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R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates

Health care, energy conservation, infrastructure, National Security, pollution, Those things constitute a platform. Still waiting on Donald's big awesome health care plan by the way.

I don't get what they get out of lying so badly. Republcans have no platform. It's all hate and fear. Democrats had a huge platform, many evne republicans like. Just like healthcare, the right whine about it, but most people loved it. MOst people want healthcare and infrastructure?

These people are just shills for the greedy scumbags that are not happy until they take all the wealth from the people
 
The Republican platform hasn't changed since 2016.

However, like I said about the Dems...appease the masses and do what you want.

Yes, because the most pressing problems change, that's what conservatives are so stupid, and the republican party platform doesn't change, they refuse to acknowlege the reality of changing world.

YOu bragging like its a good thing republicans policy of hate and fear and give the rich tax cuts haven't change. Like that's a good thing. Oh way, sorry, just more moronic trolling on your part
 
Yes, because the most pressing problems change, that's what conservatives are so stupid, and the republican party platform doesn't change, they refuse to acknowlege the reality of changing world.

YOu bragging like its a good thing republicans policy of hate and fear and give the rich tax cuts haven't change. Like that's a good thing. Oh way, sorry, just more moronic trolling on your part
Is that all you have? Hyperbole?

Never mind.

Anyway, there's no reason to change a platform when the reasons for the policies and actions in the platform haven't gone away.
 
Does anyone know how the RNC wants the debates organized?
 
We’re done debating in this country. It’s all about the numbers now, not ideas. Hence the voter suppression.

Michigan Republicans are cancer

What are they being afraid of ?

That their constant lying, voter suppression and intimidation efforts and fascist policies are getting exposed on the debate stage ?
Voter suppression! Voter suppression! Both parties are trying to set the rules for their own benefit. If only we had a president that could bring us all together…
 
I am perfectly okay with the republican candidate not showing up for a debate.
 
By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.


Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).
...why would Republicans want to debate, they have nothing to say. They stand for nothing as they have no ideology (though they do have an idol)
 
The first debate of 2020 was moderated by Wallace, a Fox guy. Trump came off as a bully, loudmouth, and rude. It was not the moderators fault Trump's true qualities where on full display.

The Republicans cry foul, and take their ball home, when did they become the party of whiners?

Oh ya, 6 Jan 2021.
 
I don't see the point of presidential debates anymore other than getting a zinger in here and there.

And with early voting getting ever earlier how many votes have been cast before the final debate?
 
I don't see the point of presidential debates anymore other than getting a zinger in here and there.
I don't watch them. The candidates are too scripted and overly rehearsed. It's like watching a series of hostage videos.

They never answer the questions anyway. They go off into a monologue of unrelated talking points.
 
I understand they are considering turning over the process to the World Wide Wrestling Federation, but the Democrats are complaining that because this is primarily a venue for entertainment with a close relationship to Donald Trump, it gives the Republicans an unfair advantage.

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By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.


Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).
Blame trump. He was the idiot who got down in the sewer.
 
The Republican Party is shedding the traditional trappings of a presidential campaign. There was, as an example, no formal Republican Party platform in the 2020 convention.

For those who enjoy novelty, the Republicans put on quite a show.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n remember the Big 5.
 
By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.


Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).
The only pledge any politician should make is a Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, and Honor The Oath of Office.

People did not vote for a person to be led and controlled by a Gang Cult, They vote for people to be "independently focused on representing" principles and values that serve the region, that means, the concern and matter of both the majority and minority in the district/region they won.

We've seen what results from Republican Pushing "Gang Pledges"... we saw it in 2008..... !!!! Full on Obstructionist is what they pledged.

It's time for people to face the RAW TRUTH. The Republican Party is NOW the Modern Day Confederates who Hijacked The Label of Republicans, They have been trying to bring down American Representative Democracy from "within" our Congress and we saw Trump try to be the Modern Day Jefferson Davis and lead that charge from the Seat of The Presidency.

It's time for American People to Stand Together Against this Seditious, and Subversive Organization, composed of bigots, race bias, gender bias promoters of autocratic plutocracy.
 
American History tells you the vicious and malice motivations that the Confederacy Engages, and people who are aware see the parallels in what goes by the name of Republicans. Libertarian Right, and Right Leading types that claim other labels. We've seen 157 yrs of their savagery agenda against the United States and the past 4 yrs of Trump we saw and attack on our Allied Nations and a pandering to any and every Autocrat and Dictator and Tyrant on the planet.

They don't want to Debate, because people have gotten wise to the fact that all their attack claims, is a disclosure of they themselves are doing. The people are no longer hoodwinked by their "deflections" and attempts at "misdirection of attention".

They have attacked ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that is put up for Legislation that will help the working class, and the poor, they have attacked continuously any and every effort to put regulatory controls on greed programming, environmental and improvements in educational access for young people. They have spent their time trying to 'take the voice of vote" from the American Citizens who don't aspire to their Gang Cult. That is what Autocracy looks like and is.
The wealthy have been given a massive tax cut, which conveys the fact they do not want to contribute to the nation and societies best interest, but only to hoard money for the sake of power to function like Plutocrats.... Their aspiration are Autocratic Plutocracy, where they create a form of Oligarchy, which is parallel to making themselves liken to Tyrants.

People should think and remember... everything that works for the people, has been attacked by Modern Day Republicanism and the Divisiveness Promotions they use continually as a tool in their aims and objective.






 
shrug...

Very few people watch debates anymore. They just wait and see what their favorite biased news/opinion source says about it...with appropriate out of context video/sound bites.

No great loss.
Projecting again, Mycroft.
 
What are they being afraid of ?

That their constant lying, voter suppression and intimidation efforts and fascist policies are getting exposed on the debate stage ?
They apparently are not afraid. They only have one objective now, power at any cost based on racist ideals.
 
Just imagine a debate post 1/6 hearings. 🍿

Of course, the Republican party is up to their receding hairlines in seditious activity does not want to debate anyone. If they did they would have to plead the 5th.
 
It would be even worse for a mini-Trump like Desantis. His answers would be, "Uhhh, whatever Donald thinks."

I suspect the RNC looked at the 2020 debates and realized what a disaster Trump was. Then they looked at 2024 where either Trump would return and be a disaster again, or some mini-Trump would participate and likewise look like a fool. So, they are just avoiding it all together. Cowards!
Not cowards, realists. They realized the debates did not serve them well, so they're re-thinking them, that's all. "The commission is unfair" is just the premise. I personally believe what they are doing is running a flag up the pole to see who salutes. They need to see which way the wind blows. Nothing is set in stone. yet. Remember, both parties have always had to agree to the terms in the past. That's not going to change. The idea that the RNC will quit the debates long before the terms are worked out is just stupid, IMO.
 
For years the Republicans have been fighting for a non-bias group of people to control the questioning during the debate. What they keep getting are talking heads from a biased media who are overwhelmingly registered Democrats. Apparently they have reached a point of no longer putting up with their circus.
 
Nope. Just stating facts.

You don't agree with what I said? Tell me about it.
Mycroft: I don't watch debates anymore. I just wait and see what my favorite biased news/opinion source says about it...
There, I fixed it for you.

BTW, you really should tell us more about all the obvious voter fraud you have uncovered. We're just giddy about what you have to prove that at least 7 million fraudulent votes stole the election from Trump. Please, don't keep us in suspense any longer!
 
By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.


Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).
I think that the Democrats should go to the "debate" even if the Republicans aren't going to show up.

The first half hour would be a series of

MODERATOR:- The issue is _[fill in the blank]_. Now _[fill in Democratic candidate's name]_ what is your position on it. You have three minutes.

[CAMERA PANS ON PODIUM WITH DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE STANDING BEHIND IT]

DEMOCRAT:- _[fill in the blank with three minutes of exposition on the topic]_.

MODERATOR:- Thank you. And now_[fill in Republican candidate's name]_ what is your position on it. You have three minutes.

[CAMERA PANS ON PODIUM WITH NO ONE STANDING BEHIND IT]

:: THREE MINUTES OF DEAD AIR::

MODERATOR: - Well, you've heard what the Democrats and the Republicans have to say about that issue. The next issue is
_[fill in the blank]_. Now _[fill in Democratic candidate's name]_ what is your position on it. You have three minutes.

[CAMERA PANS ON PODIUM WITH DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE STANDING BEHIND IT]

DEMOCRAT:- _[fill in the blank with three minutes of exposition on the topic]_.

MODERATOR:- Thank you. And now_[fill in Republican candidate's name]_ what is ....
The rest of the three hours can be used for a national open line where Americans can call in and ask questions of the candidate(s).

[Persons calling from a telephone number that is NOT registered to the name that they give would NOT be allowed through. There would be a text warning constantly running at the bottom of the screen telling callers that all calls were being recorded and that the associated telephone numbers were also being recorded.]
 
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