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We have a voluntary military. They are not firing at American soil or citizens.
Ye know I find it weird, Scarecrow, that you can consider Socialism, as the tool of these men (Stalin, Che, Mao), the demon that needs to be banished. However, I am assure you are highly protective of Gun-Rights. Why do you not apply the logic that guns do not kill people, people kill people to Socialism?
I must remind you all. Socialism did not make these names (Stalin, Che, Mao), these names branded their own Socialism.
Before you call someone dishonest you may want to be more informed of the topic on which you speak.
Then explain to me how Your capitalism is more voluntary than my socialism. Please I am interested to know more.
You may want to tell me after you pay your income tax and your food tax and your gas tax and your inheritance tax and your tax on tax. let me know which of those is voluntary for you. I will stop paying that as well.
Mostly you are correct. However, there are those whom have a lineage of serving this Nation-State, and they are drawn to their role as the defenders of the Union.
Do remember that soldiers are made out of pharmacists during times of great conflict. Deserters to the banner of the US Military will be held as traitors.
This is an intelligent post. I like it. That is why I keep saying that there are bastardizations of socialism. These forms are not socialism in fact. They are concoctions thrown up by violent revolution. They make a tyrant leader.
I must reminds you that just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not correct. All socialists have a serious disconnect understanding history, since they want to pretend that some mysterious economic force rules the world when in the reality what rules human actions is the people making those events happen.
Yes, Stalin, Cheese, Mayo, Pol Pot, Castro, Hitler, Hussein, Mugabe, and all the rest have modified some nonsensical generic whitebread of socialism to fit their own agenda of power acquisition and murder. It's what socialism is for.
Socialism is a religion for the ignorant masses and like all religions it is used as a tool by the cunning manipulators to control those masses, gain power, and serve their own selfish purposes.
Once you've matured to the point that you can recognize socialism for the religion that it is, you can begin maybe to divorce yourself from the Ruby Slippers and Kool-Aid aspects of it. Most do not, however.
Haha. Please explain to me how Capitalism and Adam Smith's Invisible hand cannot be described as "some mysterious economic force"?
Please show me how this is only an attribute of Socialism and not Capitalism or any other form of Economy/Gov't.
I don't understand the "Ruby Slippers and Kool-Aid" aspects you are talking about. You somehow manage to compare Wizard of Oz with Socialism?
You will have to explain to me what fantasy version of socialism you subscribe to. If it's some dreamy existence where everyone agrees to to a utilitarian utopia of pure equality, then what's the point debating? We might as well debate about if superman could beat up batman.
I'm speaking of the real kind of socialism we see in the real world. Where people are forced to submit to a "greater good"
what do various forms of taxation have to do with your point or even a discussion of capitalism for that matter?
I live in a Utopian Socialistic community. I guess that would be the socialism I subscribe too. We all do live to the greater good.
I live in a Utopian Socialistic community. I guess that would be the socialism I subscribe too.
We all do live to the greater good.
Can a capitalist community exist within a socialist state?
Well it could be Democratic Socialist which supports heavily regulated capitalism.
What you're trying to say is the equivalent of saying that Southern Baptists aren't Christians, nor are Lutherans, Mormons (Mormons are christians, just ask one), Methodists, Catholics, or Branch Davidians.
The fact is that they're all Christians, and all the dictators I listed are all socialists.
Just because you want to pretend that their brand of socialism is so different from your brand of socialism that they can't possibly be socialists doesn't make it true.
You want to pretend your evil religion isn't responsible for the deaths of over a hundred million people just as today's Christians want to pretend that the practice of Christianity isn't responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions over the millenia.
You're both wrong.
Well it could be Democratic Socialist which supports heavily regulated capitalism.
Haha. Please explain to me how Capitalism and Adam Smith's Invisible hand cannot be described as "some mysterious economic force"?
I don't understand the "Ruby Slippers and Kool-Aid" aspects you are talking about. You somehow manage to compare Wizard of Oz with Socialism?
boy does that sound familiar!
It is simply not socialism.You need to read up.
I say again that you are speaking from the American myth of what socialism is. The myth is not truth because one says it is. It is myth.
The lies and distortions that Americans believe to be socialism and communism are enough to fill a 1000 barrels with.
Marx said that before Communism could exist two things had to occur basically. First, capitalism had to conquere the globe, and this is very close to being a reality. Second, societies had to evolve through different forms of government.
That is to say the evolution of government is: feudalism->industrialization->capitalism->socialism->communism. Europe is ahead of the game as they are older and already in socialism.
Very good post. However, reform be what it may, Capitalists are searching out ever cheaper labor and operating costs, and in doing so are knocking down borders and national barriers. We live in a global economy now. How much longer before the haves and the have nots exist, absent a Middle Class which is under constant attack.
capitalism is voluntary association
The socialism you advocate through government is not voluntary.
I have an excellent picture of socialism:
30,000,000 civillians murdered, Germany WWII.
50,000,000 civillians murdered, USSR
20,000,000 civillians murdered, China
3,000,000 civillians murdered, Cambodia
I'd have to search out how many people were murdered by Castro and Che Gueverra, and the other wonderful socialists of South America, but right off the top of my head, socialism is responsible for a minimum of 103,000,000 dead people in less than fifty years.
If an American Revolution were to occur, and for some unforeseen events led to the toppling of the current regime the rebuilding process would not turn into a Marxist Communism, as to rebuild one would require the most productive style of Economy-- Capitalism.
The power of Capitalism draws humans, as it is our nature to provide for our people and for our family.
You are aware that the word "Nazi" was short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei , or National Socialist German Workers Party, right?
See there? That magic word? "Socialist".
All socialists have a serious disconnect understanding history, since they want to pretend that some mysterious economic force rules the world when in the reality what rules human actions is the people making those events happen.
Yes, Stalin, Cheese, Mayo, Pol Pot, Castro, Hitler, Hussein, Mugabe, and all the rest have modified some nonsensical generic whitebread of socialism to fit their own agenda of power acquisition and murder. It's what socialism is for.
I'm speaking of the real kind of socialism we see in the real world. Where people are forced to submit to a "greater good"
What you're trying to say is the equivalent of saying that Southern Baptists aren't Christians, nor are Lutherans, Mormons (Mormons are christians, just ask one), Methodists, Catholics, or Branch Davidians.
The fact is that they're all Christians, and all the dictators I listed are all socialists.
You're both wrong.
I think you have those switched around, mate.
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