• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

RFK Jr., the most dangerous nepo baby in American history, testified today not under oath


RFK Jr is a mad man. His deceased father, mother, uncles, and aunts would roll over in their graves if they had to listen to this lunatic.
But he's right. We are the sickest country in the world more chronic diseases and the CDC did absolutely nothing they probably are benefiting off of suffering. MSNBC most certainly yes. The pharmaceutical industry spends billions of dollars on advertising and MSNBC gets a chunk of it.

I'm liking Kennedy more and more. I wasn't crazy about him.
 

RFK Jr is a mad man. His deceased father, mother, uncles, and aunts would roll over in their graves if they had to listen to this lunatic.

I disagree.

I think RFK Jr. is a man who's had his eyes on the Medical/Pharmaceutical Complex, and other "co-conspirators" who have been making Americans both mentally and physically sicker and thereby dependent on those industries.

Notice how we never hear anything about cures anymore? Not since the polio vaccine ended that disease? Why? Because there is no profit in cures. The profits lay in perpetual treatments, hospitalizations, and medical evaluations. If you cure someone, then you can't make any more money off of them.

For example, why do you think so many psychiatrists, psychologists, surgeons, and pharmaceutical companies advocate for "transgenderism?" Because of the profits in perpetual mental and physical healthcare needs, via surgeries, hormone treatments, counseling services, and so on.

This also includes our Food industries, with all the "additives," and "sweeteners," that compel us to overeat leading to childhood and adult obesity.

RFK is advocating for transparency, investigation, and public awareness of this profiteering at our health's expense.
 
Last edited:
Isn't it weird how quickly the MAGAs can not care about dead children who were living and breathing?

Well, until it's their own kids which in this case will probably be a higher percentage of the MAGA or anti-vax crowd.

You guys better wake the **** up and understand the evil that we're really fighting.
 
Because there is no profit in cures
There are also countless ailments for which there is NO cure.

There are treatments and means to manage symptoms and mitigate symptoms.

Ignorance leads individuals to believe everything can be magically “cured”


RFK is popular among ignorant people that likely can’t pass a high school science class.
 
This much is basically true.
RFK is advocating for transparency, investigation, and public awareness of this profiteering at our health's expense.
THIS I don't get. He's not advocating for any of that stuff. Instead he's firing people if they don't withdraw useful vaccines -- which are close to "cures" -- while promoting profiteering on at least different bizarre, ineffective treatments for the measles they could have prevented. His notion of "investigation" -- according to him -- is asking somebody if they're trustworthy and then firing them if they say no. Frickin' Sherlock Holmes there, stopping millions of dollars of real research.
 
What RFK Jr is really advocating is stopping preventative measures and waiting till horrible stuff happens and then using things that don't work.

That's a quack.

Evidently the dumbasses have never heard that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Because they're dumbasses.
 

He's not right.
He swims in raw sewage.
 
MAGA loves to promote conspiracies.
 
That's fine. Then that's what he should concentrate on. Fighting against life saving vaccines is not the way to go.
 

RFK Jr is a mad man. His deceased father, mother, uncles, and aunts would roll over in their graves if they had to listen to this lunatic.
He's the most unqualified person for his position.
 
You think that the for profit insurance companies would go along with that?
 
Calls into question the merits of the 'Western model', where the doctor is paid for services when not healthy, vs. the 'Chinese model', where you pay your doctor while you are healthy, and stop paying him when you aren't, to keep his focus and motivation in the right direction, but the 'Chinese model' model has legitimate viability questions surrounding it.

Some of the increases in disease and obesity rates in children are very concerning and what they are foretelling for the population's future.

"RFK is advocating for transparency, investigation, and public awareness" for these to find possible root causes and what might be done to mediate them, I'm not seeing a problem here, I'm seeing that as a positive step in the right direction.

As always, there's an excessive amount of FUD and misinformation being spewed, it is, after all, DC in action.
One of particular note is the false conflation that a lack of a mandatory CDC recommendation for a vaccine is the same as banning that vaccine - sorry, but no, it just simply isn't; this is typical of the gross mischaracterization, to the point of being blatantly dishonest, all for nothing more than political ends.

Being that it is DC in action, there are some who are damned determined to have the government dictate down to its people as much as possible.
"As the government knows better than its people" </sarcasm>
And there are others who don't want the government dictate down to its people as much as possible.

You can put me in the latter group.
 
Under the ACA, insurance companies MUST pay for preventative medications and treatments - namely vaccines - that are recommended by the CDC.

Strip the CDC recommendation away and you’ve also stripped the legal mandate that vaccines be covered by insurance.

Effectively making it so that people CANNOT get a vaccine.
 
Nobody is hiding cures. That is ridiculous.
When they cut basic research, and leave all the research to companies that are focused on the profit to be made, they're hiding cures.
 
Calls into question the merits of the 'Western model'
It's ironic that a bunch of liberals have been saying that forever.

They haven't been saying to kill vaccines though. The thing that has saved millions of lives.
 
When they cut basic research, and leave all the research to companies that are focused on the profit to be made, they're hiding cures.
Who is hiding a cure?

And a cure for what?


Be specific.
 
RFK fired the CDC director for not being obedient to the Administration.
So tell me, what happens when a subordinate can't fully support the policy position which their superior has set?
 
Apart from the substantial money and practicality issues, there's the simple problem that it makes no sense not to recommend the vaccines! These are updated Covid vaccines, like updated flu shots. They prevent LONG COVID, which is a very expensive problem for our country. Covid is still causing nearly 20,000 deaths annually - about the same as firearms (including suicides) - and you know all the fundamental rights people in this country will tell you you're supposed to give up to prevent that many deaths and make our country a safe place for Brownshirts to beat trans people to death. Here I'm not asking for anyone's rights to be stripped away; I just want a working shot in the supermarket like last year.
 
So tell me, what happens when a subordinate can't fully support the policy position which their superior has set?
Conversations to understand why. And see if the subordinate is correct in their findings.

Not blind firing due to a lack of allegiance.

You either hire competent people that bring knowledge and skill to the table, or you hire people based upon blind allegiance.

We know which one this Administration values.

CDC director goes against allegiance, fired.

People put out bad job and economic reports - fired.

This Administration isn’t basing their decisions on the validity of reports and findings, they value allegiance.
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…