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Raw Fear Is What I Feel About This Election

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If the election is close, as it looks like it might be, then there is no controlling authority that the people in the US will trust that could call the election. There is a high likelihood that half of the people will regard the election as illegitimate no matter how it goes for one reason or another such as Russian involvement or the corruption of the DoJ. It's a recipe for civil unrest and disorder.

JustOneMinute: If You Are Not Nervous About The Upcoming Election...
 

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If the election is close, as it looks like it might be, then there is no controlling authority that the people in the US will trust that could call the election. There is a high likelihood that half of the people will regard the election as illegitimate no matter how it goes for one reason or another such as Russian involvement or the corruption of the DoJ. It's a recipe for civil unrest and disorder.

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This is exactly the horror of the situation we face.
 

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There is no chance that we will have a more divided country following the election. Obama and company have spent eight years accusing this group, extolling that group, pitting one against another, so that we are already more divided as a country now than I can remember at any time in my increasingly long life. Will Hillary correct that based on her rhetoric so far? I don't think so.

And whoever wins the election will be accused of doing so through nefarious means regardless of the vote unless it is overwhelming. But it won't change much. It will still be the usual nattering about things that don't matter much to avoid having to deal with the things that do.

The only candidate left standing who has any chance of making a difference in the status quo that is slowly but persistently making things worse is Trump. The only smart thing for Americans who don't like the status quo is to get behind him and elect him by such a wide margin that it cannot be challenged.
 

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There is no chance that we will have a more divided country following the election. Obama and company have spent eight years accusing this group, extolling that group, pitting one against another, so that we are already more divided as a country now than I can remember at any time in my increasingly long life. Will Hillary correct that based on her rhetoric so far? I don't think so.

Oh, so it's Obama's fault that the right spent years accusing him of being (1) a secret muslim, (2) from Kenya, (3) a socialist, (4) a communist, (5) a kenyan colonialist, (6) racist against white people, (7) hates America, and of (8) actively trying to Destroy America? (as well as about fifty other things I'm not going to type up).

From day one, actually from before he was even President, the right has been in overdrive trying to throw all the lies at him it can. True to form, apparently, the right also blames Obama for all the things it called Obama.


And those are merely the divisive things that the right did vis a vis Obama, rather than as against the nation.
 

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Oh, so it's Obama's fault that the right spent years accusing him of being (1) a secret muslim, (2) from Kenya, (3) a socialist, (4) a communist, (5) a kenyan colonialist, (6) racist against white people, (7) hates America, and of (8) actively trying to Destroy America? (as well as about fifty other things I'm not going to type up).

From day one, actually from before he was even President, the right has been in overdrive trying to throw all the lies at him it can. True to form, apparently, the right also blames Obama for all the things it called Obama.

And those are merely the divisive things that the right did vis a vis Obama, rather than as against the nation.

Nice deflection. None of that has anything to do with my post however.
 

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There is no chance that we will have a more divided country following the election. Obama and company have spent eight years accusing this group, extolling that group, pitting one against another, so that we are already more divided as a country now than I can remember at any time in my increasingly long life. Will Hillary correct that based on her rhetoric so far? I don't think so.

And whoever wins the election will be accused of doing so through nefarious means regardless of the vote unless it is overwhelming. But it won't change much. It will still be the usual nattering about things that don't matter much to avoid having to deal with the things that do.

The only candidate left standing who has any chance of making a difference in the status quo that is slowly but persistently making things worse is Trump. The only smart thing for Americans who don't like the status quo is to get behind him and elect him by such a wide margin that it cannot be challenged.



made up right wing fantasy like this is part of the problem
 

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I'm not nervous because it doesn't matter which side wins, we're screwed. I've accepted the reality of the situation. Why fear the inevitable?
 

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Nice deflection. None of that has anything to do with my post however.


You seem confused.

You claimed Obama was divisive:


There is no chance that we will have a more divided country following the election. Obama and company have spent eight years accusing this group, extolling that group, pitting one against another, so that we are already more divided as a country now than I can remember at any time in my increasingly long life. Will Hillary correct that based on her rhetoric so far? I don't think so.

I pointed out that the right was actually the divisive side:

Oh, so it's Obama's fault that the right spent years accusing him of being (1) a secret muslim, (2) from Kenya, (3) a socialist, (4) a communist, (5) a kenyan colonialist, (6) racist against white people, (7) hates America, and of (8) actively trying to Destroy America? (as well as about fifty other things I'm not going to type up).

From day one, actually from before he was even President, the right has been in overdrive trying to throw all the lies at him it can. True to form, apparently, the right also blames Obama for all the things it called Obama.

And those are merely the divisive things that the right did vis a vis Obama, rather than as against the nation.


I responded directly to an assertion you made. Is the problem that you couldn't respond on point to my rebuttal? So you called it a "dodge" in order to dodge it?
 

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I am not afraid.
 

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You seem confused.

You claimed Obama was divisive:




I pointed out that the right was actually the divisive side:




I responded directly to an assertion you made. Is the problem that you couldn't respond on point to my rebuttal? So you called it a "dodge" in order to dodge it?

I claimed Obama was divisive and I will go to my grave believing he is the most divisive President we have ever had. So we will just have to disagree on that.
 

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If the election is close, as it looks like it might be, then there is no controlling authority that the people in the US will trust that could call the election. There is a high likelihood that half of the people will regard the election as illegitimate no matter how it goes for one reason or another such as Russian involvement or the corruption of the DoJ. It's a recipe for civil unrest and disorder.

JustOneMinute: If You Are Not Nervous About The Upcoming Election...

I hope you do fear Trump, since the garbage wingnut media you basically run an RSS feed for helped create him.
 

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I can see the kook left going nuts over a DJT victory, burning, looting etc. I just hope they don't burn my favorite breweries.
 

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If the election is close, as it looks like it might be, then there is no controlling authority that the people in the US will trust that could call the election. There is a high likelihood that half of the people will regard the election as illegitimate no matter how it goes for one reason or another such as Russian involvement or the corruption of the DoJ. It's a recipe for civil unrest and disorder.

JustOneMinute: If You Are Not Nervous About The Upcoming Election...

(Yawn)...not for me. I have experienced "raw fear" and this is not it.

Our wonderful American system only allows the winner to be in power for four (4) years before that power is contested again.

Even while in power, there are all kinds of checks and balances to limit that power.

Just ask Obama how powerful his pen and phone were....not much.

I do, however, get the gist of the OP. Massive unrest and possible violence. Maybe among inner city blacks, who have a history of such things, but not anywhere else.

No matter who wins, it will be business as usual for almost all of us.

Even those that swear to run to another country will not do it. That's just bar talk.

The pendulum is swinging to the right and will for the next four to eight years, and the liberals will gnash their teeth, post on Facebook, and pull at their clothes,

... then it will swing back to the left again, and the conservatives will bring up all manner of conspiracy theories and bring up false charges.

Rinse, repeat.

That is how we do it here.
 
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I can see the kook left going nuts over a DJT victory, burning, looting etc. I just hope they don't burn my favorite breweries.

I can see the nutty righties having a complete meltdown over an HRC victory. Lots of silly crying and sobbing. I just hope they don't use up all the country's Kleenex. After 2008, conservative tears caused a tissue shortage like we've never seen before.
 

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I'm not nervous because it doesn't matter which side wins, we're screwed. I've accepted the reality of the situation. Why fear the inevitable?

I don't know about fear, but anger? Because the inevitable is really really bad, and I'm going to be as pissed about the outcome being forced on me as I want to, thank you very much.
 

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I claimed Obama was divisive and I will go to my grave believing he is the most divisive President we have ever had. So we will just have to disagree on that.

It was conservatives that have caused the divisiveness in this country over the past 8 years. They have been consistent in opposing anything Obama suggested, just because Obama suggested it. Obama's administration may be one of the most divisive in history, but that was more due to his opposition than to him.
 

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I can see the kook left going nuts over a DJT victory, burning, looting etc. I just hope they don't burn my favorite breweries.

Are you capable of posting without bitching about "the left"? I'm genuinely curious.
 

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I claimed Obama was divisive and I will go to my grave believing he is the most divisive President we have ever had. So we will just have to disagree on that.


you have virtually no understanding of history to make that statement. you just look foolish.
 

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I think the majority of the people won't want Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton but some of those will be swayed by the ridiculous claim that if you don't vote then you're really voting for X. Nonsense. You're not voting because "None of the Above" is not on the ticket. Other people will vote for the horrible choice they feel is slightly less horrible than the other one.

I was anxious when a racist who hates America was elected and he performed even worse than I expected. Whether you vote for the Trump University or the Clinton Foundation I'm afraid America is screwed.

Actually, as I read the thread I kept thinking, "This is the next four years." The Trumpkins will keep whining and the left will keep lying.
 
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It was conservatives that have caused the divisiveness in this country over the past 8 years. They have been consistent in opposing anything Obama suggested, just because Obama suggested it. Obama's administration may be one of the most divisive in history, but that was more due to his opposition than to him.

To suggest conservatives opposed Obama policy "just because he suggested it," is either supremely ignorant, or wildly disingenuous. You are far from ignorant. ;)
 

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To suggest conservatives opposed Obama policy "just because he suggested it," is either supremely ignorant, or wildly disingenuous. You are far from ignorant. ;)

Cap and Trade seems like a definite candidate.
 

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It was conservatives that have caused the divisiveness in this country over the past 8 years. They have been consistent in opposing anything Obama suggested, just because Obama suggested it. Obama's administration may be one of the most divisive in history, but that was more due to his opposition than to him.

Opposition is not divisiveness. Conservatives who have opposed the liberal agenda are representing those who elected them. They are not doing so to pit men against women, black against white, gay against straight, etc. etc. etc. Much of the liberal agenda seems to do just that though.
 

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you have virtually no understanding of history to make that statement. you just look foolish.

What is foolish the assumption of what understanding I have of history.
 
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