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Rush Got It Wrong. Sandra Fluke In Her Own Words

haymarket said:
talk about focusing on the hole and not the donut. Look, the stuff about the Andrea Mitchell who and what is the biggest story is irrelevant. The meat of this story..... the donut and not the hole.... is the utter false premise of Limbaugh and the stupidity of his claim about having too much sex and the expense.

You are far too bright to be caught in the headlights of irrelevancy.

I do not care if anyone thinks this is a big story or a tiny story. Limbaugh looked like a complete and total fool who could not find his way around the inside of a womans panties if he was given a road map and a "how to" book.

from apdst



As you journey through life
make this your goal,
keep you eye on the donut
and not on the hole.

This story is NOT about President Obama. It is not about Andrea Mitchell. It is not even about Rachel Maddow since she is just the vehicle. It is about the utter stupidity of Rush Limbaugh and his complete ignorance as it applies to oral contraception and the female anatomy.
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No, dude...even you are wrong. This story is about liberals advancing their notion that government has any need or right to require insurance companies to provide a coverage and requiring an organization, when they purchase the services of an insurance company, to pay for such coverage. It's about liberals demanding more government control over it's citizens.

It's also about focusing media attention on this birth control issue to divert attention from the pathetic leadership and policies of our President.
 
Top Cat said:
Well there you have it then. Don't listen because facts might just get in the way a good whine. Seriously, her message has in it facts that of course Rush Pigbaugh neglected to share with his minions
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And I should care about Limbaugh because....?
 
Mycroft said:
My ex-wife works for the federal government and she does not get free health care at all...let alone for life. She pays her premiums like everyone else and when she leaves government service her coverage ends. Now, I don't know how MUCH she pays, but you can get an idea at this link: Premium Rates
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Which Government. Not ours or any state government...
 
MaggieD said:
This woman made an excellent case for birth control pills being a medical necessity for many women who have problems with ovarian cysts and other medical conditions. That's truth, they are.
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The individual that had ovarian cysts, recieved birth control through her insurance, according to the testimony. I could understand a mandate requiring insurance companies to cover contraceptives for the rare individuals that have true medical necessities. However, that's not what Obama's mandate did.

A very large majority of women that use contraceptives are not for the reasons she chooses to highlight for sympathy. The vast majority of individuals use contraception to prevent pregnancy and since she never highlighted her medical concern, I would assume this is the speaker's concern.
 
This girl lied from the very first minute.

The pill, in its generic form, is $4 at Target, Walmart, CVS, Walgreens and many other national chains. It is not $3,000 for any time period less than 62 years and 6 months.
 
ksu_aviator said:
This girl lied from the very first minute.

The pill, in its generic form, is $4 at Target, Walmart, CVS, Walgreens and many other national chains. It is not $3,000 for any time period less than 62 years and 6 months.
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Links, proof.

I know it doesn't exist, but I'm just going to enjoy watching you trying to spin your way out of this one...
 
"The United States of Amnesia"can at least be ascribed to the U.S. media but not the populace!
 
Mycroft said:
No, dude...even you are wrong. This story is about liberals advancing their notion that government has any need or right to require insurance companies to provide a coverage and requiring an organization, when they purchase the services of an insurance company, to pay for such coverage. It's about liberals demanding more government control over it's citizens.

It's also about focusing media attention on this birth control issue to divert attention from the pathetic leadership and policies of our President.
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Sounds like you never even watched the complete Maddow report. The story had NOTHING to do with the right wing talking points you repeat here. NOTHING. Her story had everything to do with the abysmal ignorance of Limbaugh when it comes to women, their anatomy and oral contraception.
 
American said:
More whiners from the left. Boohoo, want some cheese with that whine?
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More whining about the "imaginary left.

Too bad there's not a right. There's only people who are used by self-serving self-proclaimed "right" political machines and elected assholes in Washington for nothing more than a means to to fill the these crooks coffers.

BTW...the other side of the isle is no less guilty than their fake counterpart.

Keep buying the brain candy...
 
haymarket said:
Sounds like you never even watched the complete Maddow report. The story had NOTHING to do with the right wing talking points you repeat here. NOTHING. Her story had everything to do with the abysmal ignorance of Limbaugh when it comes to women, their anatomy and oral contraception.
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Righties can't watch Maddow. |They don't understand her. She uses way too much common sense.
 
Top Cat said:
Righties can't watch Maddow. |They don't understand her. She uses way too much common sense.
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I can't stomach much of Maddow, but it's not because of her common sense (I don't think she has much)...it's because of her snarkyness.
 
haymarket said:
Sounds like you never even watched the complete Maddow report. The story had NOTHING to do with the right wing talking points you repeat here. NOTHING. Her story had everything to do with the abysmal ignorance of Limbaugh when it comes to women, their anatomy and oral contraception.
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Give me a break, dude. She lead off her whole show with nothing but liberal talking points, her plug for Andrea Mitchell and then moved on to Ms. Fluke and Rush...but before she did that, she just HAD to talk about how nice it was that Obama called Ms. Fluke (as if anyone cares).

By that time I was tired of watching her drivel and, since I don't give a wit about Rush...and I don't like her snarky style...I gave the rest of it a pass. I don't figure I missed much of importance.
 
Mycroft said:
Give me a break, dude. She lead off her whole show with nothing but liberal talking points, her plug for Andrea Mitchell and then moved on to Ms. Fluke and Rush...but before she did that, she just HAD to talk about how nice it was that Obama called Ms. Fluke (as if anyone cares).

By that time I was tired of watching her drivel and, since I don't give a wit about Rush...and I don't like her snarky style...I gave the rest of it a pass. I don't figure I missed much of importance.
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The person who should have called Ms Fluke was, not the POTUS, but the chair of that committee. That would have been appropriate. POTUS call was simply making political hay.
 
Middleground said:
According to Planned Parenthood, the cost is between $15 to $50 a month. You know there are different kinds of BC out there... it all depends on the specific woman's specific needs.
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AND you know Planned Parenthood also advises abstinance which is effective AND free...just saying.
 
Dickieboy said:
AND you know Planned Parenthood also advises abstinence which is effective AND free...just saying.
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Do you know that abstinence is very ineffective for the many woman's maladies for which birth control is prescribed? ...just saying. :roll:
 
Dickieboy said:
AND you know Planned Parenthood also advises abstinance which is effective AND free...just saying.
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You have absolutely no idea why many women take BC. You might as well have been one of the 5 panelists.

For you info, abstinence does not help with hormones and other various women's health issues. Just sayin.
 
Middleground said:
You have absolutely no idea why many women take BC. You might as well have been one of the 5 panelists.

For you info, abstinence does not help with hormones and other various women's health issues. Just sayin.
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The left talks as if it's some huge percentage of women that use BC for reasons other than getting pregnant. Only about 14% use the pill to prevent cysts and the like. The remaining 86% use the pill to prevent pregnancy. Requiring religious organizations to cover the pill for the vast majority is, as Rush said, paying them to have sex. I agree, if we have to pay them to have sex, we better get some videographic proof.
 
Middleground said:
You have absolutely no idea why many women take BC. You might as well have been one of the 5 panelists.

For you info, abstinence does not help with hormones and other various women's health issues. Just sayin.
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Doesn't the pill have some pretty serious associated risk like blood clots for instance? Makes me wonder how women ever survived withouth "the pill". Just sayin
 
Middleground said:
You have absolutely no idea why many women take BC. You might as well have been one of the 5 panelists.

For you info, abstinence does not help with hormones and other various women's health issues. Just sayin.
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You have absolutely not reviewed this and the VARIOUS other threads where I et al have repeated ad nauseam that the issue is not BC prescribed for medical conditions which I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH insurance covering nor does Georgetown U as Ms Fluke stated.

I understand now the tactic and how effective it is. The Democrat/liberal/progressive ploy was to suggest BC be covered by all packages including religious entities then divert the discussion to women’s health, hormone issues, Viagra availability and others until the Republican/conservative/libertarian’s scream rage as if their hair was on fire as my head is about to EXPLODE with the constant diversion from the initial issue. Congratulations, good tactic…it is working.
 
Middleground said:
According to Planned Parenthood, the cost is between $15 to $50 a month. You know there are different kinds of BC out there... it all depends on the specific woman's specific needs.
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The pill works for everyone and is $4-$10. But even by the numbers you like it takes 16-30 years to reach the 3 year number this young lady came up with. She's still a liar.
 
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