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Ron Paul, Dr. No-body, beats Rudy and Fred -- again

danarhea

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So my question is the following: When is FOX News going to drop Rudy and Fred from the debates, hmmmmmm?

Article is here.
 
danarhea said:
So my question is the following: When is FOX News going to drop Rudy and Fred from the debates, hmmmmmm?

Article is here.
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I enjoy it as well, but the fact is Thompson will do well in a few southern States and Guliani will do well in the ultra liberal states.

Alaska is probably the only state Paul has a shot at winning.
 
ARealConservative said:
I enjoy it as well, but the fact is Thompson will do well in a few southern States and Guliani will do well in the ultra liberal states.

Alaska is probably the only state Paul has a shot at winning.
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Sadly, I agree. I wish they knew how to effectively campaign (it's not like they lack funding)....

Really, though, I hope Paul does well enough to make a big splash. That way, after Frudy McRomabee is crushed by the dems, a lot of neocons will lose faith and start looking for a conservative alternative.
 
Fred will probably drop out after the South Carolina Primary. If Rudy does not win Florida, then he may as well drop out as well.

I think its essentially a three way race among the Republicans. Romney McCain, and Huckabee. Of course since it seems like the Republicans are doing everything humanly possible to ensure their defeat come November, I doubt they will nominate McCain (their only real chance) and instead will go with Huckabee, or if they really want to lose big, Romney.
 
O come on how has Ron paul not been given media coverage he has been all over the place and not just news channels letterman bill maher.This idea the media has not given him a platform is just beyond ridiculous.

My messege for Ron paul supporters is to have moved to Russia in the early 90s thats the closest economic system to what he is in favour of was and guess what it was a disaster.
 

I agree, but do you really think Romney would be worse for the GOP than Huckabee?
 
mikhail said:
My messege for Ron paul supporters is to have moved to Russia in the early 90s thats the closest economic system to what he is in favour of was and guess what it was a disaster.
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What the hell are you talking about? Comparing free-market Austrian economics to the anything-but economics of the early Russian Federation is a bit far-stretched.

Please clarify.
 
So was Paul's goal to come in 4th instead of 5th or 6th? :roll:
 
Joby said:
What the hell are you talking about? Comparing free-market Austrian economics to the anything-but economics of the early Russian Federation is a bit far-stretched.

Please clarify.
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No the early capitalist sytem brought in russia was an extremely regulation free economy and what do you know it became a gangsta economy.
 
mikhail said:
No the early capitalist sytem brought in russia was an extremely regulation free economy and what do you know it became a gangsta economy.
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That's horrible. Too bad they privatized the KGB :lol:

Now, how would deregulating the US economy make it a gangsta one?

Today, regulation in the US means that, for example, you can only choose healthcare options that benefit big business, and oil and coal recieve billions in subsidies while there are large tarrifs on imported ethanol. Or pay-to-pollute programs allow large corporations to pay what's to them a small fee in order to pollute, while smaller businesses are penalized greatly.

Regulation itself has been used by the US federal govt to ensure large profits to their sponsors, not the other way around.
 

Try it remove the regulations and the gangstas will jump in.A house on every business you wanna buy some insurance to make sure your building doesent accidently burn down? dont worry we are are a legitmate business well theres nothing stopping us anyway.We are simply a business that couldnt exist formally because of those regulation that stopped us being legit now give us money we know where your family lives after all.
 

We're talking about regulation, not allowing the mob to operate freely. Nor are we talking about getting rid of police.

Of course, following Pauls plans on ending the War on Drugs would probably get rid of these gangstas anyway.
 
Thought I read somewhere that Ron Paul wrote racist homophobic material back in the day? How on earth would that qualify him for anything but leading the KKK?
 
PeteEU said:
Thought I read somewhere that Ron Paul wrote racist homophobic material back in the day? How on earth would that qualify him for anything but leading the KKK?
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That''s OK. He is for abolishing the Federal Reserve so all is forgiven. :roll:
 
PeteEU said:
Thought I read somewhere that Ron Paul wrote racist homophobic material back in the day? How on earth would that qualify him for anything but leading the KKK?
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untrue.

A newsletter in his name did write some awful things.

Ron Paul took moral responsibility for it, but he didn't write the articles and doesn't agree with the author.

This is an example of how the American Press works. Hillary has been known to say awful things about jewish people. John McCain has basically said that he hates all gooks and will forever. This isn't someone else saying these things, they said it directly out of their own mouths. But these people represent the system in place, so those things are virtually ignored by the free press.
 

I think if Fred doesn't do well in SC, he'll drop out.

I hate to say this, but Romney will be the Republican candidate. I turned on Rush the other day in the car while making some business calls, and Rush is in his corner, and it seems as if other right wing media is too. Unless Guliani pulls in strong down the road. But it should be one of those two.

I know the right wing media is going to blast McCain pretty hard over his immigration stuff, but what did Huckabee do to Rush Limbaugh? Rush don't like Huckabee one bit. Unfortunantley Rush has a lot of pull. He's not someone you want to piss off if you are trying to appeal to a large right wing base for votes.
 
WI Crippler said:
I think if Fred doesn't do well in SC, he'll drop out.

I hate to say this, but Romney will be the Republican candidate.
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As much as it pains me to say it I can somewhat live with Romney being the candidate as long as Huckabee or Rudy dont become the nominee.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
As much as it pains me to say it I can somewhat live with Romney being the candidate as long as Huckabee or Rudy dont become the nominee.
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Considering they would have a zero % chance at winning the general election, I could care less.
 
ARealConservative said:
I enjoy it as well, but the fact is Thompson will do well in a few southern States and Guliani will do well in the ultra liberal states.

Alaska is probably the only state Paul has a shot at winning.
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He has an outside chance in Nevada.
 
Joby said:
Now, how would deregulating the US economy make it a gangsta one?
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Becauase of reality.
When the people have power, it's regulation.
When the people give up that power to only the wealthiest people and corporations, it becomes a gansta economy.

The libertarian ideal sounds as appealing as communism just the flip side. It really does sound utopian, especially to those hearing it for the first time, I agree! But the reality is that humans do what humans do. And if you let them, they will dominiate each other TO THEIR OWN DETRIMENT.

Look at it this way. Communist took power from the people and gave it to the state. Libertarianism takes power from the people and gives it to the wealthy and (powerful). There really is no debate about it, that's just the way it is, and until we change our citizens or perhaps our genetic make-up.

Libertariansim MINUS the freedoms that allow people to take other people's freedoms - is the ideal. It's what the U.S. in part has, it's why it works.

-Mach
 

What I don't understand is why some anonymous people would decide to put out a newletter in an old congressman/third party candidate's district, put his name on it, and not put their own names on the newsletter.

It also doesn't make sense that no one has come forth and claimed responsibility for the newsletters, since that quickly dispell all attacks on Paul.

Any explanations, Paulites?
 

Actually, Ron Paul explains it all:

The Republican establishment has tried this same old smear in attempts to force him out of the party in the past, and to try and replace him with someone who would toe the party line, going back more than 10 years. However, the voters of Brazoria County in Texas have repeatedly sent him back to Congress, because they know a slime job for exactly what it is. While Dr. Paul practiced medicine he delivered lots of babies, and they WERE Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, and yes, White too. He never took Medicaid as payment, and if people could not afford to pay, he never referred them to collection agencies. A few times, he accepted payment in chickens, which he donated to the local food bank.


People here know Dr. Paul for his generosity, which he has meted out to everyone, and race has never been a consideration in the good things he has done for others. The last time this smear was brought up, his opponent outspent him in the primary 12:1, and attempted to slime him with this unfounded accusation as well, and got his clock cleaned by Dr. Paul. The citizens of Lake Jackson, Angleton, and Clute are honest, hard working, and have some of the most Conservative principles in America. They respect Dr. Paul for who he is, what he has done, and the principles he stands on. If Dr. Paul fails to secure the Republican nomination, and if he fails at a third party run, his job as Congressman is still his for as long as he wants it.

To those who still want to bring this up - Shame on you.
 
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