According to the mulitple recounts, Republicans stole Florida by . . .. a majority.
1) I am an American
2) The Electoral College is useless
3) Most agree that Florida was stolen by republicans in some way.
then I fail to see the basis for your complaint.
Unless, you are trying to muddy the issue. This is a common debate tactic.
I don't particularly care about the charges of whether one race or demographic was favored over another. What I do care about is that voters were flat out lied to, and that sort of thing should be prosecuted as fraud.
But even before Schurick or Henson appear in court, political analysts and leading members of Maryland’s black community said Friday that the image painted in the indictment of a Republican strategy session to target Maryland’s black voters could resonate in the 2012 presidential race, and possibly long after in state politics.
“We know this goes on behind closed doors and this is going to make us more aware for a long time,” said Gerald Stansbury, president of the Maryland state conference of the NAACP. “It’s an appalling situation and it’s going to open a lot of people’s eyes, not just here, but everywhere.”
Here is your original post.
"Voters were flat out lied to" during the election campaign and, as I said, no one who voted for BHO seems to mind all that much.
But the key part of this latest charge is this.
And that's the entire strategy and one that has been used previously. All Democrats have to do is plant the idea that this is going on and it will cement the idea further that the extremely important Black voting bloc will continue to follow the Democrats. It no long matters whether the story is true or not,
There's an old political saying that if you throw enough crap against the side of a barn (concerning your political opponent) some of it is bound to stick. This is one of those moments..
yes, they were lied to in order to lower their voter turn out.
There is, of course, a major difference in flat out lying and a viewpoint or opinion. Now I don't particularly agree with the NAACP's viewpoint, but I can see where they could hold it and have a reference to events as supporting evidence.
to recap, having two different views and interpretations of events, both supported by the fact = different opinions.
telling something that is patently untrue and can easily be checked vs the facts = lying
lying in an area where it impacts and reduces civil rights = a huge problem and reason for outrage.
And where is your evidence?
But there are those who are offering opinion as fact.
Then lets see your facts.
You did actually bother to read the article I posted, right?
Does this mean that Democrats are going be prosecuted when military votes are suppressed?
Certitude: n. The knowledge/confidence that you have not been sending nude/semi-nude pictures of yourself to random women on the internet.
President Obama's Justice Department continues to stonewall inquiries about why it dropped a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party.
The episode—which Bartle Bull, a former civil rights lawyer and publisher of the left-wing Village Voice, calls "the most blatant form of voter intimidation I've ever seen"—began on Election Day 2008. Mr. Bull and others witnessed two Black Panthers in paramilitary garb at a polling place near downtown Philadelphia. (Some of this behavior is on YouTube.)
One of them, they say, brandished a nightstick at the entrance and pointed it at voters and both made racial threats. Mr. Bull says he heard one yell "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!"
In fact I quoted part of it to you.
Can you answer the question?
Election Night robo-calls to mostly black neighborhoods in Baltimore and Washington’s eastern Maryland suburbs. The calls told tens of thousands of residents to “relax” and not worry about voting, because Democrats had already won.
Regarding Florida...does anyone have any instances of actual voter denial from 2000? I recall interviews with several protestors who claimed their rights where violated but when asked which voting precint they were turned away from or where they attempted to vote they couldnt provide either. I recall protestors carrying signs decrying a return to 'Jim Crow" laws but when asked what Jim Crow laws were or how they were returning to Jim Crow era laws couldnt answer. It was obvious they were part of Jessie Jacksons bussed in out of town outrage.
Ive long maintained that I would support (hell..I'll financially back) a lawsuit by any person who was actually legally allowed to vote in a district but was turned away. The only caveat being that if that person is lying they should go to prison. Other than bull**** claims, Ive never seen anyone documented that was denied their right to vote.
Florida was a fiasco...but then so was Wisconsin with students stuffing ballot boxes, New Mexico, Washington state with voter fraud, Ohio with homeless people being rounded up and fed hotmeals and given cigarettesa dn alcohol while others filled out their ballots for them, or Ohio where the courts ordered polling places to re-open to allow people to vote. Florida to my knowledge has never had an unabridged county by county including military absentee ballot full voter recount. its always been counties in republican or democrat heavy areas targeted for recount.
The Republicans say they rejected that proposal. How do we not know that this wasn't the actions of an individual?
The editorial standards of the Washington Post hit a new low with this one. The article cites a criminal indictment whose "centerpiece" is a single document presented at a meeting of a Republican "brain trust" outlining a strategy that even the state prosecutor appointed by the Democrat governor admitted was rejected by those present at the meeting. The article provides further "evidence" of a "Republican doctrine" to suppress the black vote by quoting a representative of the NAACP and referencing a statement by a political science professor that there "may be" such a doctrine.
In light of this shoddy reporting, when do we get the Post article concerning the Democrat doctrine to register dead people, felons, illegal aliens, and Mary Poppins?
Here it is from the article.
That is accusations, not evidence!
This sort of dirty politics, accusations without substance, has been going on for years but often they are just accusations, and eventually urban myths,
The aftermath of these accusations was alluded to in the article, and thats the whole point in making them.
Regarding Florida...does anyone have any instances of actual voter denial from 2000?
It's only okay to intimidate voters if you are blocking "Whitey"
John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com
Stupid and illiterate people should not be allowed to vote that would mean that Obama would not be in office
In California it is illegal aliens that flock to vote by mail because you can register and vote and there are no checks yo make sure you are of legal age or here legally.
Voting is a privilege that that should be closely monitored to insure that voters can at least read English.
Today there are so many people who are high school graduates that are illiterate it's not funny and most of them are minorities because they come from one parent families and that one parent is also illiterate.
Most high school graduates these days don't have any clue about the Constitution.
I registered to vote by mail when I retired and moved back to California. I did it over the Web and it's been almost 4 years and they didn't check a damn thing.
I could have been a member of the Taliban anf they would never know or care for that matter.
Here's some. Notice how it's almost entirely blacks whose votes were prevented. Not to mention how the voting machines in white and republican areas were set to return any ballots with mistakes on them, so the ballots could be corrected and resubmitted, and those in black areas were set to keep and simply discard incorrect ballots, without informing the voters whose votes were being ignored.
It's only okay to intimidate voters if you are blocking "Whitey"
John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com
In Florida, 2000, some dems around campus didn't bother because the vote was called dem in the afternoon by major networks.
Two guys in silly costumes. SO scawy. Dere gonna get me, eeeeeee.
Bartle Bull, a former civil rights lawyer and publisher of the left-wing Village Voice, calls "the most blatant form of voter intimidation I've ever seen"
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