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Rangel charged with multiple ethics violations

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More corruption right on time for elections. Seems the democrats are falling apart.

Rangel charged with multiple ethics violations - Politics - Capitol Hill - msnbc.com

House investigative committee on Thursday charged New York Rep. Charles Rangel with multiple ethics violations, a blow to the former Ways and Means chairman and an election-year headache for Democrats.

The committee did not immediately specify the charges against the Democrat, who has served in the House for some 40 years and is fourth in House seniority. The announcement by a four-member panel of the House ethics committee sends the case to a House trial, where a separate eight-member panel of Republicans and Democrats will decide whether the violations can be proved by clear and convincing evidence.

The timing of the announcement ensures that it will stretch into the fall campaign, and Republicans are certain to make it an issue as they try to capture majority control of the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi had once promised to "drain the swamp" of ethical misdeeds by lawmakers in arguing that Democrats should be in charge.
 

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Rangel charged with multiple ethics violations - Politics - Capitol Hill - msnbc.com

House investigative committee on Thursday charged New York Rep. Charles Rangel with multiple ethics violations, a blow to the former Ways and Means chairman and an election-year headache for Democrats.

The committee did not immediately specify the charges against the Democrat, who has served in the House for some 40 years and is fourth in House seniority. The announcement by a four-member panel of the House ethics committee sends the case to a House trial, where a separate eight-member panel of Republicans and Democrats will decide whether the violations can be proved by clear and convincing evidence.

The timing of the announcement ensures that it will stretch into the fall campaign, and Republicans are certain to make it an issue as they try to capture majority control of the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi had once promised to "drain the swamp" of ethical misdeeds by lawmakers in arguing that Democrats should be in charge.

And it only took 2 years to get this far. :roll:
 

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Rangel charged with multiple ethics violations - Politics - Capitol Hill - msnbc.com

House investigative committee on Thursday charged New York Rep. Charles Rangel with multiple ethics violations, a blow to the former Ways and Means chairman and an election-year headache for Democrats.

The committee did not immediately specify the charges against the Democrat, who has served in the House for some 40 years and is fourth in House seniority. The announcement by a four-member panel of the House ethics committee sends the case to a House trial, where a separate eight-member panel of Republicans and Democrats will decide whether the violations can be proved by clear and convincing evidence.

The timing of the announcement ensures that it will stretch into the fall campaign, and Republicans are certain to make it an issue as they try to capture majority control of the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi had once promised to "drain the swamp" of ethical misdeeds by lawmakers in arguing that Democrats should be in charge.

Probably deserved but none the less surprising. A Democratic chaired committee bringing charges against a fellow Dem at this particular time in the election cycle. Too bizarre.

These guys are smart politically and the cynic in me suspects this was a calculated move. Am guessing that Rangel is so entrenched in his district that there is no way he is going to get voted out of office. (Am going out on a limb that there are not a lot of Republicans in Harlem). And at this late date no one within his party can contest him for the Democrat nomination. Slick, eh?? ;)

Not sure what impact this may have at the national level. Possibility that it could steal an amount of headlines and take some pressure off of other lesser scandals.



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Probably deserved but none the less surprising. A Democratic chaired committee bringing charges against a fellow Dem at this particular time in the election cycle. Too bizarre.

These guys are smart politically and the cynic in me suspects this was a calculated move. Am guessing that Rangel is so entrenched in his district that there is no way he is going to get voted out of office. (Am going out on a limb that there are not a lot of Republicans in Harlem). And at this late date no one within his party can contest him for the Democrat nomination. Slick, eh?? ;)

Not sure what impact this may have at the national level. Possibility that it could steal an amount of headlines and take some pressure off of other lesser scandals.



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This has been in the news so long they no choice but to charge him
 

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This has been in the news so long they no choice but to charge him



They certainly had a choice. They could have "not charged him"......




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They certainly had a choice. They could have "not charged him"......




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No they couldn't the news showed his corruption. To not charge him would show that politicians can do any illegal act and get away with it. It would have been very bad for the democrats in November
 

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I just hope they string him up by the nuts until dead....

The Dem controlled Congress goes after a black congress-critter? I think we all know that ain't gonna happen.
 

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On the contrary, I think it's a smart move on the democrat's part.

First of all, it allows Pelosi to say "See? I told you we'd clean house and fight corruption. We've gone after one of our most powerful house members, kicked him off Ways and Means, and now we're going after him."

Second, chances are he won't lose his re-election anyway (as someone else noted, given his district). And even if he does, it's pretty sure another Democrat would be elected.
 

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The Dem controlled Congress goes after a black congress-critter? I think we all know that ain't gonna happen.

It doesn't really matter who is in charge. We don't hold our politicians responsible for their actions.
 

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It doesn't really matter who is in charge. We don't hold our politicians responsible for their actions.

Especially, when they are black politicians. Yes?
 

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Especially, when they are black politicians. Yes?

liberals have spent 40 years excusing and enabling pernicious pathologies in black America in order to keep their minions on the plantations.
 

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about time!:
The investigation of Rangel has focused on:

_His use of official stationery to raise money for the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service at City College of New York.

_Whether he had the Ways and Means Committee consider legislation that would benefit donors to the Rangel Center at the same time the congressman solicited donations or pledges.

_Preservation of a tax shelter for an oil drilling company, Nabors Industries, which has a chief executive who donated money to the center while Rangel's committee considered the loophole legislation.

_Use of four rent-controlled apartment units in New York City, when the city's rent stabilization program is supposed to apply to one's primary residence. This raises the question of how all the units could be primary residences. One was a campaign office, raising a separate question of whether the rent break was an improper gift.

_Whether Rangel, as required, publicly reported information on the financing and rental of his ownership interest in a unit within the Punta Cana Yacht Club in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic. Rangel also had to pay back taxes on the rental income.

_Whether he intentionally failed to report — when required — hundreds of thousands of dollars or more in assets. The amended disclosure reports added a credit union IRA, mutual fund accounts and stock.
Rep. Rangel charged with multiple ethics violations | Raw Story

may the next political crook to face the music be harry reid for his history of corrupt real estate transactions
 

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We could fill USP Florence with members of congress if we really wanted to

as usual, i disagree with your conclusion
given the very low opinion the American citizen has for the members of congress, i would surmise that the public would welcome the incarceration of every crook in political office
 

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as usual, i disagree with your conclusion
given the very low opinion the American citizen has for the members of congress, i would surmise that the public would welcome the incarceration of every crook in political office

uh how was that a disgareement
 

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uh how was that a disgareement

because we really want to
you indicated that it was only our lack of desire to incarcerate the crooks which was preventing that outcome
 

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because we really want to
you indicated that it was only our lack of desire to incarcerate the crooks which was preventing that outcome

uh I don't think that is true. at least not concerning our own congressman.

Most of them are corrupt yet win re-election easily

Later
 

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Rangel has become a liability to the Democratic Party. And he's a close ally of Nancy Pelosi. This is a very hurtful situation. Someone “special” needs to tell Rangel that his career in the House is over.
 

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uh I don't think that is true. at least not concerning our own congressman.

Most of them are corrupt yet win re-election easily

Later

since you are an attorney i should not need to explain to you that it is not what corruption you believe is happening but what you can prove
 

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More corruption right on time for elections. Seems the democrats are falling apart.

Rangel charged with multiple ethics violations - Politics - Capitol Hill - msnbc.com

House investigative committee on Thursday charged New York Rep. Charles Rangel with multiple ethics violations, a blow to the former Ways and Means chairman and an election-year headache for Democrats.

The committee did not immediately specify the charges against the Democrat, who has served in the House for some 40 years and is fourth in House seniority. The announcement by a four-member panel of the House ethics committee sends the case to a House trial, where a separate eight-member panel of Republicans and Democrats will decide whether the violations can be proved by clear and convincing evidence.

The timing of the announcement ensures that it will stretch into the fall campaign, and Republicans are certain to make it an issue as they try to capture majority control of the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi had once promised to "drain the swamp" of ethical misdeeds by lawmakers in arguing that Democrats should be in charge.

and the swamp is draining, right?
 
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