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Robert a Heinlein the greatest American science fiction author has been spurned by the media. I think it is because of his libertarian politics.

Hamish Howl said:
Bear's Wardogs trilogy is probably the best thing I've read in a couple of years.
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Blood Music and Darwins Radio and Children I have read. Also the Foundation Book he wrote but I wasn't impressed with their New Foundation Trilogy. It was okay.
 
Hari Seldon said:
Blood Music and Darwins Radio and Children I have read. Also the Foundation Book he wrote but I wasn't impressed with their New Foundation Trilogy. It was okay.
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The Wardogs thing is sort of "Jack London reboots Alien". Definitely worth a read.
 
Loulit01 said:
This thread is going to cost me a fortune on Amazon Books.

I was looking for Haldeman's Forever Peace and it turns out to be the 6th book in the series.
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If it's any comfort, you're in for a lot of good reading there. Best of luck with it!
 
Hamish Howl said:
It's more that he was a shitty writer. He wrote one half decent novel (Starship Troopers) and 30 years of crap.
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Disagree on his other work being crap. Hollywood turned Starship Troopers into a crap movie that was nearly opposite the book because they blew their budget on CGI. Starship Troopers fought individually, miles apart in power suits; not in masses in trenches.
 
AncientGeek said:
Disagree on his other work being crap. Hollywood turned Starship Troopers into a crap movie that was nearly opposite the book because they blew their budget on CGI. Starship Troopers fought individually, miles apart in power suits; not in masses in trenches.
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The book still sucked.
 
Loulit01 said:
This thread is going to cost me a fortune on Amazon Books.

I was looking for Haldeman's Forever Peace and it turns out to be the 6th book in the series.
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I was thinking about replacing my shelf full of Heinlein paperbacks with Kindle digital copies, so I checked price and availability. Talk about a fortune, I kept the paperbacks!
 
Hari Seldon said:
Guess who I like the best? Brin, Bear and Benford are really good. Ben Boba as well.

Tons of books based on Asimov's Foundation universe and Robot stories.
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Will Smith ruined "I Robot" worse than he ruined "I Am Legend" in movies.
 
AncientGeek said:
Disagree on his other work being crap. Hollywood turned Starship Troopers into a crap movie that was nearly opposite the book because they blew their budget on CGI. Starship Troopers fought individually, miles apart in power suits; not in masses in trenches.
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Yah, the movie thought it was refighting Beau Geste & Ft. Zinderneuf. & yes, they blew their SFX budget on the spaceships & bugs - they should have upped the SFX budget considerably, & done a lot more with the powered suits. (Or cut or sharply reduced the massed troopers & bugs scenes, which might have freed enough budget to be worthwhile with the suits.)
 
Loulit01 said:
I want in on any Heinlein discussion thread. I believe I read everything he ever wrote except Tramp Royale. And I'm going to check Amazon for a copy.

After the spectacular disaster Verhoeven made of Starship Troopers I'm in no hurry to see a SiaSL movie.

I've slowly replaced all the MMPs I bought when I was young and poor with hardcover editions. .

What did you guys think of that 2 volume biography? I was disappointed.

Asimov, Bradbury, Arthur C. Clarke.

Then Larry Niven, Frank Herbert (Whom I always found depressing for some reason. The White Plague, horrid.) But rarely a mention of Heinlein in the same breath. It's a travesty.

David Brin is pretty good.

Jules Verne and H.G. Wells go without saying.
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I got hooked by Heinlein's youth series and future histories along with "I Am Legend" by Richard Matheson and "The Stars My Destination" by Alfred Bester. I read "Podkyne of Mars" to my kids and grandkids along with " The Witches of Karres" by James Schmitz, and "The Flying Sourcerers" by David Gerrold & Larry Niven. I highly recommend Vernor Vinge's "Rainbows End", "A Fire Upon the Deep" and "A Deepness in the Sky".
 
AncientGeek said:
I got hooked by Heinlein's youth series and future histories along with "I Am Legend" by Richard Matheson and "The Stars My Destination" by Alfred Bester. I read "Podkyne of Mars" to my kids and grandkids along with " The Witches of Karres" by James Schmitz, and "The Flying Sourcerers" by David Gerrold & Larry Niven. I highly recommend Vernor Vinge's "Rainbows End", "A Fire Upon the Deep" and "A Deepness in the Sky".
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Kudos for reading character building, mind opening books to those kids. Kudos.
 
AncientGeek said:
I was thinking about replacing my shelf full of Heinlein paperbacks with Kindle digital copies, so I checked price and availability. Talk about a fortune, I kept the paperbacks!
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Tip for book nerds (I mean it as compliment) try a library book sale finder. com. Just find the one for your state. Mint condition first editions under $5. You never know what you'll find, from current bestsellers to beautiful editions of old classics people found in their attacks, to gorgeous glossy books on art and artists. I found many Heinlein hardcovers. I usually go to big sales or sales in wealthy towns. And who doesn't want to help a library?
 
craig said:
Why else is "A Stranger in a Strange Land" not a Netflix series.
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Could it have something to do with Heinlein's obsession with incest?

Great writer, other than that, if you are a teenage boy, which around half of us were. I read any Heinlein I could find at that age, but the incest made me cringe.
 
AncientGeek said:
Disagree on his other work being crap. Hollywood turned Starship Troopers into a crap movie that was nearly opposite the book because they blew their budget on CGI. Starship Troopers fought individually, miles apart in power suits; not in masses in trenches.
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If they'd done the power armor, it would look like Power Rangers.

That doesn't work very well in movies.
 
AncientGeek said:
Didn't read the book so I can't compare to the movie.
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I liked it. The sequels sucked but the first I thought combined SF with a bit of comedy plus I grew up across from Flushing Meadows. Who knew they were space ships. LOL!
 
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