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Rangel fends off five primary opponents

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Rangel fends off five primary opponents - CNN.com

He's served in Congress for almost 40 years, but Tuesday's primary in New York was unlike any other for Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel.

The 80-year-old Rangel, facing five challengers and 13 ethics allegations in the House, came out on top in the Democratic primary for New York's 15th district, CNN has projected.
Unbelievable! The amount of corruption and crime in Washington that so many people complain about and yet the voters of New York still nominate this guy. I know, I know - he's not been proven guilty of anything yet, but come on. The evidence is overwhelming and he's bound to be kicked out.
 

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no better place for him

republicans are rosy, pelosi's pissed

bring on the trial!
 

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Rangel represents one of the worst places to live in the Nation and it is rife with every kind of corruption and low life known to man.

The people in this District wouldn't know how to act if they were to even run into an honest man.

With any luck the balance of power is going to change in the Congress and a little justice might just come into play.

But I'm not going to hold my breath.
 

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It's the most democratic district in the nation, which is why I didn't even bother to vote today.

Still can't believe this guy is my congressman.
 

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Rangel fends off five primary opponents - CNN.com



Unbelievable! The amount of corruption and crime in Washington that so many people complain about and yet the voters of New York still nominate this guy. I know, I know - he's not been proven guilty of anything yet, but come on. The evidence is overwhelming and he's bound to be kicked out.
NO!

Not "the voters of New York". Merely the voters of that Congressional district. Rangel is entrenched like a strangler fig, something as minor as Rangel lining his own pockets, cheating on his taxes, or moving assets off shore while he's promoting legislation to punish private citizens who move their assets offshore. So long as Rangel keeps the welfare checks flowing, his constituency of whores is going to vote for him.

That's why a Constitutional Amendment limiting Congressional terms to no more than three in a lifetime is necessary.

I can guarantee that Rangel isn't going to be impeached. He knows where the other Congressmen have buried their bodies.

But I do recall that the Messiah said, just three short weeks ago, that Rangel should gracefully retire, or retire with dignity, or some such nonsense like that.
 

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Democrats again nominate crook... What a SHOCK!!!!
 

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As a democrat, I am disappointed. Yes, Rangel shares my political views, but corruption should always be punished, and I wish the voters there had punished him with a loss.
 

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It's the most democratic district in the nation, which is why I didn't even bother to vote today.

Still can't believe this guy is my congressman.
Tom Delay used to be mine. Wanna swap? :mrgreen:
 

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It's beyond me why anyone would vote for this corrupt jerk.
 

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It's beyond me why anyone would vote for this corrupt jerk.
Most of his votes are in Harlem and Rangel brings in the entitlements.

It's almost impossible for a challnger, in a majority minority district, to beat out the incumbant, because the only platform he has to run on is, "more free stuff from the government". The incumbant has already proven that he can bring home the bacon. Remember that saying about, "tried and true"?
 

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Most of his votes are in Harlem and Rangel brings in the entitlements.

It's almost impossible for a challnger, in a majority minority district, to beat out the incumbant, because the only platform he has to run on is, "more free stuff from the government". The incumbant has already proven that he can bring home the bacon. Remember that saying about, "tried and true"?
Well obviously it's because minorities are one dimensional voters. Are you Caine's sock puppet? Or were you raised by a pack of wild black people and rescued by white explorers from Selma?
 
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Well obviously it's because minorities are one dimensional voters. Are you Caine's sock puppet? Or were you raised by a pack of wild black people and rescued by white explorers?
Well, it's not my fault that the Liberals have turned minorites into the welfare class.
 

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Well, it's not my fault that the Liberals have turned minorites into the welfare class.
Well obviously, because before Liberals, blacks were the what? Part of the country's middle class? Why don't you apdst, knower of all things black before my time tell us how things were for black people before us Librulz decided to come and make them slaves to the horrible welfare system.
 
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it really isn't polite to say where charlie's from

but he is
 

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It's the most democratic district in the nation, which is why I didn't even bother to vote today.

Still can't believe this guy is my congressman.
I'm thinking this about Bachmann.
 

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Well obviously, because before Liberals, blacks were the what? Part of the country's middle class? Why don't you apdst, knower of all things black before my time tell us how things were for black people before us Librulz decided to come and make them slaves to the horrible welfare system.
Oh! Yeah! And the Liberals have done what for them exactly? Addicted a majority of them to welfare? brainwashed most of them into thinking that they should sit back and wait for the big pay off?

Do you know why two white progressives and one white socialist created the NAACP? It was because they believed that black folks were too stupid to make it, without the help of white do-gooders.

I'm guessing you've never heard of the, "too prouds", the black Americans that were too proud to take government welfare. good thing for the Liberals that their numbers were stamped out. Just think of all those votes that wouldn't be cast for the Liberal Democrats.
 

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It's beyond me why anyone would vote for this corrupt jerk.
In all honesty, it's not like voting for the other guy would have made much a difference. Rangel has held his seat since 1970. He won that seat by running on a platform of reform, pledging to clean up the massive corruption of his predecessor. His predecessor had held his seat since 1944 and had the dubious honor of being the first person removed from his seat by Congress. His predecessor? Adam Clayton Powell Jr. The runner up to Rangel yesterday? Adam Clayton Powell IV.

There's no doubt in my mind that had Powell won, he would have spend the next 25 years winning reelection by 40 point margins and becoming just as corrupt as his father or Rangel.
 

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There's no doubt in my mind that had Powell won, he would have spend the next 25 years winning reelection by 40 point margins and becoming just as corrupt as his father or Rangel.
that is extremely true, sadly
 

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Oh! Yeah! And the Liberals have done what for them exactly? Addicted a majority of them to welfare? brainwashed most of them into thinking that they should sit back and wait for the big pay off?
Here I'll show you:

African Americans in the Twentieth Century | Economic History Services

According to the Census, ninety percent of African Americans still lived in the Southern US in 1900 -- roughly the same percentage as lived in the South in 1870. Three-quarters of black households were located in rural places. Only about one-fifth of African American household heads owned their own homes (less than half the percentage among whites). About half of black men and about thirty-five percent of black women who reported an occupation to the Census said that they worked as a farmer or a farm laborer, as opposed to about one-third of white men and about eight percent of white women. Outside of farm work, African American men and women were greatly concentrated in unskilled labor and service jobs. Most black children had not attended school in the year before the Census, and white children were much more likely to have attended. So a typical African American family at the start of the twentieth century lived and worked on a farm in the South, did not own its home, and was unlikely to have its children in school.

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By 1990 (the most recent Census for which such statistics are available at the time of this writing), the economic conditions of African Americans had changed dramatically (see Tables 1 and 2). They had become much less concentrated in the South, in rural places, and in farming jobs and had entered better blue-collar jobs and the white-collar sector. They were nearly twice as likely to own their own homes at the end of the century as in 1900, and their rates of school attendance at all ages had risen sharply.

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It is undeniable that the economic fortunes of African Americans changed dramatically during the twentieth century. African Americans moved from tremendous concentration in Southern agriculture to much greater diversity in residence and occupation. Over the period in which income can be measured, there are large increases in black incomes in both relative and absolute terms. Schooling differentials between blacks and whites fell sharply, as well. When one looks beyond the starting and ending points, though, more complex realities present themselves. The progress that we observe grew out of periods of tremendous social upheaval, particularly during the world wars. It was shaped in part by conflict between black workers and white workers, and it coincided with growing residential segregation. It was not continuous and gradual. Rather, it was punctuated by periods of rapid gain and periods of stagnation. The rapid gains are attributable to actions on the part of black workers (especially migration), broad economic forces (especially tight labor markets and narrowing of the general wage distribution), and specific antidiscrimination policy initiatives (such as the Fair Employment Practice Committee in the 1940s and Title VII and contract compliance policy in the 1960s). Finally, we should note that this century of progress ended with considerable gaps remaining between African Americans and white Americans in terms of income, unemployment, wealth, and life expectancy.
It's fun to watch you debate history and lose. But please tell us how things were better for blacks before us big bad librulz made them poor. I dare you to. I challenge you to bring more to the table than Glenn Beck talking points and stupidity.

here is now increasing agreement that these policies had positive effects on labor market outcomes for black workers at least through the mid-1970s. Several pieces of evidence point to this conclusion. First, the timing is right. Many indicators of employment and wage gains show marked improvement beginning in 1965, soon after the implementation of these policies. Second, job and wage gains for black workers in the 1960s were, for the first time, concentrated in the South. Enforcement of anti-discrimination policy was targeted on the South in this era. It is also worth noting that rates of black migration out of the South dropped substantially after 1965, perhaps reflecting a sense of greater opportunity there due to these policies. Finally, these gains for black workers occurred simultaneously in many industries and many places, under a variety of labor market conditions. Whatever generated these improvements had to come into effect broadly at one point in time. Federal antidiscrimination policy fits this description.

Do you know why two white progressives and one white socialist created the NAACP? It was because they believed that black folks were too stupid to make it, without the help of white do-gooders.
What two white progressives and one white socialist? These are the founders of the NAACP Du Bois, Ida B. Wells, Archibald Grimké, Henry Moscowitz, Mary White Ovington, Oswald Garrison Villard, William English Walling (the last son of a former slave-holding family) and Florence Kelley. Will you quit making **** up? 3 white people did not create the NAACP and all this talk of black people being too stupid to make it is nothing more than one more talking point but I welcome you to substantiate it with some evidence?

I'm guessing you've never heard of the, "too prouds", the black Americans that were too proud to take government welfare. good thing for the Liberals that their numbers were stamped out. Just think of all those votes that wouldn't be cast for the Liberal Democrats.
Making more **** up I see. For once in your life attempt to have a debate where you actually provide proof for anything you're saying?
 
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Making more **** up I see. For once in your life attempt to have a debate where you actually provide proof for anything you're saying?
Brace yourself - Obama will go down as the worst thing that has happened to the black race since slavery, simply because he will be regarded as the worst President ever....worst than Jimmy Carter
 

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personally, i don't really see how charlie being a THIEF is helping anyone

except charlie, of course
 

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Brace yourself - Obama will go down as the worst thing that has happened to the black race since slavery, simply because he will be regarded as the worst President ever....worst than Jimmy Carter
So blacks are apart of this hive mind now? Pat Buchanan is that you?
 
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