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And yet China realized that would have been horrible for business. I think pretty much every President since the First George Bush has mishandled our relationship with Russia to our detriment. I get that Russia does not like us for reasons other than business ones. I think it is unfortunate that what is could have been better. Russia, however, has a lot of new money and a lot of old weapons. They are still a superpower in my book whether people agree or not.
It really isn't that difficult, look at how class warfare is being fought, individual wealth creation demonized, envy for someone else's possessions, promotion of equal outcome instead of equal opportunity. This country was built on sound economic principles of free enterprise and capitalism that is now under direct assault.
You still aren't explaining it. Sorry but "its self evident" isn't a good enough argument.
Don't think about it
Don't think about it as you will experience it soon enough
Well if it works for you...
The Obama economic policy isn't working for many these days other than those who want a govt. central economy and a massive nanny state
The Obama economic policy isn't working for many these days other than those who want a govt. central economy and a massive nanny state
The rather scary thing is that the larger government gets, the worse the economy does and the more people that become dependent on a larger government and so on and so on...
Right now, apparently, 53% of all Americans dependent on the federal U.S. government for social assistance of some kind.
And as that number gets larger, more and more people will - out of fear - blindly support the politician that supports bigger and bigger government.
Imo, barring some sort of massive jolt to people, this situation will continue, slowly, for decades to come until the U.S. economy finally collapses.
I am afraid the point-of-no-return may have already passed.
An obvious objection is that the numbers bundle together federal, state and local. State and local numbers are nothing to do with a president* and any decline is the result of a combination of the economic downturn and balanced-budget provisions. But if you break down the numbers, you will see that federal employment has increased by just 16,000 under Mr Obama, hardly a socialist transformation (and not much of a Keynesian stimulus either). Over his two terms, George W. Bush added 37,000 federal jobs; Ronald Reagan added 197,000 federal jobs in his two. Bill Clinton lost 139,000! Federal employment is some 350,000 down from when Reagan left office.
The TRULY "scary thing" is the reality that far too many Americans believe the same nonsense that DA60 has posted. The graph posted here shows total government employment has dropped during Obama's time in office than.
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"Yeah, but the federal employee numbers are still higher than when Bush took office!" Ever heard of "per capita" comparisons?
1984 235.8 million people, 2,854,000 nonmilitary government employees 1 employee for every 82 citizens
1996 269.3 million people, 2786000 nonmilitary government employees 1 employee per 96 citizens
2004 292.8 million people, 2650000 nonmilitary government employees 1 employee per 110 citizens
2008 304.0 million people, 2692000 nonmilitary government employees 1 employee per 112 citizens
2010 309.3 million people, 2776000 nonmilitary government employees (with temporary census workers included) 1 employee per 111 citizens and 1 employee per 117 citizens without temporary census employees counted
July 2012 313.9 million people, 2804000 nonmilitary government employees 1 employee per 112 citizens
As the columnist in The Economist wrote: Spot the Socialists
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Since Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, US population has increased by about 9,000,000 but federal employment has risen by approximately 16,000. There are fewer federal employees per capita and lots fewer government workers across the country.
Your vision for the country and Obama's are contrary to the vision of our Founders. There is no reason for anyone who believes in the principles upon which this country was built to vote for someone who wants to fundamentally change it and that is why Obama should lose
Or in other words "You may be right about what Obama has actually done, but I KNOW what I KNOW and reality is of little consequence in my world"
I think that your version of the "vision of our Founders" has as little to do with their 'vision' as your version of President Obama has to do with reality.
I know... WTH. Where did that come from? I remember Bush used to talk like the Cold War was still going on too. I don't understand it at all.
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