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Rhodes is guilty

The thing is, Donald Trump doesn't need to be charged with incitement. It's clear he was at the top of the attempted coup plot. The attempted coup clearly obstructed a lawful congressional proceeding. If Trump is charged with any crime related to Jan. 6th, it would be this one or conspiracy to defraud the United States, or both.

The DOJ should be really emboldened after yesterday's verdicts. There is no longer any question whether or not a jury can be convinced by the facts.
Agreed and as JNug laid out, the obstruction of official proceeding charges seems particularly strong.
 
Stochastic terrorism defined yet again.
From Manson, to Jim Jones, to David Koresh, to Trump, it is a very real phenomenon and it demands a legal and criminal definition.

Well put and it should be blatantly obvious to anyone who just watches the tape of him rile up the crowd on the day. For weeks he'd been priming his followers for this then gets up on live TV and tells them to. Should be a slam dunk.
 
I believe conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding also carries a max of 20 years, as does the actual obstructing. They're facing multiple decades depending on the verdicts. Kelly Meggs is facing 60 years.
Let's hope they get everything coming to them.
A 'slap on the wrist' sentence would only embolden others to do the same or worse.
 
All 5 defendants were convicted on 1512 charges......Obstruction of a legitimate, official government proceeding and aiding or abetting.

Because there was ample evidence for that. The government doesn't need to prove a plan, or a motive to do that.
The value of the Seditious Conspiracy convictions is two fold:
- First is takes this Patriots defending the Constitution nonsense off the table. Those who participated, you were either coup plotters or you were being tugged along by your gonads by coup plotters as participants in a coup. So you can put your flags in the attic for awhile and contemplate what you were actually engaged in before ever having the unmitigated gall to fly the flag of this country again.
- Second the cold clammy hand of 1512 charges now starts groping for the necks of IDIOTS like John Eastman and Peter Navarro and Sydney Powell and Jeffery Clark and Roger Stone and Michael Flynn and even Mark Meadows and a whole bucketful of the Trumpian white collar goon squad TRASH. Those charges if made are likely to stick and they will stick relating to a series of events that already include successful Seditious Conspiracy convictions and will likely include more out of the coming Proud Boys trial.

There were two convictions of seditious conspiracy and three aquittal.
The acquittals happened because the jury did not believe there was some grand plan to overthrow the government.
!512 convictions do not reach the maximum of 20 years for Seditious Conspiracy. But they can reach 10-15 years.

As for Donnie himself, we will see if the Trumpian circle of IDIOT TRASH is brought to justice and who squeals like a pig as a result. I for one don't think that fat little hen, John Eastman is interested in doing time for Donnie.

as above.
 
The acquittals happened because the jury did not believe there was some grand plan to overthrow the government.
No, the jury didn't believe that 3 of the 5 were involved in the plan. Two were convicted of seditious CONSPIRACY .
 
No, the jury didn't believe that 3 of the 5 were involved in the plan. Two were convicted of seditious CONSPIRACY .
And the man who started the whole sedition attempt is still flying around the country telling all of his cult that he won in 2020. He needs to be held accountable or he will try to destroy democracy again.
 
No, the jury didn't believe that 3 of the 5 were involved in the plan. Two were convicted of seditious CONSPIRACY .

hello-- yes-- they could not prove the conspiracy-- the 'plan."
Heck, the DOJ didn;t have those guys who had pled guilty testify what they conspired to do together with those guys who were acquitted.
 
hello-- yes-- they could not prove the conspiracy-- the 'plan."
Heck, the DOJ didn;t have those guys who had pled guilty testify what they conspired to do together with those guys who were acquitted.
So when is the guy who incited the entire mob attack gonna be indicted?
 
Because there was ample evidence for that. The government doesn't need to prove a plan, or a motive to do that.


There were two convictions of seditious conspiracy and three aquittal.
The acquittals happened because the jury did not believe there was some grand plan to overthrow the government.
The 3 acquittals on Seditious Conspiracy charges occurred because the jury was not convinced that those 3 defendants were engaged in the Seditious Conspiracy aspects of the case as presented. Your take is frankly ABSURD.

Seditious Conspiracy was charged and convictions were gained. Deal with it. There were no Patriots attacking the Capitol on 1/6. There were Coup plotting, Coup inciting, Coup attempting dirtbags along with IDIOTS that allowed themselves to be tugged along by their gonads into a COUP attempt. So the whole miserable, idiotic cement headed bunch can put their flags back in the attic and contemplate what they actually did as opposed to what they think they did that day.

You are about to see more of them in the Proud Boys trial soon to start and you w8ll see more Seditious Conspiracy convictions and more 1512 Obstruction convictions.

I not think any of the Trump while collar Trash SCUM Ala' John Eastman and associated other SCUMBAGS will face Seditious Conspiracy charges. I do think they will face 18 Code 371 Conspiracy to commit Obstruction of an official Government Proceeding charges and 1512 Obstruction charges. The Oath Keeper convictions prove that a jury will convict on 1512 Obstruction even if you never entered the Capital on 1/6.
 
The 3 acquittals on Seditious Conspiracy charges occurred because the jury was not convinced that those 3 defendants were engaged in the Seditious Conspiracy aspects of the case as presented. Your take is frankly ABSURD.

Seditious Conspiracy was charged and convictions were gained. Deal with it. There were no Patriots attacking the Capitol on 1/6. There were Coup plotting, Coup inciting, Coup attempting dirtbags along with IDIOTS that allowed themselves to be tugged along by their gonads into a COUP attempt. So the whole miserable, idiotic cement headed bunch can put their flags back in the attic and contemplate what they actually did as opposed to what they think they did that day.

You are about to see more of them in the Proud Boys trial soon to start and you w8ll see more Seditious Conspiracy convictions and more 1512 Obstruction convictions.

I not think any of the Trump while collar Trash SCUM Ala' John Eastman and associated other SCUMBAGS will face Seditious Conspiracy charges. I do think they will face 18 Code 371 Conspiracy to commit Obstruction of an official Government Proceeding charges and 1512 Obstruction charges. The Oath Keeper convictions prove that a jury will convict on 1512 Obstruction even if you never entered the Capital on 1/6.
Thank you!
 
The 3 acquittals on Seditious Conspiracy charges occurred because the jury was not convinced that those 3 defendants were engaged in the Seditious Conspiracy aspects of the case as presented. Your take is frankly ABSURD.
You mean if 5 people are charged and tried for committing a crime together, and one person is acquitted, they rest aren't all automatically acquitted? ;)
 
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