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Redistribution of wealth and the Miracle of Obama A closer look

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Those who pay attention know what I am about to tell you but wonder how many have put it all together in one neat little package.

We know that from the beginning Obama has talked about the Redistribution of wealth and we have heard many of Obama's Czars and advisers talk about sharing the wealth and how fair it is to take from the rich and give to the poor.

Of course this is Socialism/Marxism and where Obama is doing his level best to push us like it or not.

Obama's current focus is on those who he considers rich. Those who make over $250,000 a year and most people outside of the Federal Government make less than half that so it sounds fare.

As I have said time and again those people are the ones who pay most ot the Taxes, start most new small businesses, and create most of the new jobs, but lets put that aside for the purpose of this discussion and focus on Redistribution as it relates to Obama directly.

Redistribution of wealth was proposed by Karl Marx as a more equitable economic system than Capitalism.

This system was never tried before Marx died in England in 1893, but it has been tried many times and history shows us that every attempt to use it has failed because it kills incentive and the system collapses in a short period of time.

Let's now look at Obama. In 2009 Obama filed taxes showing that his adjusted gross income was $5,623,690 in 2009 - mostly from best-selling book sales. Not bad really.

He gave $329,100 to 40 different charities and in addition, to that Obamas donated his $1.4 million Nobel Peace Prize also.

So we have come to the conclusion that Obama really practices what he preaches when it comes to the Socialist/Marxist model he is always promoting as a great thing.

Fare enough analysis and understandable, or it? When we take a closer look at some of the other fact we know it seems the old adage that "Charity begins at home" seems to fall apart when we look at Obama and those whom many think he should have helped.

Obama has an Aunt Fifty-eight-year-old Zeituni Onyango, who was ordered by deported 4years ago by a US immigration judge. She lived for years illegally in Boston on welfare and in public housing. Well long story short she didn't leave and then the "Obama Miracle" intervened and the same immigration judge gives her political asylum saying she would be in jeopardy of death if she went back to Kenya.

Wow what a miraculous thing to happen out of a clear blue sky and the only thing at work here is out of fairness and justice. Wow again.

Now let's take a quick look at George Hussein Onyango Obama.

Who the hell is that you ask? Well he's Obama's Half Brother living in Kenya.

Oh I left out, he lives in a shake with out running water no real bathroom facilities no central air or heat His shake has been called by some a mud hut.

The man lives on a reported whole $12 a year.

Now i see this as a much worse condition than Obama's Aunt in the in the rundown Boston housing projects.

From what I have been able to find there is no evidence that Obama has given one thin dime to either of these two seemingly destitute relatives of this millionaire.

So as I look at the whole picture now taking all things in to consideration I have to conclude that a simple description of all of this information rolled up could come to one word that explains it all.

But to just say hypocrite in not enough in my book.

I must point out a few little historical fact. Socialism/Marxism/Communism has indeed failed miserably every time it has been tried. Now you may say it has worked for China and you would be misinformed.

China's system has undergone some changes to avoid the inevitable collapse it was facing and has slowly moved into a semi capitalistic system and moving closer to it all the time.

One thing all the failed nations have in common with Obama, and that is those in control get rich or maintain a lavish life style while the common peoples living standard goes down hill until the inevitable collapse of the system.

So I invite all of you to do just a little research before you attack and call me names to see if i got any of this wrong.
 

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Those who pay attention know what I am about to tell you but wonder how many have put it all together in one neat little package.

We know that from the beginning Obama has talked about the Redistribution of wealth and we have heard many of Obama's Czars and advisers talk about sharing the wealth and how fair it is to take from the rich and give to the poor.

Of course this is Socialism/Marxism and where Obama is doing his level best to push us like it or not.

Obama's current focus is on those who he considers rich. Those who make over $250,000 a year and most people outside of the Federal Government make less than half that so it sounds fare.

As I have said time and again those people are the ones who pay most ot the Taxes, start most new small businesses, and create most of the new jobs, but lets put that aside for the purpose of this discussion and focus on Redistribution as it relates to Obama directly.

Redistribution of wealth was proposed by Karl Marx as a more equitable economic system than Capitalism.

This system was never tried before Marx died in England in 1893, but it has been tried many times and history shows us that every attempt to use it has failed because it kills incentive and the system collapses in a short period of time.

Let's now look at Obama. In 2009 Obama filed taxes showing that his adjusted gross income was $5,623,690 in 2009 - mostly from best-selling book sales. Not bad really.

He gave $329,100 to 40 different charities and in addition, to that Obamas donated his $1.4 million Nobel Peace Prize also.

So we have come to the conclusion that Obama really practices what he preaches when it comes to the Socialist/Marxist model he is always promoting as a great thing.

Fare enough analysis and understandable, or it? When we take a closer look at some of the other fact we know it seems the old adage that "Charity begins at home" seems to fall apart when we look at Obama and those whom many think he should have helped.

Obama has an Aunt Fifty-eight-year-old Zeituni Onyango, who was ordered by deported 4years ago by a US immigration judge. She lived for years illegally in Boston on welfare and in public housing. Well long story short she didn't leave and then the "Obama Miracle" intervened and the same immigration judge gives her political asylum saying she would be in jeopardy of death if she went back to Kenya.

Wow what a miraculous thing to happen out of a clear blue sky and the only thing at work here is out of fairness and justice. Wow again.

Now let's take a quick look at George Hussein Onyango Obama.

Who the hell is that you ask? Well he's Obama's Half Brother living in Kenya.

Oh I left out, he lives in a shake with out running water no real bathroom facilities no central air or heat His shake has been called by some a mud hut.

The man lives on a reported whole $12 a year.

Now i see this as a much worse condition than Obama's Aunt in the in the rundown Boston housing projects.

From what I have been able to find there is no evidence that Obama has given one thin dime to either of these two seemingly destitute relatives of this millionaire.

So as I look at the whole picture now taking all things in to consideration I have to conclude that a simple description of all of this information rolled up could come to one word that explains it all.

But to just say hypocrite in not enough in my book.

I must point out a few little historical fact. Socialism/Marxism/Communism has indeed failed miserably every time it has been tried. Now you may say it has worked for China and you would be misinformed.

China's system has undergone some changes to avoid the inevitable collapse it was facing and has slowly moved into a semi capitalistic system and moving closer to it all the time.

One thing all the failed nations have in common with Obama, and that is those in control get rich or maintain a lavish life style while the common peoples living standard goes down hill until the inevitable collapse of the system.

So I invite all of you to do just a little research before you attack and call me names to see if i got any of this wrong.
so, in a nutshell, you believe a progressive tax is wealth redistribution. now, you tell me just exactly how the common man, (middle class and below?) is losing out with a progressive tax. and please provide examples of a representative republic or democray, such as ours, collapsing.

this post was nothing but a false accusastion about obama. buh-bye.
 

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Obama Half-Brother Busted – Sex Assault | Sweetness & Light

Obama's brother is a bad actor. I don't blame him for letting the guy alone. You can't help some folks.

The rich in this country don't mind taking money from the middle and lower class so I really don't see
a problem turning the tide. Without a workforce the rich would not be that. It's not taking the riches $
but holding then accountable for the costs of doing business in this country. Corporate Welfare Information Center
 

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so, in a nutshell, you believe a progressive tax is wealth redistribution. now, you tell me just exactly how the common man, (middle class and below?) is losing out with a progressive tax. and please provide examples of a representative republic or democray, such as ours, collapsing.

this post was nothing but a false accusastion about obama. buh-bye.
First it is the middle class who suffer the most when taxes go up and the jobless rate with.

In recent years, credits for low- and middle-income families have grown so much that a family of four making as much as $50,000 will owe no federal income tax for 2009,
Source: Half of Americans pay no federal income tax - Business - Personal finance - Tax Tactics - msnbc.com

So they don't need any help, with Taxes but those who pay the vast majority of Taxes also create the jobs and start the Businesses.

Last we have never been pushed like Trifecta of Doom Obama Pelosi, Reid are doing into the Socialist/Marxist Nation Obama and his minions talk about wanting. Obama has made one mistake after another on the economy and has done virtually no good for anyone other than put more people on food stamps and out of work.

Name an example of Obama's dumb ass idea? Okay here's one: "Cash for Clunker" was ill conceived not limited to domestic car sales and cost $28,000 per car to give a few people $5,000 to trade in perfectly serviceable cars and hurt future sales of new and used Cars, while making no appreciable difference in the amount of fuel used.

Her's another The stimulus plan gave L.A. City 111 million dollars to create new jobs and fix streets and highways. Fine and dandy.

This whole debacle shows extremely poor judgment and lack of thought.

They created 54 new jobs and fixed no streets and the money was all used up. Do the math is was way worse than the dumb ass "Cash fo Clunkers" and that has been repeated from sea to shining sea, over and over again.

What's even more egregious if that is even possible, reports say there remains between 1/3 and 1/2 of the stimulus money unspent so the Democrats can jump up just before, the Nov. election and do a few good things they can point to and say look what we did for you.

Obama Worshipers need to try to look at what is actually being done and the real results and stop listening to Obama and the 5th Column Obamedia lies because that ia all they do other than call people names and distort facts to make them look good, all the while the jobless rates remain above 9.6% nationally and here in California at 12.5%.

Now I just spent a few minutes to answer you post as silly as I may se it. But then I know many people here have no sense of Historical Facts.

But the Point of the OP was Obama's hypocrisy which is clear to any one.

This response is for sokpupet too.

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything
 
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so, in a nutshell, you believe a progressive tax is wealth redistribution. now, you tell me just exactly how the common man, (middle class and below?) is losing out with a progressive tax. and please provide examples of a representative republic or democray, such as ours, collapsing.

this post was nothing but a false accusastion about obama. buh-bye.
winners win, losers lose and punishing the winners doesn't make losers any more competitive. Addicting millions to government handouts might help them temporarily but in the long run makes people weaker and less competitive
 

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Obama Half-Brother Busted – Sex Assault | Sweetness & Light

Obama's brother is a bad actor. I don't blame him for letting the guy alone. You can't help some folks.

The rich in this country don't mind taking money from the middle and lower class so I really don't see
a problem turning the tide. Without a workforce the rich would not be that. It's not taking the riches $
but holding then accountable for the costs of doing business in this country. Corporate Welfare Information Center
Does Roger Federer TAKE prize money from piss-poor players who cannot carry his jock? DOes the Phi Beta Kappa summa cum laude graduate "TAKE" A grades from the slackers who cut class and do not complete assignments? Does the Valedictorian at Columbia Law School take a Supreme Court Clerkship from the guy who barely graduates from Pace Law School?
 

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winners win, losers lose and punishing the winners doesn't make losers any more competitive. Addicting millions to government handouts might help them temporarily but in the long run makes people weaker and less competitive
What about the hardworking people who legitimately have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own?
 

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What about the hardworking people who legitimately have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own?
some is rich some is poor, that's the way the world is but I don't believe in laying back and saying how bad your luck is

Joe Strummer.

I do not oppose a real safety net, and like many wealthy conservatives, I have a rather large amount to charities that actually help the poor and the unlucky (as opposed to liberal think tanks that use money to create "studies" advocating more socialism). However, there is no doubt that buying votes and addicting people to entitlements has been a strategy of the left for 75 years in a cynical and effective attempt to create and expand the number of dem voters.
 

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some is rich some is poor, that's the way the world is but I don't believe in laying back and saying how bad your luck is

Joe Strummer.

I do not oppose a real safety net, and like many wealthy conservatives, I have a rather large amount to charities that actually help the poor and the unlucky (as opposed to liberal think tanks that use money to create "studies" advocating more socialism). However, there is no doubt that buying votes and addicting people to entitlements has been a strategy of the left for 75 years in a cynical and effective attempt to create and expand the number of dem voters.
You believe in safety nets you just want them to be only available when you feel like paying for them. Got it.

edit: What the hell is "Joe Strummer?"
 
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You believe in safety nets you just want them to be only available when you feel like paying for them. Got it.

edit: What the hell is "Joe Strummer?"
you never heard of Joe Strummer. Just curious how old are you (he died about 8 or so years ago-Lead singer of "the only band that mattered")

here you go

YouTube - The Clash - I Fought The Law

(the lead singer)

safety net is ok-addicting people so they vote dem-bad
 
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