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danarhea

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After the midterm elections, the Republican party has been telling everyone that it is listening to the voters' mandate, and will be making moves to the center. This is complete BS, because almost everything the GOP has done over the past few years has been in abandonment of Conservative principles.
Now here is a term of contradictions - Big Government Conservative - This term is asinine, because Conservatism is rooted in the philosophy of LESS government. Yet there are big government Republicans who spend like drunken sailors, and have the gall to tell everybody that they are Conservative. Conservative, my @$$, and let me tell you why.

Those who embrace Neoconservatism, or most of them at any rate, are well aware of the fact that those who founded the Neocon movement originally called themselves Neoliberals, and only changed the name to Neoconservative AFTER it became obvious that America itself was becoming more Conservative. Many of those who put together the concept of Neoconservatism were originally Communists, like Irving Kristol, the father of Neoconservatism, who was a member of the Trotsky faction of Communism. These are the people who took over the Republican party, and have been using it as their parasitic host. Yes, that's right. These people, the Neocons, are Machiavellian parasites, not Conservatives.

In the 1950's, Joseph McCarthy conducted a witch hunt against many people, ruining the lives of many innocents in the process. However, he had a point, but he just didn't look in the right direction to find the Communists. If he had, then the parasitic infection of the Republican party might never have happened.

Now, the GOP is making moves to remove the infestation, but it is already too late. Just take a look around you. What the Neocons (Communistic Neoliberals in Conservative clothing) did to the party is calamitous, and what they did to America is pure treason.

Article is here.
 
Just take a look around you. What the Neocons (Communistic Neoliberals in Conservative clothing) did to the party is calamitous, and what they did to America is pure treason.

What's more amazing is that conservatives didn't have a problem with these so called "Communistic Neoliberals in Conservative clothing" as long as you guys were winning elections. Hypocrisy much? Yep.

It's amusing watching the conservative party turn rabid wolf on each other when the chips are down. WAY TO GO CONSERVATIVES.
 
What's more amazing is that conservatives didn't have a problem with these so called "Communistic Neoliberals in Conservative clothing" as long as you guys were winning elections. Hypocrisy much? Yep.

It's amusing watching the conservative party turn rabid wolf on each other when the chips are down. WAY TO GO CONSERVATIVES.

You obviously haven't been following my posts for very long. I was bashing the Bushneviks when bashing the Bushneviks wasn't cool, and I have been doing it for years.
 
So you think Nixon Republicans should kick out the Reagan Republicans?

They'd have better luck running with the Reform Party...
 
So you think Nixon Republicans should kick out the Reagan Republicans?

They'd have better luck running with the Reform Party...

Actually, the Neocons have little in common with the Reagan Republicans. As a matter of fact, Bush Sr., as VP under Reagan, called the Neocons "the crazies in the basement". Turns out he was right.
 
Wow. I had to thank you for "Bushnevick"

Hmmm....a political ideology where massive tax cuts are given, trillions are spent, and progress is outlawed...
 
Actually, the Neocons have little in common with the Reagan Republicans. As a matter of fact, Bush Sr., as VP under Reagan, called the Neocons "the crazies in the basement". Turns out he was right.

I still believe Reagan represented the end of true conservatism in the GOP. The massive defense budget increases and entanglements abroad don't seem very 'small-governmentish'.

Sure, Reagan lowered taxes...only to get us trillions in debt. The Republicans have become very good at running up the tab-and blaming anyone for trying to pay for it!
 
I still believe Reagan represented the end of true conservatism in the GOP. The massive defense budget increases and entanglements abroad don't seem very 'small-governmentish'.

Sure, Reagan lowered taxes...only to get us trillions in debt. The Republicans have become very good at running up the tab-and blaming anyone for trying to pay for it!

True, Reagan did run up the national debt, but the result was the end of Communism in Eastern Europe, and the fall of the Soviet Union. In most other respects, Reagan was a lot like Barry Goldwater. IMHO, Reagan was a great president. Nixon was great too, but his paranoia did him in. Shakespeare could write a play about Nixon. LOL.
 
I thought true conservatives thought fiscal responsibility was the key to prosperity?

It's not responsible to spend money you don't have without the intention of ever paying it back.


On topic, I have to thank the neocons from changing their names and taking over the Republican Party instead of the Democratic. Through their actions they have begun to shift America away from the right and back where it belongs - the dead-center. Then, when true conservatives retake the GOP, we will finally have progress and bipartisanship.
 
Actually, the Neocons have little in common with the Reagan Republicans. As a matter of fact, Bush Sr., as VP under Reagan, called the Neocons "the crazies in the basement". Turns out he was right.

... unless you count the rabid nationalism and xenophobia, the lust for world domination through military might (the arms race with the USSR?), and the imposition of radical fringe element evangelical Christian "moral values" on an unwilling populace.
Anybody remember Jerry Falwell and the inaptly-named "Moral Majority"?
I don't, not firsthand, of course; I was a very young child during the Reagan administration. But I've read about it.
The parallels are undeniable.
 
This is why I don't go along with parties. Before you know it you end up supporting some corrupt jerk who has little in common with you. Then you wake up a few years later a go "how the hell did I ever support that guy?"
 
Make no mistake about it........Conservatism is the only thing that can save this country.
 
Political correctness

I find political correctness to be asannoying and obnoxious as the next guy. If it died tomorrow, I would shed no tears. But a threat to America? Its not important enough to do much.

radical liberalism

I'm no fan of radical liberalism, but I suspect our definitions may differ. But still, when was the last time that the radical liberals were in power? Or are you referring to the not so conservative neocons?
 
yay! Real republicans would be a nice thing to have. Then we could stop shouting at each-other about gays and evolution and get some stuff done.
 
The GOP has become synonomous with Big Government.
In the past couple of decades the Republican party has abandoned its roots and has become fixated on Governmental involvment in "social issues", i.e., homosexuality, reproductive freedoms, etc.
These "neo-cons" who claim to be "conservatives" have very little concern about the fiscal state of the country, so long as they can advance their big government agenda into the bedrooms of America. Their sole focus is on stacking the courts with conservative activist judges to slowly erode the Constitution.
 
The GOP has become synonomous with Big Government.
In the past couple of decades the Republican party has abandoned its roots and has become fixated on Governmental involvment in "social issues", i.e., homosexuality, reproductive freedoms, etc.
These "neo-cons" who claim to be "conservatives" have very little concern about the fiscal state of the country, so long as they can advance their big government agenda into the bedrooms of America. Their sole focus is on stacking the courts with conservative activist judges to slowly erode the Constitution.

But with Republicans like Rudy Guliani and Arnold Shwazzeneger popular, could the 'liberal Republican' be on the way back?
The kind like Nelson Rockefeller or George Romney?

Anythings possible after that showing on Nov 6 lol
 
The GOP has become synonomous with Big Government.
In the past couple of decades the Republican party has abandoned its roots and has become fixated on Governmental involvment in "social issues", i.e., homosexuality, reproductive freedoms, etc.
These "neo-cons" who claim to be "conservatives" have very little concern about the fiscal state of the country, so long as they can advance their big government agenda into the bedrooms of America. Their sole focus is on stacking the courts with conservative activist judges to slowly erode the Constitution.

What a joke...........Pot meet kettle...........:rofl
 
But with Republicans like Rudy Guliani and Arnold Shwazzeneger popular, could the 'liberal Republican' be on the way back?
The kind like Nelson Rockefeller or George Romney?

Anythings possible after that showing on Nov 6 lol

I don't think I would call Guliani or Arnold "Liberal"....but I do believe that the only hope for the GOP is a move back to Moderation.
Stay true to their conservative fiscal policies and abandon their social conservativism attack on the constitution.
 
I think it won't be long before we have three major parties after a fracture in the GOP between Bible pushers and fiscal conservatives, with the Biblers getting thumped in the end.
 
I think it won't be long before we have three major parties after a fracture in the GOP between Bible pushers and fiscal conservatives, with the Biblers getting thumped in the end.

That is simply not true...........Come 2008 the Bible Belters and the Conservatives will come together and vote for the Republican nominee....No way will they vote for left wing whacko liberals like "The Ice Princess" Hillary or Hussein Obama.........They are fooling no one.......
 
2008 is definitely going to be interesting....especially after the 2006 midterms.
The neo-con/social conservatives are not going to give up power easily....but you will definitely see a resurgence of true "conservatives" fighting for the sole of the GOP. It will be interesting to see how it will turn out. My prediction is that the neo-cons will pull through because they still control the base of the GOP. Moderate independents/Social Moderate - Fiscal conservatives will not likely have a great deal of influence in selecting the nominee....which is why I doubt Guiliani can win. McCain has a shot since he started to cater to them....but they might reject him because of his "Johnny come lately"-ism. It will definitely be interesting to see.
I would love to see the GOP nominate Frist.....that would be great.
 
That is simply not true...........Come 2008 the Bible Belters and the Conservatives will come together and vote for the Republican nominee....No way will they vote for left wing whacko liberals like "The Ice Princess" Hillary or Hussein Obama.........They are fooling no one.......

Bible belters voting for the pro-choice, pro-gay marriage Guiliani? Not happening.
Bible belters voting for the Mormon Romney? Not happening.

Independents & moderates voting for the Bible belt's selection, Brownback or Huckabee? Not happening.

The only shot the GOP has at getting a conservative in the White House is McCain - and he isn't beholden to the Bible Belt by any means.
 
2008 is definitely going to be interesting....especially after the 2006 midterms.
The neo-con/social conservatives are not going to give up power easily....but you will definitely see a resurgence of true "conservatives" fighting for the sole of the GOP. It will be interesting to see how it will turn out. My prediction is that the neo-cons will pull through because they still control the base of the GOP. Moderate independents/Social Moderate - Fiscal conservatives will not likely have a great deal of influence in selecting the nominee....which is why I doubt Guiliani can win. McCain has a shot since he started to cater to them....but they might reject him because of his "Johnny come lately"-ism. It will definitely be interesting to see.
I would love to see the GOP nominate Frist.....that would be great.

I think the GOP lost in 2006 but judging by all the Conservatives that were elected like Casey, Shuler, Webb etc and with 44 blue dog dems in the house I think we did pretty well.............
 

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