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Roe has been overruled.

I said that Oregon allows abortions up until birth, that is a full term abortion.

They don’t happen because there are no late term Abortion clinics in Oregon.

Oregon has one of the the most permissive abortion laws in the nation, with no restrictions and no term limit requirements. By the way, abortios were free in Oregon paid for by the taxpayers of Oregon. ( not sure that is still the case)

Yet , Oregon has no abortion clinics that perform abortions past 24 weeks.

If an Oregon woman needs a clinic abortion past 24 weeks she has to travel to one of the 3 clinics in another state for her abortion.

From a list of the abortion clinics in Oregon:

Zero of the Planned Parenthoods provide surgical abortions past 14 weeks.

One PP abortions up to 9 weeks.

One clinic up to 12 weeks


Two clinics provide abortions up to 14 weeks.


All together 5 Clinics that only provide medical abortions ( abortion pills ) up to 9 weeks pregnancy.

There are two non Planned Parenthoods abortion clinics that provide abortions past 14 weeks.

One non Planned Parenthood up to 20.5 weeks

And another clinic ( not affiliated with Planned Parenhood ) up to 24 weeks.

Stats from my post a year ago.

 
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The Nazi leader of the Senate, Chuck Schumer has threatened violence against Supreme Court Justices. Acting on Schumer's call for violence, a democrat attempted to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh.

Terrorist group "Janes Revenge" is fire bombing abortion opponent's offices and assaulting citizens - to which Xi's man Biden said to them "I stand with you."

What a memorial to Ginsberg has to do with anything is unknown.

Still your sig implies a call for and support for insurrection and violence.

Which makes sense, since the Nazi democrats are full speed ahead on engaging in insurrection.

 
The Nazi leader of the Senate, Chuck Schumer has threatened violence against Supreme Court Justices. Acting on Schumer's call for violence, a democrat attempted to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh.

Terrorist group "Janes Revenge" is fire bombing abortion opponent's offices and assaulting citizens - to which Xi's man Biden said to them "I stand with you."

What a memorial to Ginsberg has to do with anything is unknown.

Still your sig implies a call for and support for insurrection and violence.

Which makes sense, since the Nazi democrats are full speed ahead on engaging in insurrection.

the backlash has just started. it will last for 50 years and a ton of women will now vote democratic until their rights are restored.

sucks to be you guys.
 
The Nazi leader of the Senate, Chuck Schumer has threatened violence against Supreme Court Justices. Acting on Schumer's call for violence, a democrat attempted to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh.

This is a grotesquely overt compensation for a deep-seated inferiority complex that conservatives have now after finding out their own elected representatives tried to end our system of representative democracy.

Sorry that you got fooled by the Con men but no one is going to give you an Academy award for your role as most over the top victim.
 
no, my comment is true.

Not even slightly true - ignorant propaganda.

Ghouls dishonestly use the term "zygote" in an attempt to dehumanize their victims..

We do not promote abortion, that is another Talibornigain lie, and stating the correct biological stages of a pregnancy does not dehumanize, another talibornigain lie.

The Abortion Industrial Complex brings in BILLIONS of dollars a year from taxpayer monies. .

It's not surprising that Ghouls seek to expand and grow the business. Abortion lovers, that is ghouls, will often get violent in their zeal to increase the number of abortions

Whine whine whine,

Also, never heard of biology lessons? A zygote is the first 2 weeks, and I also mentioned embryo but you must have failed to read that comment.

Nazi democrats are anti-science.

The ignorant attempt to label victims of ghouls "zygote," as if abortions occur withing 92 hours of fertilization.

But that's okay, Nazi democrats think MEN have periods and get pregnant.


Ghouls hate science - and hate women.

Erase and replace.

All I see is talibornigain lies and propaganda to justify their hatred of women's rights.

except the vast majority of people agree with Roe v. Wade. But due to the Talibornigain and their fascist/dishonest politicians we have been subjected to activist anti-rights fascist supreme court judges.

Funny, coming from the talibornigain women's rights haters.

You also cannot read traffic lights in the constitution, road safety, the right to own machine guns but that is fully OK with the right wing because those do not involve women's rights or the rights of minorities.

If the vast majority support abortion, the Ghouls have nothing to worry about.

The repeal of the unconstitutional law Roe V. Wade that was created by the Burger Court, merely returns the question to the people and the states. What we call "democracy."

But democrats hate democracy, democrats promote fascism instead.
 
You have not been insulted. You and your elected representatives have just denied women the right to manage their reproductive lives and have threatened a ban on effective contraceptives. This is an extremist position in the 21st century. Women have had the power to determine their reproductive lives usurped by a religion that has emerged out of some fetid Victorian swamp. The Christianity practiced by anti-abortion advocates is illogical, magical, fanatical, hypocritical, nosy and insulting to all women. It is a throw back to an age when women belonged to men and were allowed some freedom in cooking, church activities and children but only to the extent determined by men. Women were chattel and you are celebrating a return to that age.

"Tali-born-again" is a perfect rendition of the Christian hypocrisy of salvation by grace alone and the Taliban's religious war against women.
Not sure where you get the idea that you can tell me (or anyone else) that I've been insulted; whether I regard myself as being insulted is entirely up to me.
 
Zygotes self abort or pass through the woman’s body all the time . Many are flushed down the toilet or washed away with the dirty away or thrown away when caught by a menstral pad.

Then you would agree that Ghouls are deliberately lying when they claim that "zygotes are aborted."
(y)

In fact no abortionist has EVER aborted a zygote.

Thank you for confirming that abortion promoters - that is ghouls - are blatant liars.

Congrats on your misuse of the word Nazi. You get the Godwin award.

ROFL

Aren't you special.

No , the people do not get to deside. The states gerrymandered representatives will deside.

"decide." Along with science, democrats appear to be ignorant of spelling.

I get it, to be a ghoul one has to be ignorant, evil, or as is usually the case, both.

democracy is what Nazi democrats hate more than anything.


Of course the religious right hate democracy. They want a theocracy.

Theocracy - another term you have no grasp of.

When the people vote on what they want in the many states, that is democracy - that is what the Nazis are melting down over.

The hatred of doctors and their patients privacy by the New Supreme Court Justices is shocking


You will ever find word theocracy or fetal right to life in the United States Constitution.

Have you read the decision? Of course not.

I did read the draft opinion.

And I really think the following phrase about the domestic supply of infants within the draft opinion penned by Justices Samuel Alito and Amy Coney Barrett was totally unreasoned.

The draft refers to adoption as a reason for abortion to be overturned, a common argument from pro-forced birth groups. The draft references nearly 1 million women who were seeking to adopt in 2002, “whereas the domestic supply of infants relinquished at birth or within the first month of life and available to be adopted has become virtually nonexistent.”

Less than 1 percent of Women in the U. S. gives a newborn up for adoption.

Even if a poor woman could not travel for an abortion and continued her pregnancy to birth.
That would mean another baby reliant on welfare.


Let me repeat :
“whereas the domestic supply of infants relinquished at birth or within the first month of life and available to be adopted has become virtually nonexistent.”

I just cannot fathom that as a main reason why the Justices think that is a common argument for overturning Roe.

So the lust of democrats to kill the most defenseless on society is driven by a desire for profit by Abortion Industrial Complex and perhaps blood lust by democrats in general. There is no scientific or societal good from abortion. Quite the opposite.

Further, democrats hate and dehumanize women just as they do unborn babies. In the Erase and Replace campaign, a man is always better as a women than a woman is, whether in swimming or as defense secretary, democrat erase and replace women, using men instead. Talk about "Taliban"

Further, democrats dehumanize unborn babies because they want to kill them. Why do you think democrats dehumanize women? Worldwide, 3.7 females are aborted for every male baby. Abortion itself is part of the attack on women by the left.
 
Be interesting the reaction if a group of Muslims formed a private highschool and were entitled to public money. Very interesting.

Why shouldn't they be?

I understand the left is anti-choice, but why wouldn't they be?
 
Why shouldn't they be?

I understand the left is anti-choice, but why wouldn't they be?
Based on the scumbag cons who want religion mixed with government it certainly should be. I'm sure the christian fascists permeating the repuke party would love it. LOL!

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Not even slightly true - ignorant propaganda.

Ghouls dishonestly use the term "zygote" in an attempt to dehumanize their victims..
More talibornigain lies and distortions. There are no victims in legal and early abortion. It too is one of the pro-life women hating extremists.
The Abortion Industrial Complex brings in BILLIONS of dollars a year from taxpayer monies. .

It's not surprising that Ghouls seek to expand and grow the business. Abortion lovers, that is ghouls, will often get violent in their zeal to increase the number of abortions
More stupid lies, the government pays not a dime for abortions, it is banned from doing so, more talibornigain nonsense.

And abortions are going down you fantasist, abortions are at a lower rate than when Roe v. Wade started, it has been going down ever since 1979.

The reasons for the higher abortion figures compared to other countries in the first world is due to Talibornigain and republican extremists banning proper sex education, no healthcare that provides birth control (young women and older women can afford), no vacation days, no pregnancy leave, low wages, etc. etc. etc.

In the US teen pregnancies are about 4.5 times higher than for example the Netherlands. But then you need to give proper sex education and have the ability of underage to get birth control pills.
Nazi democrats are anti-science.
And Talibornigain extremist want to make the US anti-freedom again.
The ignorant attempt to label victims of ghouls "zygote," as if abortions occur withing 92 hours of fertilization.
the vast majority of abortions take place before week 12 (88.3%), by week 15 it is 94.6% and by week 20 it is 98.7%. And abortion does not know victims, to be a victim you have to be a person and a ZEF is not a person. This is just a Talibornigain justification for government interference into the wombs of women.
But that's okay, Nazi democrats think MEN have periods and get pregnant.


Ghouls hate science - and hate women.

Erase and replace.
Foxnews, great source.
If the vast majority support abortion, the Ghouls have nothing to worry about.
More talibornigain lies, we support pro-choice, the right of a woman to make that decision for herself. And again, women choose to have them because of the backward ideas and policies of the Talibornigains and the republicans.
The repeal of the unconstitutional law Roe V. Wade that was created by the Burger Court, merely returns the question to the people and the states. What we call "democracy."
More Talibornigain nonsense.
But democrats hate democracy, democrats promote fascism instead.
No, what democrats want is respecting rights, what Talibornigains support is fascist adjacent nonsense. Government intrusion in the private decisions of people is exactly what fascists want, and which is exactly what the Talibornigain want to have happen to all women's rights that have to do with her reproductive rights.
 
Intimidation, violence, criminality and destruction in the name of political aims is the definition of terrorism.

terrorism​
[ ter-uh-riz-uhm ]​
noun
the unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.​
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism.​
a terrorist method of governing or of resisting a government.​
intimidation or coercion by instilling fear​

So that’d be a ‘yes’.

Also:

Pro-Abortion Rioters Vandalize Fox News Studios In New York
Kevin Tober, June 25th, 2022

and also:

Pro-lifers targeted over 40 times in attacks, vandalism, harassment since Supreme Court leak, group says
There have been at least 40 known instances of pro-lifers being targeted with violence, vandalism and harassment in the weeks following the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion signaling the potential overturning of Roe v. Wade, according to a new report.​
A report released by Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America detailed 49 incidents of violence, vandalism, and harassment committed by pro-abortion activists since the May 2 leak. At least 47 of those incidents included the targeting of pro-life individuals, events, organizations, pregnancy centers, and churches.​

Are all examples of domestic terrorism, are they not?
 
Based on the scumbag cons who want religion mixed with government it certainly should be. I'm sure the christian fascists permeating the repuke party would love it. LOL!

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What an inane bit of demagoguery.

Meanwhile the Nazi democrat party continues the violent INSURRECTION.

{
Arizona lawmakers were put in a hostage situation when pro-choice protesters outside the capital building, lasting from Friday night into Saturday morning.


Police enforcement was forced to use tear gas to disperse the angry crowd following the Supreme Court’s ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade.

“Protesters threatened to break the AZ Senate entryway glass,” State Senator Wendy Rogers (R-AZ) said in a tweet. }


 
More talibornigain lies and distortions. There are no victims in legal and early abortion. It too is one of the pro-life women hating extremists.

While the statement above is fundamentally false and deceitful, we can confirm there are no ZYGOTES in abortions.

Just a desire of ghouls to dehumanize their victims.

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More stupid lies, the government pays not a dime for abortions, it is banned from doing so, more talibornigain nonsense.

The lies of the fascists are legeon.


And abortions are going down you fantasist, abortions are at a lower rate than when Roe v. Wade started, it has been going down ever since 1979.

The reasons for the higher abortion figures compared to other countries in the first world is due to Talibornigain and republican extremists banning proper sex education, no healthcare that provides birth control (young women and older women can afford), no vacation days, no pregnancy leave, low wages, etc. etc. etc.

In the US teen pregnancies are about 4.5 times higher than for example the Netherlands. But then you need to give proper sex education and have the ability of underage to get birth control pills.

And Talibornigain extremist want to make the US anti-freedom again.

the vast majority of abortions take place before week 12 (88.3%), by week 15 it is 94.6% and by week 20 it is 98.7%. And abortion does not know victims, to be a victim you have to be a person and a ZEF is not a person. This is just a Talibornigain justification for government interference into the wombs of women.

Foxnews, great source.

More talibornigain lies, we support pro-choice, the right of a woman to make that decision for herself. And again, women choose to have them because of the backward ideas and policies of the Talibornigains and the republicans.

More Talibornigain nonsense.

No, what democrats want is respecting rights, what Talibornigains support is fascist adjacent nonsense. Government intrusion in the private decisions of people is exactly what fascists want, and which is exactly what the Talibornigain want to have happen to all women's rights that have to do with her reproductive rights.

democrats are at war against women - erase and replace along with "kill em' in the womb."
 
Intimidation, violence, criminality and destruction in the name of political aims is the definition of terrorism.

terrorism​
[ ter-uh-riz-uhm ]​
noun
the unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.​
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism.​
a terrorist method of governing or of resisting a government.​
intimidation or coercion by instilling fear​

So that’d be a ‘yes’.

Also:

Pro-Abortion Rioters Vandalize Fox News Studios In New York
Kevin Tober, June 25th, 2022

and also:

Pro-lifers targeted over 40 times in attacks, vandalism, harassment since Supreme Court leak, group says
There have been at least 40 known instances of pro-lifers being targeted with violence, vandalism and harassment in the weeks following the leaked Supreme Court draft opinion signaling the potential overturning of Roe v. Wade, according to a new report.​
A report released by Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America detailed 49 incidents of violence, vandalism, and harassment committed by pro-abortion activists since the May 2 leak. At least 47 of those incidents included the targeting of pro-life individuals, events, organizations, pregnancy centers, and churches.​

Are all examples of domestic terrorism, are they not?
Unless done for a leftist cause - then it's legitimately making one's voice heard (er, with a little intimidation, harassment, violence, arson and vandalism on the side)
 
Agree with the ruling or not, overturning precedent like this is dangerous for any country.
Unless the precedent was wrong, then it'd be healthy for the country to overturn it, not dangerous.
 
No it wasn't !

Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland was blocked, seven months before the next election, because Obama is black.
Barrett's nomination "sailed through," after early voting in the 2020 presidential election was well under way.

Gore "lost" Florida in 2000 because the brother of his opponent took extraordinary measures to limit anticipated votes opposing
his brother's candidacy, followed by a one vote Supreme Court decision by a Justice who later admitted her vote was motivated by
her preference to retire from the SCOTUS during a G.O.P. POTUS's term.





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Hillary Clinton
"stated on June 4, 2015 in in a speech at Texas Southern University:
"In Florida, when Jeb Bush was governor, state authorities conducted a deeply flawed purge of voters before the presidential election in 2000" and "in 2004 a plan to purge even more voters was headed off."



Talk about an out right lie, Garland wasn't ignored because Obama was black, he was ignored because Harry Reid used the nuclear option
 
"Tali-born-again" is a perfect rendition of the Christian hypocrisy of salvation by grace alone and the Taliban's religious war against women.
With hate-filled labels like this proliferating as they are, certain self-appointed "Neros" on the left are apparently looking ahead, erecting their stakes, gathering animal hides, tar and torches, and readying themselves for their next "righteous" cause.

...and that isn't hypocrisy?
 
Unless the precedent was wrong, then it'd be healthy for the country to overturn it, not dangerous.

There is no right or wrong in the court's rulings. Stop the BS.

But as to this ruling. Only extremists judges voted to overturn Roe.
50 years ago, when Roe was upheld, the court was dominated by conservatives.

We are in bonko times. Crazy times.
 
What an inane bit of demagoguery.

Meanwhile the Nazi democrat party continues the violent INSURRECTION.

{
Arizona lawmakers were put in a hostage situation when pro-choice protesters outside the capital building, lasting from Friday night into Saturday morning.


Police enforcement was forced to use tear gas to disperse the angry crowd following the Supreme Court’s ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade.

“Protesters threatened to break the AZ Senate entryway glass,” State Senator Wendy Rogers (R-AZ) said in a tweet. }


You must be mistaken, it was simply a tourist trip.
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While the statement above is fundamentally false and deceitful, we can confirm there are no ZYGOTES in abortions.

Just a desire of ghouls to dehumanize their victims.
What victims? Your fantasy ones? Do you know how many natural abortions or failures to settle into the wall of the uterus there are? Just because you see groups of barely identifiable cells as a human being/person/victim is your problem, you can choose not to have an abortion. To ban women from having one is all kind of fascism IMO.
Why do you post a picture of someone who has more in common with the right wing extremist GOP elements?
The lies of the fascists are legeon.

Wrong as usual.
democrats are at war against women - erase and replace along with "kill em' in the womb."
Actual it is the republican talibornigain and women hating elements of the GOP who are doing that. And last time I checked, the population of the US grew in the last 60 years about 130 million people. So killing them in the womb, utter BULL crap.
 
the backlash has just started. it will last for 50 years and a ton of women will now vote democratic until their rights are restored.

sucks to be you guys.

Yeah, the Nazi democrats are
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