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Recreational Use of MJ Causes Brain Damage


So, if I produce experts that say the opposite of Francis Young, you would have to admit that they have more of an open mind and better skills at inference than yourself, correct? See, that's what happens when you debate with logical fallacies.
 
So, if I produce experts that say the opposite of Francis Young, you would have to admit that they have more of an open mind and better skills at inference than yourself, correct? See, that's what happens when you debate with logical fallacies.

No, because Francis Young was not the only person to have reached that conclusion, he just happened to be, ironically, an agent of the DEA basically. Young's conclusion was reached previously by virtually every study ever done regarding the substance, by both the US government and other governments around the world going back decades and century.

Debate? I suppose so, but in so many cases, including my own, my opinion is also formed by personal experience. The pot debate is not conducted in a vacuum, it is greatly influenced by the personal experiences of many.

By every definition and every standard, the substance is benign. Not harmless, but benign. Those 2 words are not synonyms, and pretty much every poster here has acknowledged that. It is not harmless, but it is benign.

Whatever harm it might cause, whatever effect its use may have on each individual, is minor, especially when compared to other substances "blessed" by our illustrious legislators.
 

You are confusing two issues. Is marijuana as harmful as other substances? From a totality standpoint, it is the least addictive of any major "substance" (opiates followed by nicotine would be worst), and it's harmfulness is less apparent or significant than many others. But benign? Nope, not based on the definition you used. And I reject personal experience in this case. That's anecdotal and is marred by the bias of the user.
 

Which 2 issues am I confusing?
 

Well, tell me how many people have overdosed, tell me the toxic level. Nothing extreme about saying that there is no level that causes an overdose.
 
Well, tell me how many people have overdosed, tell me the toxic level. Nothing extreme about saying that there is no level that causes an overdose.

Overdosing is not the only thing that defines whether a substance is harmful. I can keep going with this for a long time. You are making an illogical argument.
 
Overdosing is not the only thing that defines whether a substance is harmful. I can keep going with this for a long time. You are making an illogical argument.

My argument on this thread is dealing with the toxicity of marijuana. Get it? I am talking about the fact that you can't die of an overdose. You however want to just gainsay whatever the hell I am saying for whatever reason, I don't know.

So...focus....I am talking about the fact that no one has ever died from marijuana in their system, and that there is no THC poisoning.

If you want to discuss something else about marijuana, go ahead, but your constant picking and hectoring has gotten tiresome and is bordering on trollish behavior.

I get it...you want to talk about other things regarding marijuana, feel free. But, for years I have been reminding Fenton whenever he puts up a stupid anti MJ thread that no one has ever died from overdosing, and there is no toxic level of it.

I hope you understand, and get over your urge to criticize me for making this point.
 

You are making the point that since one cannot overdose on marijuana it is not harmful. That is illogical. As long as you continue with that position, I will call you on it. Concede that just because one cannot overdose on something doesn't mean that thing cannot be harmful in some way and I will leave you to your thread.
 

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, get the hell over it.

I have made focused statements about one facet of marijuana, and that is going to have to be good enough to for you. Obsessively pick on someone else.

Is there anything I am saying that is untrue about no one ever overdosing, or there being a toxic level? Yes or no.
 
where is the constitutional authority for the federal government to intervene?

they knowingly needed an amendment to ban alcohol and the same is true with MJ. why do you side with big government propaganda?

Why does a drug addicts " right " to pickle their brain and go through life impaired supercede my right to raise my Family in a community not inudnated with drugs and drug addicts ?
 
Why does a drug addicts " right " to pickle their brain and go through life impaired supercede my right to raise my Family in a community not inudnated with drugs and drug addicts ?

really? you have a "right" to reside in a community without persons engaging in actions that harm no one but themselves

please share the origin of such "right" with us
 
Why does a drug addicts " right " to pickle their brain and go through life impaired supercede my right to raise my Family in a community not inudnated with drugs and drug addicts ?

Hyperbole alert!!!!!
 
Overdosing is not the only thing that defines whether a substance is harmful. I can keep going with this for a long time. You are making an illogical argument.

Yes, you can, you have already obsessed over your minutiae for several posts. I am and have been focusing on the one point, marijuana is not toxic, there is no way to overdose. Can you understand what I am saying? It is a part of an argument for legalization, there are several more, as has been seen here.

Nothing illogical about the fact that no one has overdosed, or that there is not a toxic level. That is what I am focusing on, please disprove what I am focusing on, or stop with the obsessive nitpicking.
 
Troll alert !!!

You have no "right" to be protected from the imaginary evils that you have worked yourself into about people smoking marijuana.

The Officer Friday schtick died decades ago.
 
Troll alert !!!

You have no "right" to force those around to to adhere to your personal moral code.

Many Americans try marijuana. I would advise any parent to prepare their child to be exposed to things like marijuana and alcohol.

Plugging one's ears and screaming "LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!" with regards to drugs will not prepare a child to be a well-rounded, functional adult.
 


Does that fact that one cannot overdose on marijuana mean that it is NOT harmful at all? All you have to do is answer that question, correcting what you have said in this thread and I will leave. That simple.
 
Does that fact that one cannot overdose on marijuana mean that it is NOT harmful at all? All you have to do is answer that question, correcting what you have said in this thread and I will leave. That simple.

I don't know, I haven't seen any good research yet. When they reschedule the drug, we can have more clinical trials and find out. Smoking anything is harmful, but you don't have to smoke marijuana. Lots of medicines have side effects that can be harmful, but the medicine still is better than the side effects.
 
Does that fact that one cannot overdose on marijuana mean that it is NOT harmful at all? All you have to do is answer that question, correcting what you have said in this thread and I will leave. That simple.

allow me to answer:
absolutely not
which is why we do not want minors having access to it
don't want my pilot/uber driver high on it
ditto for my eye surgeon and broker
like most things that are impactful, there is a time and a place for it
 
Why does a drug addicts " right " to pickle their brain and go through life impaired supercede my right to raise my Family in a community not inudnated with drugs and drug addicts ?

because of rule of law

now answer my question.

where is the constitutional authority?
 
Overdosing is not the only thing that defines whether a substance is harmful. I can keep going with this for a long time. You are making an illogical argument.

You are making no argument at all.

Everybody agrees that MJ use causes SOME effect or another, varying from person to person.

From radiation to other disease, life itself is "harmful" in some manner. So what is your point?
 
Talk about misreading a title! I was wondering who had been smoking Michael Jackson!
 
Does that fact that one cannot overdose on marijuana mean that it is NOT harmful at all? All you have to do is answer that question, correcting what you have said in this thread and I will leave. That simple.

Practically any substance can be harmful if abused. The question is: should Marijuana be a banned substance? If Marijuana is banned, then other substances which are far more harmful also need to be banned.
 
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