized that the US intelligence community concluded that Russia interfered to help get Trump elected. Clinton has also voiced concerns about the US's ongoing vulnerability to future Russian election interference.

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hecatmoggie said:

• Trump's stance on NATO and Putin: Clinton has criticized Trump's anti-NATO stance and expressions of admiration for Putin, suggesting they align with Russia's interests.

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hecatmoggie said:

• Allegations of Trump-Russia collusion: Clinton has stated she is "convinced" that there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia during the 2016 election, citing evidence of communication and financial ties.

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hecatmoggie said:

c'mon man ... you can google

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soap box said:

Legitimate campaign issue. Legitimate critique of a president. His allegiance is still a concern. Did she accuse him of collusion? Did she claim she had evidence?




Yep.



She's still correct about that. Still a legitimate issue.



Her claims overlap with findings in the Mueller report. Clinton claimed Russian interference and Mueller verified it. Clinton repeated claims about being a puppet, and her objections were supported by Trump's own words and actions in Helsinki and his rupture of NATO in the beginning of this term. Clinton came short of a specific accusation in a declarative sentence about Collusion. Mueller said he didn't see enough evidence. Neither made a specific accusation. Same difference.

When she said "convinced", it can't be a lie because that's her interpretation. Everybody who hears her words judges for themselves. You judged for yourself. I did too. She didn't lie about trump working with the Russians. Because:


Mueller showed the evidence supporting everything Clinton was claiming. You're complaining that they agreed.

I'm complaining that this sham doesn't deal with the findings and results in the ICA and reports of 2019.

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