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Roger Stone slams Mueller indictment, says he's prepared for the fight of his life

Cardinal said:
That's another goal post you're setting, which is the suggestion that what matters is only what matters to Mueller. Again, you don't get to establish where the goal posts are placed. I don't care which magical standard must be reached in order to impress you.
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How about that. You've spent the last couple of years taking the high road with respects to your opposition to Trump. Now you concede if Mueller's efforts are nothing more than a political effort, it's ok with you.
 
Athanasius68 said:
How about that. You've spent the last couple of years taking the high road with respects to your opposition to Trump. Now you concede if Mueller's efforts are nothing more than a political effort, it's ok with you.
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I said nothing of the kind.

And taking the high road is fantastically easy when the people taking the low road are Trump and his supporters.
 
Saladin4 said:
Again...Slowly...A Senior Campaign Official....They even have an Email to Stone....Good Job...To think trump and his goons didn't collude with stone ,Wikileaks thru Russia,,,Is Absurd...Mueller no doubt has much more evidence...Watch and See
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Sorry-- as Mueller has documented in the indictment, the Trump campaign didn't know what Wikileaks had and when it would be released. It's tough to claim conspiracy when the other party doesn't know what going on.
 
Athanasius68 said:
How about that. You've spent the last couple of years taking the high road with respects to your opposition to Trump. Now you concede if Mueller's efforts are nothing more than a political effort, it's ok with you.
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He said nothing of the sort. You are extremely dishonest.
 
Cardinal said:
I said nothing of the kind.

And taking the high road is fantastically easy when the people taking the low road are Trump and his supporters.
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Then the goalposts is the law. As Mueller continues not to charge Trump campaign officials with conspiracy to throw the 2016 election, the conclusion ought be drawn is that there was no conspiracy by the Trump campaign to throw the 2016 election.
 
poweRob said:
He said nothing of the sort. You are extremely dishonest.
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Sure he did: the indictment states that a Trump campaign official was tasked to ask Stone to find out about the next dump.
Why would that be necessary if the Trump campaign had conspired to steal them in the first place?
 
Athanasius68 said:
Then the goalposts is the law. As Mueller continues not to charge Trump campaign officials with conspiracy to throw the 2016 election, the conclusion ought be drawn is that there was no conspiracy by the Trump campaign to throw the 2016 election.
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That's your goal post, and I'm not obliged to make it my own.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Sure he did: the indictment states that a Trump campaign official was tasked to ask Stone to find out about the next dump.
Why would that be necessary if the Trump campaign had conspired to steal them in the first place?
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If you genuinely believed that's what I was saying then your reading comprehension is remarkably bad.
 
sanman said:
Why don't you speak in specifics, instead of using these deliberately vague weasel words like "meddling", "denial", "collusion", etc?

Mueller has indicted Stone over inaccuracies in his testimony to Congress. He hasn't indicted Stone for working as an agent of Russia.

If you're claiming that inaccuracies in Stone's testimony to Congress make him an agent of Russia, then make your case. But you have no case to make - so you're just resorting to the vague weasel words.
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I was quoting Roger Stone's mantra verbatim. Not sure what you're referring to, but that' what I was referring to.

Stone's rules:
“Attack, attack, attack—never defend.”
“Nothing is on the level.”
“Hate is a more powerful motivator than love.”
“Admit nothing; deny everything.”
 
Athanasius68 said:
Sure he did: the indictment states that a Trump campaign official was tasked to ask Stone to find out about the next dump.
Why would that be necessary if the Trump campaign had conspired to steal them in the first place?
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Stone knew who was responsible for the hacks and who was responsible for releasing the leaked emails. In fact he was in communication with the leakers themselves.
 
Cardinal said:
That's your goal post, and I'm not obliged to make it my own.
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You are certainly free for political reasons to object to Trump & Co. dabbling with a fellow like Stone.
But to support a federal investigation into it for political reasons.. that is no different than complaining how dictatorial Trump might be because he threatened to investigate and charge Mrs. Clinton.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Stone knew who was responsible for the hacks and who was responsible for releasing the leaked emails. In fact he was in communication with the leakers themselves.
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Maybe he did.
Not being charged for it though.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Perhaps the real target is the “senior trump campaign official” who was directed to ask stone about the leaks.
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Perhaps he is.
But then we have the problem that NO conspiracy has been established. All that guy has to say is that he simply followed the news.
Nothing illegal with reading the NY TIMES.
 
Athanasius68 said:
You are certainly free for political reasons to object to Trump & Co. dabbling with a fellow like Stone.
But to support a federal investigation into it for political reasons.. that is no different than complaining how dictatorial Trump might be because he threatened to investigate and charge Mrs. Clinton.
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Keep up those straw men.
 
trixare4kids said:
I love how you dishonestly made it look like I believe Stone is innocent of the charges outlined in the indictment.
Every citizen in this country accused of a criminal offense should fight for their honor if they believe they are innocent or their life means very little... That's what I wrote!

WWJD? He'd tell you to save your fake piety.
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this is the " im being shamed because im full of **** about law and order" Because the reality is " i would do anything to have power and rub it in the face of liberals, Even support treasonous assholes"
 
Athanasius68 said:
Perhaps he is.
But then we have the problem that NO conspiracy has been established. All that guy has to say is that he simply followed the news.
Nothing illegal with reading the NY TIMES.
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Multiple criminal conspiracies have been established by Special Counsel, it's listed in both the Russian hacking indictment, and the Russian social media indictment.

Maybe you mean to say no Americans have yet been shown to have been a part of those criminal conspiracies?
 
Athanasius68 said:
Sorry-- as Mueller has documented in the indictment, the Trump campaign didn't know what Wikileaks had and when it would be released. It's tough to claim conspiracy when the other party doesn't know what going on.
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Yeah go with that...I imagine soon you'll be claiming collusion isn't even a crime......Pathetic
 
sanman said:
Oh, I see - you're lamenting for the "good old days" of the old Soviet Union, which now no longer exists and has been replaced by the weaker and less socialistic Russia.

Because SovietMoscow good, RussianMoscow bad.

Well, then I assume you were then likewise suckered into donating to Ocasio-Cortez, who's been neighing out similar ideas to yours.

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Free everything for everyone - but imprison Stone?

When this gamesmanship is defeated, the Left will never be able to live it down. They'll spend the rest of their days claiming that they never made any claims about Russia.
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Reducto ad absurdum

Nobody said Soviet good - Russian bad.
Make no mistake about it however, Putin is a not a friend to Western countries, particularly ours.
The fact that they were communist versus state controlled capitalism doesn't really matter because we're not talking economics, we're talking foreign policy and diplomatic relations.

Constructing an AOC straw man is tantamount to thread hijacking.
 
haymarket said:
And that is on one of his better days.
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It's amazing (sometimes) to me how self-professed 'conservatives' will blithely overlook the history of those they're trying to defend, completely exposing their own mendacity and willful, gleeful ignorance and hypocrisy.
 
trixare4kids said:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ro...t-says-hes-prepared-for-the-fight-of-his-life

"Roger Stone slams Mueller indictment, says he's prepared for the fight of his life"

Good for him. A person who is not willing to fight for their own honor is a person whose life means very little.
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Well, I mean Roger Stone has no integrity or honor. This is a guy who got a tattoo of Nixon on his back after Nixon resigned in disgrace for breaking the law and lying about it.
 
trixare4kids said:
This has nothing to do with what "I" think about Stone's complicity. Read what I wrote and stop pretending you understood context.
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He is blowing smoke and flinging poop. No honor to defend, more like a thug yelling- 'Come 'n git me copper!!!!!' :roll:
 
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