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dimensionallava said:
No, Im a communist
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Not sure why you would brag about that. If the Twentieth Century demonstrated anything it was that communism is an oppressive and evil system. Or, lemme guess, you still cling to the Marxian fantasy that the communist state will just wither away lol
 
Fletch said:
But we do need an enforceable boarder. If that can only be achieved with a wall, then that is what we need.
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Well, I'm pretty positive that a giant wall won't solve the problem.

Plus, a wall going across the entire goddamn border would be extremely expensive to build.
 
TheGoverness said:
Well, I'm pretty positive that a giant wall won't solve the problem.

Plus, a wall going across the entire goddamn border would be extremely expensive to build.
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What will solve the problem?

Do you think it's cheap having a completely porous border?
 
TheGoverness said:
Well, I'm pretty positive that a giant wall won't solve the problem.

Plus, a wall going across the entire goddamn border would be extremely expensive to build.
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Money is no object (as liberals argue here relentlessly). Again, think of it as an infrastructure program that will hire thousands of union workers to build the thing and thousands more unionized boarder guards to man it once it is finished. Who cares if it stops a single illegal, it will put people to work and that's a good thing, right?

and yes, that's sarcasm :)
 
dimensionallava said:
other than the fact that we already spend $18 billion on immigration enforcement? they are electing trump based on the building of a wall, they chant "Build the wall" in the streets at the top of their lungs, a wall which is estimated at around $18 billion dollars to build, and atleast $2 billion a year to enforce.
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Imagine a self-identified communist being against a wall, any wall - you could lose your card for that.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Imagine a self-identified communist being against a wall, any wall - you could lose your card for that.
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Are you arguing for, or against the wall with this statement?
 
dimensionallava said:
Are you arguing for, or against the wall with this statement?
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I'm commenting on your apparent outrage related to the building and/or funding of a wall. I appreciate that as a communist you're more used to having to build walls to keep people in, but a wall is still just a wall, right?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Imagine a self-identified communist being against a wall, any wall - you could lose your card for that.
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Commies build walls to keep their prisoners...er...people in. Communists never have immigration problems.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm commenting on your apparent outrage related to the building and/or funding of a wall. I appreciate that as a communist you're more used to having to build walls to keep people in, but a wall is still just a wall, right?
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tell that to karl

"Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workingmen of all countries, unite!" Karl Marx

"Wars between capitalist states are, as a rule, the outcome of their competition on the world market, for each state seeks not only to secure its existing markets, but also to conquer new ones. In this, the subjugation of foreign peoples and countries plays a prominent role. These wars result furthermore from the incessant race for armaments by militarism, one of the chief instruments of bourgeois class rule and of the economic and political subjugation of the working class." Marx

"As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection, as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a state, is no longer necessary." Engels
 
dimensionallava said:
tell that to karl

"Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workingmen of all countries, unite!" Karl Marx

"Wars between capitalist states are, as a rule, the outcome of their competition on the world market, for each state seeks not only to secure its existing markets, but also to conquer new ones. In this, the subjugation of foreign peoples and countries plays a prominent role. These wars result furthermore from the incessant race for armaments by militarism, one of the chief instruments of bourgeois class rule and of the economic and political subjugation of the working class." Marx

"As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection, as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a state, is no longer necessary." Engels
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I guess I deserved those gems for actually thinking a communist could rationally discuss an issue and stay on topic.

Have a good day in fantasyland.
 
dimensionallava said:
tell that to karl

"Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workingmen of all countries, unite!" Karl Marx

"Wars between capitalist states are, as a rule, the outcome of their competition on the world market, for each state seeks not only to secure its existing markets, but also to conquer new ones. In this, the subjugation of foreign peoples and countries plays a prominent role. These wars result furthermore from the incessant race for armaments by militarism, one of the chief instruments of bourgeois class rule and of the economic and political subjugation of the working class." Marx

"As soon as there is no longer any social class to be held in subjection, as soon as class rule, and the individual struggle for existence based upon our present anarchy in production, with the collisions and excesses arising from these, are removed, nothing more remains to be repressed, and a special repressive force, a state, is no longer necessary." Engels
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Which is what makes the fact that communist states are so tolitarian all the more ironic.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Which is what makes the fact that communist states are so tolitarian all the more ironic.
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totalitarianism is fascism.... which is what trump supporters are begging for
 
dimensionallava said:
other than the fact that we already spend $18 billion on immigration enforcement? they are electing trump based on the building of a wall, they chant "Build the wall" in the streets at the top of their lungs, a wall which is estimated at around $18 billion dollars to build, and atleast $2 billion a year to enforce.
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The only part of this rant that is accurate is that they are electing Trump. Nobody is supporting Trump based on the wall.
 
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