Rachel Maddow On Keith Olbermann’s Suspension (Video)

[haymarket]

from Fluffyninja

It seems that the vast majority of their "news" and commentary since the '04 Pres election has simply been devoted to discrediting Fox hosts

You are mistaken. The job of discrediting FOX hosts is given to FOX hosts. They need no additional help or assistance from anyone.

 

[VanceMack]

Are you reading a different thread to the one I'm reading? Could you quote me a liberal who has lost their mind over this? Just been through the main Olbermann Suspended thread and there's one single noob, called haymarket, supporting him and criticising the suspension. Where are your hordes of mind-losing liberals Vance? Or was that something known as a rhetorical device?

Context IS of course EVERYTHING...isnt it...

"Oh...and also...for the record...from what I have read in the last two weeks the leftists are incredibly hypocritical for their bleating about Juan WIlliams being fired for expressing a personal opinion (while in the same breath DEFENDING ALL MUSLIMS and pointing out it was the extreme fundamentalist Muslims responsible for the terror acts) and then feigning outrage when Olbermann got suspended not for expressing an opinion (for 'Petes' sake...he has been ON AIR for years demonstrating his impotent rage against conservatives and nothing but praise from NBC) but because he violated corporate rules. Not fired. Suspended. For violating rules. And the liberals here lose their minds over it"

You really want to pretend that on this site and others there havent been people "losing their minds" over it? MAybe you missed the Olbermann Suspended thread...or the five others...to say nothing of the multiple threads regarding Juan Williams.

 

[Andalublue]

Apparently they don't, as keith Olbermann proved :laughat:

Apparently they do, as the suspension of Keith Olbermann proved. :thumbs:

 

[TurtleDude]

But Hannity is an TV editorialist. He is not a news man... he is an opinion man. He never pretends to be anything other than a partisan Republican. Though I dislike his show(s), I don't have any problem with him having them.

For this same reason I find MSNBCs policy and firing of KO to be very odd, though within their rights.

Does Maddow ever come off as biased? I don't watch her either. I mean from the few clips I have seen I think about rocks and glass houses and such.

madcow is a partisan hack=her agenda is leftwing lesbianism. She is often factual but she only cites facts that are anti Conservative, Patriotic or capitalistic. Stuff that makes the socialist, union, gay or anti military agenda look bad are never brought up

 

[TurtleDude]

from Fluffyninja



You are mistaken. The job of discrediting FOX hosts is given to FOX hosts. They need no additional help or assistance from anyone.

really? this sounds like the crap that would come from the suspended one. any proof of your claims?

 

[VanceMack]

madcow is a partisan hack=her agenda is leftwing lesbianism. She is often factual but she only cites facts that are anti Conservative, Patriotic or capitalistic. Stuff that makes the socialist, union, gay or anti military agenda look bad are never brought up

As she freely admits...oh...but FOX is BIASED. MSNBC is the bitter pathetic angry underdeveloped impotent malnurished twin of Fox. Both biased...but one actually has viewership.

 

[Andalublue]

You really want to pretend that on this site and others there havent been people "losing their minds" over it? MAybe you missed the Olbermann Suspended thread...or the five others...to say nothing of the multiple threads regarding Juan Williams.

I note that you can't quote me a liberal losing his/her mind over Olbermann's suspension. As I said, I went through the entire Olbermann Suspension thread and found one poster defending Olbermann and criticising NBC. Your rhetoric is nothing but just that.

 

[haymarket]

oh Turtle ... you really need to ask????? you are a funny one that makes me smile ... laugh even. thanks for the jollies.

you may want to go to Wikipedia and look up the word SARCASM. It will expand your horizons greatly.

 

[ecofarm]

I would respectfully disagree. MSNBC is not my cup of tea at all but, at an institutional level, they clearly have some ethical standards. Unlike Fox.

Because an anchor of a non-entertainment program demonstrated bias both on the air and with his wallet... they are more ethical. This is absurd. We'd might as well claim the highest crime-rate city in the world to be the most just (look at all the prosecutions).

The one who is caught is not the most righteous, for having been exposed.

C'mon. Bail on that weak spin. If it comes to light that Fox exercises the same policies then how would that look? Who's pretending to know what kind of restrictions are in contracts they sign.

Besides, any moron could hide campaign contributions if they were worried about it; KO just sucks. MSNBS would be better off with Colmes. I might watch that just to hear him speak for once.

 

[Barbbtx]

Yes, she's extremely accurate. She does excellent interviews. When beginning an interview she states what she thinks the position of the interviewee is then asks the person if there is anything she had gotten wrong. And she is always well prepared.

I agree to a certain extent. However, there have been a couple times I've noticed that she will go to any lengths to come across as the winner. When it seems she's had her hat handed to her, she'll be back on the next day with "proof" she was right all along. Of course then the person isn't sitting there to defend himself.

 

[FluffyNinja]

Apparently they do, as the suspension of Keith Olbermann proved. :thumbs:

So are we talking about the hosts (you know the ones who are actually in front of the cameras each day) or the administration here? I'd hope we can agree they oft times DO act indepently of one another.

 

[pragmatic]

I would respectfully disagree. MSNBC is not my cup of tea at all but, at an institutional level, they clearly have some ethical standards. Unlike Fox.

Think we all got a great look at their ethical standards ( MSNBC ) with their election night coverage. It was what it was, and the viewer has to decide where that example sits on the "quality spectrum".....


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[Grim17]

As she freely admits...oh...but FOX is BIASED. MSNBC is the bitter pathetic angry underdeveloped impotent malnurished twin of Fox. Both biased...but one actually has viewership.

And one actually has a credible news department.

 

[VanceMack]

And one actually has a credible news department.

If Fox ever wants true credibility they need to seperate their news shows and their commentary programs. Their morning 'news' program commentators are biased and any time they say the words "fair and balanced" they basically discredit the few legit news programs they have. They play to an audience. One of the reasons why they do so well in viewership is they are the only channel that presents news with a conservative (and some programs non-biased) perspective while virtually ALL the other channels divy up the liberal leaning viewership.

 

[haymarket]

from Grim

And one actually has a credible news department.

I cannot help but shake this picture of a Fox True Believer saying the same thing over and over and over again like a mantra while they eyes are tightly shut and their fingers crossed in front of their chin. The "I do believe in spooks" from WIZARD OF OZ also comes to mind.

 

[ecofarm]

One of the reasons why they do so well in viewership is they are the only channel that presents news with a conservative (and some programs non-biased) perspective while virtually ALL the other channels divy up the liberal leaning viewership.

Plenty of conservatives watch CNN. Fox gets libertarians, fiscally conservative liberals, independants, moderates, centrists and even liberals (because except for Beck and Hannity, it is stomachable).

 

[VanceMack]

Plenty of conservatives watch CNN.

"One of the reasons why they do so well in viewership..."

I didnt say ALL CONSERVATIVES MUST...

 

[Andalublue]

And one actually has a credible news department.

Only credible if you're extremely credulous. :2wave:

 

[ecofarm]

"One of the reasons why they do so well in viewership..."

I didnt say ALL CONSERVATIVES MUST...

Before we write-off their 50% of the cable-news-viewer population as neo or paleo thumpers, let's consider the crossover and the overall domination of their ratings.

ps. I like the red-head on CNN (been awhile since I watched TV), though I'm a social liberal on everything except abortion.

 

[Barbbtx]

No news on weekends on MSNBC. Just shows like Lock up and Confessions of BTK.
Fox is all news except for shows like Glenn Beck and Huckabee sprinkled in on the weekends.
If MSNBC wants to be known as a news channel, it might help if they aired news.

 

[Whovian]

Are you reading a different thread to the one I'm reading? Could you quote me a liberal who has lost their mind over this? Just been through the main Olbermann Suspended thread and there's one single noob, called haymarket, supporting him and criticising the suspension. Where are your hordes of mind-losing liberals Vance? Or was that something known as a rhetorical device?

Pretty much every one on this board who has posted in a related thread.

 

[Guy Incognito]

Pretty much every one on this board.

I'm not losing my mind over it. Either you're wrong or I'm not a liberal, take your pick.

 

[Whovian]

Pretty much every one on this board.

I'm not losing my mind over it. Either you're wrong or I'm not a liberal, take your pick.

What does pretty much mean? definition, meaning and pronunciation (Free English Language Dictionary)
definition of 'pretty much'... to some degree.

If it doesn't apply to you, you shouldn't take offense. If you take offense, it must apply.

 

[LizardofOz]

I think Maddow did a pretty good job summing it up, that Fox by extension is a tool for the GOP and Republican party and was trying to make the clear distinction that they are not a real news organization, they give the news with their 2 cents taped to it. MSNBC of course leans left, but they still hold true as a news organization and especially NBC's network reporting. But she is still today's:

 

[Andalublue]

Pretty much every one on this board who has posted in a related thread.

Except that you boys have been pretty much incapable of demonstrating anyone losing their head over this Olbermann thing. No one. Not. A. Single. Person. /Argument.