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Rep. McKinney's parting shot: Bill to impeach Bush

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Rep. McKinney's always had spunk, I liked that, too bad she's also crazy in la cabeza. :roll:

So long Cynthia, good-riddance! :cool:














Rep. McKinney's parting shot: Bill to impeach Bush - CNN.com

WASHINGTON (AP) -- In what was likely her final legislative act in Congress, outgoing Georgia Rep. Cynthia McKinney announced a bill Friday to impeach President Bush.

The legislation has no chance of passing and serves as a symbolic parting shot not only at Bush but also at Democratic leaders. Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, has made clear that she will not entertain proposals to sanction Bush and has warned the liberal wing of her party against making political hay of impeachment.

McKinney, a Democrat who drew national headlines in March when she struck a Capitol police officer, has long said that Bush was never legitimately elected. In introducing her legislation in the final hours of the current Congress, she said Bush had violated his oath of office to defend the Constitution and the nation's laws.

In the bill, she accused Bush of misleading Congress on the war in Iraq and violating privacy laws with his domestic spying program...
 
The Klan ought to hire her-she does more to create negative perceptions of blacks than probably anyone else in America
 
I think we can all agree that she's simply downright insane?
 
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(The Klan ought to hire her-she does more to create negative perceptions of blacks than probably anyone else in America)

I disagree, I think Sharpton and Jackson do more to discredit Black Americans than this woman has ever done.
 
All humor and sarcasm aside, there are those (even on this forum) who consider a Bush impeachment serious business. It's laughable, but not to them. Billo and jfuh will love this news. :lol:
 
All humor and sarcasm aside, there are those (even on this forum) who consider a Bush impeachment serious business. It's laughable, but not to them. Billo and jfuh will love this news. :lol:

there are some people who still live in the fantasy land in which Gore actually was able to steal the 00 election in Florida too
 
A good reason to impeach Bush can be found in the following Senate Committee report:
Report of the Select Committee on Inteligence on Postwar findings about Iraq's WMD's programs and links to terrorism and how they compare with pre-war assessments together with additional views.

September 8, 2006

A. Determination to go to War Before Congressional Authorization

Misleading Congress and the American Public Concerning the Decision to go to
War, Determination to Go to War Before Congressional Authorization


Our investigation has found that President Bush and members of his Administration made numerous public statements to the effect that a decision had not been made to invade Iraq, when in fact the record indicates that such a decision had been made.

Among other things, we have found: Immediately after the September 11attacks, President Bush and members of his Administration displayed an immediate inclination to blame Iraq - the President asked Richard Clarke to determine if Hussein is “linked in any way; ” White House officials instructed Wesley Clarke to state that the attack was “connected to Saddam Hussein;” and Undersecretary of Defense Douglas Feith proposed that the U.S. select “a non al-Qaeda target like Iraq. ”

The Downing Street Minutes provide unrebutted documentary evidence that in the spring and summer of 2002 it was understood by the Blair government that the Bush Administration had irrevocably decided to invade Iraq. These documents reveal that President Bush had told Prime Minster Blair “when we have dealt with Afghanistan, we must come back to Iraq ” (Fall, 2001); “Condi’s enthusiasm for regime change is undimmed” (March 14, 2002); the U.S. has “assumed regime change as a means of eliminating Iraq’s WMD threat ” (March 25, 2002) and; and “Bush wanted to remove Saddam through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD ” and “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy ” (July 23, 2002).

Among other things, we have also found: The “marketing” campaign for the war included the creation of the so-called “White House Iraq Group; ” the “rollout of speeches and documents;” the release of a white paper inaccurately describing a and gathering danger ” of Iraq’s allegedly “reconstituted” nuclear weapons program; and the deliberate downplaying of the risks of occupation. The plan by the Bush and Blair Administration sought to use the UN to “wrongfoot Saddam inspectors and the UN SCRs [Security Council Resolutions]” in the winter of and spring of 2003, constitutes further evidence that the decision to invade Iraq been made. This is reflected by the fact that Defense Policy Board Member, Richard Perle admitted the U.S. “would attack Iraq even if UN inspectors fail to find weapons;” Vice President Cheney reportedly acknowledged to Hans Blix that the U.S. ready to discredit inspectors in favor of disarmament; ” and President Bush was infuriated” by reports of Iraq ’s cooperating with UN inspectors. In addition, it has been disclosed that at a January 31, 2003 meeting with Prime Minister Blair, President Bush was so concerned by the failure to locate WMD that he proposed the U.S. "fly . . . UC reconnaissance aircraft planes with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in UN colours” and that "if Saddam fired on them he would be in breach [of UN resolutions]"

Unauthorized War Actions and Provocations

Our investigation has found that there is evidence the Bush Administration redeployed military assets in the immediate vicinity of Iraq and conducted bombing raids on Iraq in 2002 in possible violation of the War Powers Resolution, Pub. L. No. 93-148, and laws prohibiting the Misuse of government Funds, 31QU.S.C.. 1301. ”

Among other things, we have found: A military commander told Senator Bob Graham in February 2002 that “[w]e are moving military and intelligence personnel and resources out of Afghanistan to get ready for a future war in Iraq; ” and “y the end of July Bush had approved some 30 projects that would eventually cost $700 million.” The bombing campaign engaged in by the U.S. and Great Britain in 2002 and early 2003 involved more than 21,000 sorties and hundreds of thousands of pounds of bombs, has been described as “a full air offensive;” and a former U.S. combat veteran stated that based on what he had witnessed, [2002],“[t]he war had already begun.”
If this isn't prima facia evidence he should be impeached, then I we have a serious problem in this country with Americans who approve of un-accountability from our elected officials.
 
Billo, I mean this with all sincerety. I hope there is an impeachment investigation and that charges are brought. I hope you get what you want.
 
It will be interesting to see what response this generates among both those who agree with it and those who disagree.

I, for one, disagree with it.

BTW Billo, that quote does not seem very credible to me.

I would like to know what exactly this committee is, and who the members of it are.
 
It will be interesting to see what response this generates among both those who agree with it and those who disagree.

I, for one, disagree with it.

BTW Billo, that quote does not seem very credible to me.

I would like to know what exactly this committee is, and who the members of it are.

I was hoping billo would have given us a link-it might have been that moonbat conspiracy among the dems
 
Well when your part is in power in Congress, you guys can fight over the decision to impeach him or not...oh wait you already are.Most of your Dem. friends are against it and say it's a silly idea.Come on guys, strick to your amazing 100 hour plan.
 
Originally posted by CurrentAffairs:
Billo, I mean this with all sincerety. I hope there is an impeachment investigation and that charges are brought. I hope you get what you want.
I don't think he will be impeached. But I would be satisfied if, at least, they held some hearings to discuss the issue. There is enough evidence out there to have an official investigation on. Albeit, nothing will come from it. Congress is still just a bunch of ******s.
 
Originally posted by The Mark:
It will be interesting to see what response this generates among both those who agree with it and those who disagree.

I, for one, disagree with it.

BTW Billo, that quote does not seem very credible to me.

I would like to know what exactly this committee is, and who the members of it are.
The best I can do is a jpeg of the cover.
I downloaded it a while ago but didn't save the link.
All I have is the 151 page pdf.

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Here's some more from that report...

B. Mis-stating and Manipulating the Intelligence to Justify Preemptive War
Links to September 11 and al Qaeda


Our investigation has found that President Bush and members of his Administration made numerous false statements regarding linkages between Iraq and the September 11 attacks, and also may have sought to manipulate intelligence to support these statements. This includes mis-statements concerning general linkages between Iraq and al Qaeda; an alleged meeting between Mohammed Atta and Iraqi Intelligence officials; and allegations that Iraq was training al Qaeda members to use chemical and biological weapons.

With regard to general linkages between Iraq and al Qaeda, members of the Bush Administration ignored at least five separate reports from within their own Administration, including:
• a report shortly after September 11 prepared by Counterterrorism Coordinator
• Richard Clarke finding no connection with Iraq that was “bounced back,” with hissuperiors saying
• a September 21, 2001 classified intelligence briefing that “the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the “[wlhether in desperation Saddam would share chemical or biological weapons with Al Qa ’ida.”
• a January, 2003 CIA report that the “Intelligence Community has no credibleinformation that Baghdad had foreknowledge of the 11 September attacks or any other al-Qaida strike. ”


Given this record, it is particularly hard to justify Administration statements such as Secretary Rumsfeld’s September 22, 2002 claim that he had “bulletproof” evidence of ties between Saddam and al Qaeda. The October 2002 NIE, which gave a “Low Confidence” rating to the notion of attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda. ” A June 21, 2002 CIA report which found “no conclusive evidence of cooperation on specific terrorist operations. ”

The evidence that members of the Bush Administration sought to manipulate pressure intelligence officials on this linkage includes Deputy Director of the CIA Richard Kerr’s report that people at the CIA have stated they have been “pushed too hard” on this point and felt “too much pressure; ” a CIA ombudsman who reported unprecedented “hammering” on this issue; an FBI official who stated that the “Bush administration...was misleading the public in implying there was a close connection between Iraq and al Qaeda]; ” and former CIA Agent Paul Pillar ’s statement that “intelligence was misused publicly to justify decisions that had been already made. ”

We also have found evidence that Vice President Cheney’s December 9, 2001statement that the meeting between Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi intelligence official Prague had been “pretty well confirmed ” was either knowingly or recklessly false. This includes the fact that Czech government officials had expressed doubts the meeting had occurred; both the CIA and FBI had concluded that “the meeting probably not take place; ” and Administration records indicated that Mr. Atta was in Virginia Beach, Virginia at the time of the meeting. There is also evidence that the Vice President’s office put undue pressure on the CIA to substantiate this meeting, with Deputy Director of the CIA insisting to Mr. Libby, “I’m not going back to the well. We’ve done our work.”

Statements by President Bush on October 7, 2002 that “Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases;” and Secretary Powell February 5, 2003, “trac[ing] the story of a senior terrorist operative telling how provided training in these weapons to Al-Quaeda;” with both saying this relationship goes back for “decades” were also false. Among other things, we have that a declassified Defense lntelligece Agency report from February 2002 indicated that the source of this information, lbn al-Shaykh al-Libi, “was intentionally misleading the debriefers in making these claims; ” that it was unlikely any relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda went back decades since “Saddam’s regime is intensely secular and wary of Islamic revolutionary movements; ’ a classified CIA report found that Mr. al-Libi was “not in a position to know if any training had taken place;” and Administration officials knew or should have known he fabricated his statements to avoid torture.

Resumed Efforts to Acquire Nuclear Weapons

Our investigation has found that President Bush and members of his Administration made false statements regarding Iraq ’s effort to acquire nuclear weapons, including general claims regarding such acquisition; assertions based on claims by Saddam Hussein ’s son-in-law; and a statement by Mr. Bush that Iraq was within six months of obtaining a nuclear weapon.

The Bush Administration appears to have ignored numerous intelligence reports indicating that there was no credible evidence of an ongoing nuclear program in Iraq, including:

A 1999 IAEA report that there was “no indication that Iraq possesses nuclear Weapons. . . or any practical capability . for the production of such material. ”

British intelligence officials confirmation that Iraq ’s nuclear weapon ’s program was “effectively frozen. ” ” the pre-2002 CIA NIE indicating that Iraq did not have and was not trying to reacquire nuclear weapons; and the State Department INR’s finding that it lacked “persuasive evidence that Baghdad has launched a coherent effort to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program. ’ Given this record, it is difficult to defend statements such as Mr. Cheney’s March 16, 2003 declaration that “we believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. ”

There is also evidence that the Vice President ’s statement on August 26, 2002 that the Administration has learned about Hussein ’s efforts to reacquire nuclear weapons from “Saddam’s own son-in-law,” Hussein Kamel al-Majid, was knowingly or recklessly false. This is first because Kamel was killed in February, 1996, so he “could have sourced what U.S. officials ‘now know;“’ and second because Kamel’s testimony to the IAEA was, according to The Washington Post “the reverse of Cheney’s description” which was debriefed to U.S. officials.

President Bush’s statement on September 7, 2002 that the IAEA had issued a new report that Iraq was “six months away from developing a [nuclear] weapon ” also appears to be false and misleading, as The Washington Post found “there was no new IAEA report. . Bush cast as present evidence the contents of a report from 1996, updated in 1998 and 1999. In those accounts, the IAEA described the history of an Iraqi nuclear weapons program that arms inspectors had systematically destroyed
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Originally posted by Turtledude:
I was hoping billo would have given us a link-it might have been that moonbat conspiracy among the Democrats
If I could, I would.
 
Rep. McKinney's parting shot: Bill to impeach Bush

She is the flower of the democratic party..No wait that is the "Ice Princess" Hillary....:rofl
 
Here's a little more from that report...


Aluminum Tubes

Our investigation has found that President Bush and members of his Administration made numerous false statements that Iraq was seeking to acquire aluminum tubes in order to build a uranium centrifuge and leaked classified information to the press in order to further buttress their arguments for war. Members of the Bush Administration appear to have ignored reports and information provided by at least five agencies and foreign intelligence sources, including:

several reports by the Department of Energy which found that the tubes were “too narrow, too heavy, to long - to be of much practical use in a centrifuge.

State Department’s INR [Bureau of Intelligence and Research], which considers it far more likely that the tubes are intended for another purpose. ”
The Defense Department which found the tubes “were perfectly usable for rockets.”

British Intelligence which found the tubes would require “substantial reengineering” to serve as centrifuges.

The International Atomic Energy Agency which found “all evidence points to that this is for the rockets ” a one-page summary of National Intelligence Estimate personally delivered to President Bush in October, 2002, concluding that both the Energy and State Departments believed the aluminum tubes were “intended for conventional weapons.”

Statements by the Vice President and Ms. Rice that they knew about Iraq ’s proposed use of the tubes for centrifuges with “absolute certainty” and that the tubes were “only really suited for nuclear weapons programs” are particularly questionable, since the dispute within the Administration has been described as a “holy war” and Administration sources have stated that Ms. Rice “was aware of the differences of opinion” and that her statements were “just a lie. ”

The evidence also shows that a September 8 lead article in The New York Times and a July 29, 2002 article in The Washington Times included classified
information leaked by Administration officials. Among other things, The New York Times article quoted “anonymous” Administration officials as stating that “Iraq has stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb;” and The Washington Times article stated, “U.S. intelligence agencies believe the tubing is an essential component of Iraq ’s plans to enrich radioactive uranium to the point where it could be used to fashion a nuclear bomb.” Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald has also filed documents detailing that President Bush authorized the leaking of classified information to the press in order to undermine Ambassador Wilson.

Acquisition of Uranium from Niger

We have found that President Bush and members of his Administration made numerous false statements that Iraq had sought to acquire enriched uranium from Niger. In particular, President Bush ’s statements and certifications before and to Congress may constitute Making a False Statement to Congress in violation of 18 U.S.C. Q 1001.

There is evidence that members of the Bush Administration, including the Vice
President, have elevated intelligence information which supports this claim without adequate scrutiny, and may have applied undue pressure to intelligence officials to reach these conclusions. Among other things, a former high level CIA official has stated that when CIA personnel were unable to verify these claims Cheney became dissatisfied and it “was the beginning of what turned out to be a year-long tug-of-war between the C.I.A and the Vice-President ’s office; ” another senior official reported that CIA analysts got “pounded on, day after day ” on these issues; two former CIA officials explained that information on the charge was “passed directly to Washington without vetting them in the [U.S.] Embassy ” in Rome; and former CIA agent Tyler Drumheller told 60 Minutes “[t]he war in Iraq was coming. And they [the Administration] were looking for intelligence to fit into that policy. ”

The Bush Administration ignored numerous, contrary intelligence findings making these false statements, including:

Ambassador Wilson’s finding that “no one had signed such a document.” the CIA’s warning to to Ms. Rice directly that “the evidence is weak. ” the State Department ’s finding that the charges were “highly dubious.” statements by French Intelligence authorities that the story “doesn’t make any sense.” The conclusion of the National Intelligence Council, delivered to the White House January, 2003, that the Niger uranium claim was unequivocally false.

The President’s own statement in his State of the Union that “the British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa ” is particularly difficult to defend, given that, among other the CIA had told the President ’s staff before his October 7, 2002 speech that President should not be a fact witness on this [Niger-Uranium] issue; ” the CIA raised several concerns about the fragmentary nature of the intelligence ” before the of the Union; and after the speech his Administration informed the UN it “cannot confirm [the uranium] reports ” (which the IAEA quickly found to be “not authentic”).

Chemical and Biological Weapons

Our investigation has found that President Bush and members of his Administration have made numerous false statements regarding Iraq ’s Chemical and biological weapons capability. These include false statements regarding Iraq ’s possession of chemical weapons generally; a charge by an Iraqi defector that he had helped bury significant amounts of chemical and other weapons; the existence of mobile chemical weapons laboratories; and Iraq ’s ability to deliver such weapons using unmanned aerial vehicles.

We have found evidence that members of the Bush Administration made misleading statements regarding Iraq ’s chemical weapons capability generally, even though they were aware of contrary intelligence provide by the DIA, the CIA, and the Department. Among other things, the September 2002 DIA report found“[tlhere reliable information on whether Iraq is producing or stockpiling chemical weapons, or where Iraq has or will establish its chemical warfare agent production facilities;” as early as 1995 the CIA had been informed that “after the gulf war, Iraq destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stock; ’ and the State Department ’s INR flagged many of Secretary Powell ’s statements regarding chemical weapons as“ weak.” There is also evidence the Administration ’s September 2002 statement an Iraqi defector, Adnan lhsan Saeed al-Haeder, had secretly helped bury tons of biological and chemical weapons was also knowingly and recklessly made, as the CIA determined by December 2001 that “the intelligence officer concluded that al-Haideri made up the entire story, apparently in the hopes of securing a visa. ”

Further, there is evidence of the misleading nature of the Bush Administration ’s mis-statements regarding mobile chemical weapons laboratories by virtue of the fact they ignored numerous contrary information provided by the German and British Intelligence, as well as CIA officials. Among other things, German Intelligence informed the Administration“[tlhis [Curveball] was not substantial evidence . . . [w]e clear we could not verify the things he said; ”British Intelligence officials informed the CIA they are “not convinced that Curveball is a wholly reliable source; ” shortly before Mr. Powell ’s speech, the CIA doctor who had met with Curveball that he “was deemed a fabricator, ” only to be told by his superior that “this going to happen regardless of what Curveball said or didn ’t say.” Given the and credibility of these concerns, it is particularly difficult to defend the President’s statement in his January 28, 2003 State of the Union Address that as a of information provided by defectors “we know that Iraq, in the late199Os, had several mobile biological weapons labs. designed to produce germ warfare agents can be moved from place to a place to evade inspectors. ”

Finally in this regard, there is also evidence that then Secretary of State Powell and President Bush also made knowingly or recklessly false claims regarding Iraq ’s unmanned aerial vehicles. Contrary to their assertions, the Air Force was found to“not agree that Iraq is developing UAVs primarily intended to be delivery platforms for chemical and biological (CBW) agents; ” while the CIA “believed that the attempted purchase of the mapping software. may have been inadvertent. ” . .
I'll let the reader decide for him or herself what to make of this.
 
That report is nothing new - it was authored by the Senate intelligence committee, and you can pretty clearly tell which parts were written by Dems and which parts were written by Reps. The conclusion of the paper as a whole was primarily that the cause for the discrepancy was systemic intelligence failure and deception by exiles of the Iraqi National Congress.

And to get back on the mckinney topic...shes also been active lately pushing her theory that Bush caused 9/11.

Good career prospects there...:roll:
 
Originally posted by RightatNYU:
That report is nothing new - it was authored by the Senate intelligence committee, and you can pretty clearly tell which parts were written by Democrats and which parts were written by Republicans. The conclusion of the paper as a whole was primarily that the cause for the discrepancy was systemic intelligence failure and deception by exiles of the Iraqi National Congress.

And to get back on the mckinney topic...shes also been active lately pushing her theory that Bush caused 9/11.

Good career prospects there...
So you believe in un-checked powers of the Presidency? Bush can do whatever he pleases without any accountability? If you do disagree with that statement, then tell me, where do you draw the line? What does he have to do before you say, "Alright, that's enough!"

That report says a lot about Bush. However, I do agree he was not complicit in 9/11. He just used it as an opportunity, instead of a tragedy. And as a result, we are now borderline "totalitarian".
 
So you believe in un-checked powers of the Presidency? Bush can do whatever he pleases without any accountability?

That was extrapolated from...?
If you do disagree with that statement, then tell me, where do you draw the line?

I think Bush can do whatever the Constitution grants him the power to do. So far, seems to me like he's met that standard - in the cases where there have been questions about whether or not his admin crossed the line, he's won some, and he's lost some. Those that he's lost, he's pursued through the appropriate channels and resolved.

I think its somewhat telling (whether its telling about the nitpicking of those suing the gov or about the complete lack of opposition by democrats is based on your political persuasion) that for nearly every instance where Bush's actions have been challenged as overstepping his authority, he has gone to Congress and gotten approval for what he desired to do.

What does he have to do before you say, "Alright, that's enough!"

Get a blowjob. :mrgreen: :2razz:

And as a result, we are now borderline "totalitarian".

The fact that people could actually consider Bush's domestic policies to be "totalitarian" is a ringing endorsement for how much better off the world is as a result of the US winning the Cold War.
 
And to get back on the mckinney topic...shes also been active lately pushing her theory that Bush caused 9/11.

Good career prospects there...:roll:

Considering the source of so much of her funding, I would say this shows that she does not bite the hand that feeds her.

Which might actually guarantee her a continued career in at least some capacity.

Are there any current ads in Georgia papers under the heading "useful idiot"?
 
If September 11th happened and Bush wasn't president and someone else was and didn't go to war, you all know the **** that president would get and EVERYONE would hate him for not retaliating.We were attacked, by simple law of nature, we attack back.Bush didnt us 9/11 as an excuse.To do what? Get oil and finish his daddys job right? That has to be the most ridiculous reasoning some of you people can come up with.

He's not mentally retarded, he knew people would come to hate him for it, but that's just how it works.If Iran personally attacked us, guess where we're going? If NK missiles didn't suck and actually reach osomehwere like Alaska and California, guess where were going?

It's just how it works, guys.
 
Considering the source of so much of her funding, I would say this shows that she does not bite the hand that feeds her.

Which might actually guarantee her a continued career in at least some capacity.

Are there any current ads in Georgia papers under the heading "useful idiot"?

I don't know about that, but I can tell you for certain the reason her bill didn't get passed....

"The Jews have bought everybody. Jews. J-E-W-S."

:lol:
 
there are some people who still live in the fantasy land in which Gore actually was able to steal the 00 election in Florida too

Are you refering to the parallel universe called Bizarro World?
 
If September 11th happened and Bush wasn't president and someone else was and didn't go to war, you all know the **** that president would get and EVERYONE would hate him for not retaliating.We were attacked, by simple law of nature, we attack back.Bush didnt us 9/11 as an excuse.To do what? Get oil and finish his daddys job right? That has to be the most ridiculous reasoning some of you people can come up with.
My oh my! Seems like you're one of those posters who is confused about who was responsible for 9-11? I cannot recall any movement of any kind that was against President Bush invading Afghanistan and finding the people who were responsible for 9-11, can you?

Now please enlighten this Forum with what 9-11 had to do with Iraq???

He's not mentally retarded, he knew people would come to hate him for it, but that's just how it works.If Iran personally attacked us, guess where we're going? If NK missiles didn't suck and actually reach osomehwere like Alaska and California, guess where were going?

It's just how it works, guys.
So tell us then why we went to Iraq? They attacked us when, exactly? Who was hurt? What damage did Saddam inflict on America? How many Americans did he kill? What WMDs did he use when he attacked us?

So you don't think Bush was motivated in the least by Iraqi oil? Really?

I find it remarkeable that anyone who reads or even listens to TV can actually believe that Iraq and 9-11 have any connection whatsoever!

Please amuse us with your conspiracy theory.
 
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