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Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

  • YES! Companies should have the right! Its weeds out bad folks

    Votes: 9 13.8%

  • NO! My finances should NOT dictate what company hires me!

    Votes: 38 58.5%

  • YES! In certain circumstances w/ jobs that handle money directly

    Votes: 19 29.2%

  • Screw you and your Noodle race! Quit asking me things!

    Votes: 2 3.1%
  • Total voters
    65
megaprogman said:
Even a daycare provider. But I think those people should go through a psych analysis anyway.



Narcoleptsy and Drug addiction have an impact on job performance.
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My point is who decides whats needed? If I owned a deli, I'd run the same checks. It's my business and it's my right to know who is working for me. If you don't want to be subjected to my inquiry then work elsewhere.



I am confused though, Are you seriously saying that a day care center shouldn't be allowed to run a background check on folks and exclude felons and other criminals? :shock:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
My point is who decides whats needed? If I owned a deli, I'd run the same checks. It's my business and it's my right to know who is working for me. If you don't want to be subjected to my inquiry then work elsewhere.
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Government agencies.

ReverendHellh0und said:
I am confused though, Are you seriously saying that a day care center shouldn't be allowed to run a background check on folks and exclude felons and other criminals? :shock:
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I am of the opinion that a person who has done their time in jail and has had good behavior, shown character while incarcerated, passes a psych analysis, is on good terms with a probation officer, and otherwise shows that they are interested in becoming a good citizen should be given a second chance.
 
megaprogman said:
Government agencies.
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Even though there is an "app" for that?


Background Check App for iPhone does exactly what you think it does






By forcing me to not know they served time? I'm sorry, but if I ran a day care, this dirtbags rehabilitation should not be at risk to the childeren I am in charge of....



How would I know if this guy met all your criteria if I wasn't allowed to run a background check on them?
 

You can select what you wish to search on when you do a background check.
 

Not judging by the people I know who work there.
 

Yup, in just the same way that asking people questions at an interview is an invasion or privacy. How dare they ask me if I graduated from school, thats none of their business! How dare they ask me if I mind coming in on time or occasionally working overtime. How dare they ask me why I left my last job. How dare they ask me if I enjoy working in a fast pased enviorment. Thats all an invasion of privacy, it's none of their business!
 
masonkiller said:
Companies should be able to use whatever criteria they want to decide how they choose employees. If you don't like what the employer is judging you on, then don't apply there.
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This is true and and a good thing. When I interview, I'm also checking out the company. Yes, there are places where I would not want to work. Mostly places that would want to check my credit for a rule-of-thumb basis on my character.
 

Having a degree, coming in on time, why you left your last job, and being able to work in a fast paced environment are job-related concerns...and you provide the answer yourself, anyway. That's not at all the same as requiring a credit check for a non-financial job.
 
When I got the job at SOE - for video game creation - I had to have a credit check and background check. I really didn't see the big deal, didn't even think twice about it. But maybe since I have a govt clearance, I just don't give a **** who checks that **** cause it's already been gone through with a fine tooth comb by the FBI. In fact, I seem to recall telling them that I could save them some time and money by giving them my clearance info and pointing them in the direction of the FBI to verify it. LOL

But anywho... my job didn't have jack **** to do with money. It did, however, have to do with intellectual property in a highly lucrative and competitive software environment. I just honestly didn't give a second thought to them doing a background and credit check. But as I said, maybe I'm just immune to such concerns since I am used to them.

However, if I did have concerns about them doing those checks, the simple answer to it would have been... "No." So I'm still failing to see the issue some folks have with it.
 
rivrrat said:
However, if I did have concerns about them doing those checks, the simple answer to it would have been... "No." So I'm still failing to see the issue some folks have with it.
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Because every time someone says "Yes" to this sort of thing for a job where it isn't relevant, it takes a step closer to becoming a cultural norm, where people EXPECT this sort of crap in order to get any job. The negative effect this has on privacy in general is more important than your faith-based dogma that businesses have some "right" to do whatever the hell they want.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
It might show up on your criminal background check. I was using hyperbole like you. don't mind me.
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What hyperbole? I used the example of sexual harassment to highlight the absurdity of the libertarian view that businesses should be able to require anything they want...and the libertarians here STILL agreed that employers should be allowed to require sexual favors as a condition for a job. In other words, it was an entirely accurate description of their view, not hyperbole.
 


well then by your logic by restricting private business from background checks of potential employers, you are enabling pedophiles. :thumbs:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
well then by your logic by restricting private business from background checks of potential employers, you are enabling pedophiles. :thumbs:
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Please point me to the post where I said that potential employers shouldn't be allowed to check to see if potential employees have a criminal history. Kthxbai. :thumbs:
 


That 19 year-old should be on their parents' insurance or buy their own cheapo Blue Cross policy for $59/mo. ANYONE can find $59/mo. I betcha most teens spend more than that on fast food, computers, games etc. I stand by every word of my post. If you prepare from an early age you will be fine. Instead of buying crap like bikes, cd's, computer games etc, buy stocks, bonds, gold, real estate or something. Prepare. Take self-responsibility. NEVER depend on anyone else to take care of you. I am self-made. Was "rich" by age 21 just by proper investing. Anyone can do it. Some people choose to spend all their money on stupid crap like new cars every year, the latest everything etc. Some choose to save and invest. Everyone has something in their life whether it is an illness, accident, bad investment, whatever. I meant exactly what I said--failing to plan=planning to fail. People should live WAY below their means. Instead, most live check to check. VERY foolish... It was not a personal attack on anyone. It was my truth.
 
Why should the 19 year old be on their parents insurance? A parent has no obligation to care for their children after age 18.

I agree that people should think about the long term. People should try to prepare.

But as the old saying goes, s*** happens.

Bad credit does not automatically equal deadbeat.

If I were an employer and I checked I would ask them about it. I would judge them by the situation. Not by what numbers say.
 

They should be on their parents' insurance until they have their own. And they should pay their parents whatever it costs. Kids get away with too much today. Once they are 18 they should be completely self-responsible. If their parents are putting them through college they should have a job to pay them back. I know kids who cleaned houses for $100 for 3 hours work. They paid back their parents and are very responsible. Today's kids, not so much. Yes, crap happens but when you're prepared it's not so crappy. Funny how anyone could defend someone with a bad credit score. Potential employees lie and have every excuse under the sun why they are deadbeats. I've heard it all.
 
I agree. Kids are coddled too much thes days but be for real. I'm not talking about the kid from suberbia having mom and dad pay for college.
I'm talking about the 18 year old that just graduaed high school, that grew up in the projects or trailor park with not stability who worked, has his or her own place, is working, paying taxes and doing the right thing an then gets hit by a car and now he's in debt from hospital bills.
It's the employers perrogotive.
I would personally hear them out (I'm a good judge of charcter) and want to know what happended. You can't bull**** a bull****er and I know when people are the real deal.
You're making things too black and white when the real world is many times shades of grey.
 
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