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Republicans Hypocrites on Debt Ceiling

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And one President (who was a junior Senator from Illinois), who called the need to raise it a "total lack of leadership."
 

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There are 104 current members of the U.S. House of Representatives who are A, members of the Republican Party; and B, voted to increase the debt ceiling, at least once, under George W. Bush, without hostage threats.

104 Republicans Who Are In Congress Today Voted To Increase The Debt Ceiling Under Bush Without Hostage Threats

So what's different now? If it's only the party of the current President, that would be bad enough. It would make them hypocrites, as well as fiscally irresponsible.

So tell me, the 15 times in modern history when the dems threatened to shutdown the government (versus three now for the repubs), does that make them super hypocrites in your book?
 

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the real hypocrisy is coming from the op of this thread.

both parties have done these things.
 

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so you are saying that obama made a statement that the debt cieling should not be raised while he was a senator? did he have a reason for this? i will try to find this statement
 

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so you are saying that obama made a statement that the debt cieling should not be raised while he was a senator? did he have a reason for this? i will try to find this statement

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

SENATOR BARACK OBAMA, MARCH 2006

ps, he and the entire democrat party voted against raising the debt ceiling.
 

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so you are saying that obama made a statement that the debt cieling should not be raised while he was a senator? did he have a reason for this? i will try to find this statement

two people have provided you the quote. I noticed you thanked the hypocrite that started this thread, which makes you one as well...especially as you ran away from the thread once it was pointed out how Obama is a piece of crap talking out of both sides of his face.
 

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"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

SENATOR BARACK OBAMA, MARCH 2006

ps, he and the entire democrat party voted against raising the debt ceiling.

No link, of course.

But I wonder if there is a difference between in 2006 (when Bush was cutting taxes for Paris Hilton and fighting his vanity wars without funding them) and 2013. Didn't something happen in late 2007 early 2008 that affected our economy significantly?

Remember that?

I bet you don't want to.
 

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Yep, you need to do your homework before anybody can accept your quotes. You know the reputation of tea partiers for making stuff up.

By the way, I wonder if anything happened between 2006 and 2013 that might require changing one's views on the debt ceiling. Can you think of such an event, maybe around late 2007?
 

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maybe it's at the same place where Reagan compared Bin Laden to ur Founding fathers. :)
( that's an inside joke- head of Joaquin said that in a post last week-lol)

But here's the link where the babbling idiot from Illinois said that.
Obama's 2006 debt ceiling speech.

Choke on it.

Oh dear. It really bothers you to actually back up your purported quotes. I know, I know, Tea partiers are used to just making stuff up, it stings to have to actually cite a source.

Now, can you think of some event or other in 2007-2008 that might account for Obama changing his views on the debt? Think hard. Maybe you should google that.
 

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Oh dear. It really bothers you to actually back up your purported quotes. I know, I know, Tea partiers are used to just making stuff up, it stings to have to actually cite a source.

Now, can you think of some event or other in 2007-2008 that might account for Obama changing his views on the debt? Think hard. Maybe you should google that.

Bush spent like a drunken sailor, and Obama thinks that's a great idea. Now what happened in 2007-2008 that should have changed his mind? Google that.
 

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Yep, you need to do your homework before anybody can accept your quotes. You know the reputation of tea partiers for making stuff up.

By the way, I wonder if anything happened between 2006 and 2013 that might require changing one's views on the debt ceiling. Can you think of such an event, maybe around late 2007?


the event that happened is the election. Obama is now talking out of the other side of his face now that he is the president.
 

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Bush spent like a drunken sailor, and Obama thinks that's a great idea. Now what happened in 2007-2008 that should have changed his mind? Google that.

Hmm, I wonder. Any macroeconomic event and deflationary cycle as a result of Bush's failed conservative policies?

I guess if such a thing had happened, economists would have discovered it by now. Maybe you could research that!
 

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the event that happened is the election. Obama is now talking out of the other side of his face now that he is the president.

Yes the election and something else I seem to recall. Some sort of macroeconomic event or other, that might have (I emphasize might) required us to rethink deficit spending in light of huge unemployment and credit bottlenecks. Maybe you can google that for us. You're good at that.
 

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Hmm, I wonder. Any macroeconomic event and deflationary cycle as a result of Bush's failed conservative policies?

I guess if such a thing had happened, economists would have discovered it by now. Maybe you could research that!

Why is Obama doing the same as Bush, if Bush's policies failed?
 

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So tell me, the 15 times in modern history when the dems threatened to shutdown the government (versus three now for the repubs), does that make them super hypocrites in your book?

More lies. The Dems NEVER threatened ANYTHING because of the raising of the debt ceiling. They only voted against it when they were in a minority, because only Republicans are so stupid that they think not raising it is an option. It really is very stupid.
 

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Yes the election and something else I seem to recall. Some sort of macroeconomic event or other, that might have (I emphasize might) required us to rethink deficit spending in light of huge unemployment and credit bottlenecks. Maybe you can google that for us. You're good at that.

I can't think of any reason to forgive his hypocrisy. you can, but your lips are firmly planted on his ass anyway.
 

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I can't think of any reason to forgive his hypocrisy. you can, but your lips are firmly planted on his ass anyway.

So you're unaware of some economic event that happened between 2006 and 2013 that might affect one's view of government spending?

I think we've identified your problem!
 

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So you're unaware of some economic event that happened between 2006 and 2013 that might affect one's view of government spending?

I think we've identified your problem!

If we can default in 2006, we can certainly default after a market collapse.

your hypocrisy is not convincing.
 

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If we can default in 2006, we can certainly default after a market collapse.

your hypocrisy is not convincing.

Hmmm, so you think the economy in 2006 is the same as that of 2013.

I think we're zeroing in on your confusion. Keep going.
 

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Hmmm, so you think the economy in 2006 is the same as that of 2013.

I think we're zeroing in on your confusion. Keep going.

you are a joke for supporting the presidents hypocrisy so yes, I think we are zeroing in on things.
 
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