running the USA like a TRUMP business,... god help us

[Germinator]

As a kid was a Boy Scout AND since my dad was an engineer he taught me early on about the importance about doing an objective analysis,... long story short grew up to be a fiscal conservative and do my due diligence before investing in a piece of real estate or an equity

So when TRUMP boasted about being rich, decided to approach my decision to vote for him based upon an objective fiscal analysis and apply what I learned as a Boy Scout



In 2016 I did not vote for TRUMP because the way I select a candidate to vote for is to think of my vote as a business investment deal,... given the pandemic sadly what I feared is happening,... POTUS is running the USA like a TRUMP business

I mention this because last year noticed,...

Most Americans think Trump is a successful businessman. Until they learn about his losses.

WASHINGTON Donald Trump's image as a powerful real estate tycoon helped carry him to the White House in 2016 and as he begins to campaign for re-election, a majority of Americans still believe he is a successful businessman, according to a recent Politico/Morning Consult poll.

Until they learn about his reported $1.17 billion in losses between 1985 and 1994, that is.

The poll found that when asked, "Generally speaking, do you think President Donald Trump has been successful or unsuccessful in business?" 54% of registered voters said he had been at least somewhat successful. Another 36% said he had been unsuccessful and 10% weren't sure.

Trump still thought to be successful businessman by most, poll finds

basically wondering if other debate politics forum posters knew about trumps past business failures

 

[Oborosen]

As a kid was a Boy Scout AND since my dad was an engineer he taught me early on about the importance about doing an objective analysis,... long story short grew up to be a fiscal conservative and do my due diligence before investing in a piece of real estate or an equity

So when TRUMP boasted about being rich, decided to approach my decision to vote for him based upon an objective fiscal analysis and apply what I learned as a Boy Scout

It's funny. Starting a page to solely cry about Trump and then forgetting that despite the limited items that you decided to put on the page.

Trump still has over a 95% success rate and you're somehow acting like that's a bad thing.

Obama taught constitutional law and as president, he still managed to break it more than once.

 

[Luther]

It's funny. Starting a page to solely cry about Trump and then forgetting that despite the limited items that you decided to put on the page.

Trump still has over a 95% success rate and you're somehow acting like that's a bad thing.

Obama taught constitutional law and as president, he still managed to break it more than once.

Trump still has over a 95% success rate and you're somehow acting like that's a bad thing.

Was he successful signing a bill that gave those who qualified for a 1,200 buy off even if they did not need it and putting us even more TRILLIONS in the hole?

 

[Oborosen]

Was he successful signing a bill that gave those who qualified for a 1,200 buy off even if they did not need it and putting us even more TRILLIONS in the hole?

buy off?

 

[Luther]

buy off?

Yeppers

It does great things in an election year(wink)

 

[Oborosen]

Yeppers

It does great things in an election year(wink)

:roll:

 

[Luther]

:roll:

Yes, sit back down in your chair(LOL)

 

[RabidAlpaca]

It's funny. Starting a page to solely cry about Trump and then forgetting that despite the limited items that you decided to put on the page.

Trump still has over a 95% success rate and you're somehow acting like that's a bad thing.

Obama taught constitutional law and as president, he still managed to break it more than once.

Every single business Trump has started has failed (Casinos, airlines, steak company, etc.) . He's filed for bankruptcy numerous times and several of his businesses have been shut down for impropriety. (Trump U for defrauding its customers)

The only business that hasn't failed completely was the real estate business he inherited from daddy, which even that didn't match inflation.

These are facts. You're not entitled to your own facts. Donald Trump is a failed businessman that attempts to paint himself as far more successful than he actually is.

 

[Oborosen]

Every single business Trump has started has failed (Casinos, airlines, steak company, etc.) . He's filed for bankruptcy numerous times and several of his businesses have been shut down for impropriety. (Trump U for defrauding its customers)

The only business that hasn't failed completely was the real estate business he inherited from daddy, which even that didn't match inflation.

These are facts. You're not entitled to your own facts. Donald Trump is a failed businessman that attempts to paint himself as far more successful than he actually is.

^^^Stated without realizing that the man owns just about, or over 500 separate business entities.

I'll keep my facts, you can go lie through your teeth elsewhere.

 

[Oborosen]

Every single business Trump has started has failed (Casinos, airlines, steak company, etc.) . He's filed for bankruptcy numerous times and several of his businesses have been shut down for impropriety. (Trump U for defrauding its customers)

The only business that hasn't failed completely was the real estate business he inherited from daddy, which even that didn't match inflation.

These are facts. You're not entitled to your own facts. Donald Trump is a failed businessman that attempts to paint himself as far more successful than he actually is.

^^^Stated without realizing that the man owns just about, or over 500 separate business entities.

I'll keep my facts, you can play your stupid game elsewhere.

 

[Luther]

I'm still waiting to hear from Trumpeters that Trump is now a politician and not a businessman(LOL)

 

[RabidAlpaca]

^^^Stated without realizing that the man owns just about, or over 500 separate business entities.

I'll keep my facts, you can go lie through your teeth elsewhere.

^^^Stated without realizing that the man owns just about, or over 500 separate business entities.

I'll keep my facts, you can play your stupid game elsewhere.

Bahahahaha, you're so emotional you had to reply nearly the same thing twice, both posts without any substance!

Successful businessmen do not file bankruptcy multiple times, have multiple companies shut down for defrauding it's customers, and only have the company daddy left him!

Trump had to borrow large sums of money from foreign banks because American banks wouldn't loan to him, and he's now underwater. You lie because you have an agenda and you're deeply emotionally invested in defending Trump's failures.

 

[Oborosen]

Bahahahaha, you're so emotional you had to reply nearly the same thing twice, both posts without any substance!

Successful businessmen do not file bankruptcy multiple times, have multiple companies shut down for defrauding it's customers, and only have the company daddy left him!

Trump had to borrow large sums of money from foreign banks because American banks wouldn't loan to him, and he's now underwater. You lie because you have an agenda and you're deeply emotionally invested in defending Trump's failures.

Actually I edited the post. I don't know why there are two now.
Other then that, I don't really what your opinions on what constitutes a successful businessman are.

He still has a positive success rate and by a large majority. So what you choose to believe, really doesn't have that much bearing here.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Actually I edited the post. I don't know why there are two now.
Other then that, I don't really what your opinions on what constitutes a successful businessman are.

He still has a positive success rate and by a large majority. So what you choose to believe, really doesn't have that much bearing here.

Being financially underwater from foreign loans is not being a successful businessman. My net worth is actually positive, so even I'm wealthier and more successful than Trump.

 

[Oborosen]

Being financially underwater from foreign loans is not being a successful businessman. My net worth is actually positive, so even I'm wealthier and more successful than Trump.

Once again, a claim that I've seen no proof for. So I don't really care about it's validity.

Though the whole indebted to foreign loans thing. Kind of ran dry for your camp, a long time ago. So you may want to find another avenue of insults that the lot of you haven't overused.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Once again, a claim that I've seen no proof for. So I don't really care about it's validity.

Though the whole indebted to foreign loans thing. Kind of ran dry for your camp, a long time ago. So you may want to find another avenue of insults that the lot of you haven't overused.

There has been evidence of his loans from Deutsche Bank among others and his inability to pay them back after filing bankruptcy multiple times.

The real point is you don't actually care if he's a successful businessman or not. Even if you admitted I was right about everything you wouldn't change your mind about him because you're in a cult and deeply invested in Trump as a person.

Consider being your own person with your own positions and ideals instead of just defending Trump no matter what. There used to be real conservatives.

 

[Oborosen]

There has been evidence of his loans from Deutsche Bank among others and his inability to pay them back after filing bankruptcy multiple times.

The real point is you don't actually care if he's a successful businessman or not. Even if you admitted I was right about everything you wouldn't change your mind about him because you're in a cult and deeply invested in Trump as a person.

Consider being your own person with your own positions and ideals instead of just defending Trump no matter what. There used to be real conservatives.

And thank you for being desperate enough to jump right back to the cult shtick.

I'm going back to the adults table now.

 

[Daqueef]

Every single business Trump has started has failed (Casinos, airlines, steak company, etc.) . He's filed for bankruptcy numerous times and several of his businesses have been shut down for impropriety. (Trump U for defrauding its customers)

The only business that hasn't failed completely was the real estate business he inherited from daddy, which even that didn't match inflation.

These are facts. You're not entitled to your own facts. Donald Trump is a failed businessman that attempts to paint himself as far more successful than he actually is.

Just because you file bankrupcy does not mean you are broke.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Just because you file bankrupcy does not mean you are broke.

When you file bankruptcy multiple times, all of the companies you started yourself were failures, and you can't pay back your foreign loans so you're financially underwater, yeah, you're broke.

And thank you for being desperate enough to jump right back to the cult shtick.
I'm going back to the adults table now.

The facts of Trump's financial failures are too much to bear, flip the table and run out of the room screaming!

 

[Daqueef]

When you file bankruptcy multiple times, all of the companies you started yourself were failures, and you can't pay back your foreign loans so you're financially underwater, yeah, you're broke.



The facts of Trump's financial failures are too much to bear, flip the table and run out of the room screaming!

But they werent. So your argument is a complete failure

 

[RabidAlpaca]

But they werent. So your argument is a complete failure

Why don't you name some companies that Donald Trump started that didn't end up failing. The casinos, the "university", the steak business, the airline, one after another he drove them into the ground.

 

[Germinator]

Trump still has over a 95% success rate and you're somehow acting like that's a bad thing.

Obama taught constitutional law and as president, he still managed to break it more than once.

I'm sure you have heard the expression "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" which is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers

I specifically point this out because the so called 5% failure rate has disproportionate consequences

Think of it this way who cares about an individual being right 95% of the time when playing poker hands for pennies VERSES being consistently wrong when playing high stakes poker hands for billions of dollars as a businessman

Personally think voters should look at POTUS having the job akin to a really stakes poker player where hands for TRILLIONS of dollars are played w/ other peoples money

WRT Obama and constitutional law that is water under the bridge, agree there are what if questions that can be debated HOWEVER Obama is not at the helm at this moment in time and TRUMP is!!!

Point I am trying to make (and given the title of this thread is "running the USA like a TRUMP business,... god help us") is the guy as a poker player has one talent, which is being able to bluff is way through a round

To illustrate the point once again, consider his past business failures, and his response in each one of those business failures where billions were on the line,... TRUMPs poker "bluff" was to divert attention away from his financial mismanagement

Given the pandemic, we see TRUMP yet again crying "FAKE NEWS" which is his SOP (Standard Operating "poker hand" Procedure)

sadly basically agree with TRUMP,... "it is what it is"



bottom line (as I see things) ya can't blame Obama or the Clinton's because at the moment TRUMP is POTUS

and also should point out TRUMP has managed to MAKE AMERICA FIRST (in number of victims to fall due to the virus)

PS one last thing to consider when looking at politics as a game of poker,... when ya have a losing hand, smart players know to cut their loses

The 2 Things You Need To Do To Cut Your Poker Losses | PokerNews

as I see things a second term for TRUMP would be akin to doubling down and backing a poker player who isn't analytic (AND has only one skill,... the ability to bluff)

 

[Daqueef]

Why don't you name some companies that Donald Trump started that didn't end up failing. The casinos, the "university", the steak business, the airline, one after another he drove them into the ground.

Sure. If he was such a failure he wouldnt be sitting in billions.

 

[Oborosen]

I'm sure you have heard the expression "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" which is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers

I specifically point this out because the so called 5% failure rate has disproportionate consequences

Think of it this way who cares about an individual being right 95% of the time when playing poker hands for pennies VERSES being consistently wrong when playing high stakes poker hands for billions of dollars as a businessman

Personally think voters should look at POTUS having the job akin to a really stakes poker player where hands for TRILLIONS of dollars are played w/ other peoples money

WRT Obama and constitutional law that is water under the bridge, agree there are what if questions that can be debated HOWEVER Obama is not at the helm at this moment in time and TRUMP is!!!

Point I am trying to make (and given the title of this thread is "running the USA like a TRUMP business,... god help us") is the guy as a poker player has one talent, which is being able to bluff is way through a round

To illustrate the point once again, consider his past business failures, and his response in each one of those business failures where billions were on the line,... TRUMPs poker "bluff" was to divert attention away from his financial mismanagement

Given the pandemic, we see TRUMP yet again crying "FAKE NEWS" which is his SOP (Standard Operating "poker hand" Procedure)

sadly basically agree with TRUMP,... "it is what it is"



bottom line (as I see things) ya can't blame Obama or the Clinton's because at the moment TRUMP is POTUS

and also should point out TRUMP has managed to MAKE AMERICA FIRST (in number of victims to fall due to the virus)

PS one last thing to consider when looking at politics as a game of poker,... when ya have a losing hand, smart players know to cut their loses

The 2 Things You Need To Do To Cut Your Poker Losses | PokerNews

as I see things a second term for TRUMP would be akin to doubling down and backing a poker player who isn't analytic (AND has only one skill,... the ability to bluff)

You do realize that bluffing is basically all that you're doing right now, correct?

Because you somehow thing that pandemics losses are all Trump's doing.. and you are the one trying to educate me on numbers?

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Sure. If he was such a failure he wouldnt be sitting in billions.

He doesn't have billions. He has millions at best and he's financially under water with loans from foreign banks.

It's one of the many reasons he's so incredibly passionate about keeping his tax returns secret despite promising to release them during his campaign.

Your inability to name a successful company Trump started is noted.