R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates

[Utility Man]

 

[Common Sense 1]

By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.

R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates (Published 2022)

The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates. What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.

www.nytimes.com

Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).

Again I would ask why a noncitizen makes silly comments that have zero bearing in fact.
And then calling the republican party fascist? Just democratic talking points.
The republicans are in charge of nothing right now. The current mess has been caused by the hapless Democrats.

The commission is not a neutral party any more. Glad they will soon be out of business.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.

R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates (Published 2022)

The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates. What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.

www.nytimes.com

Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).

Maybe all you lefties were born yesterday, but the grownup's have seen how biased and corrupt the debates are . And Yes the DEM's are the most corrup !

Do you recall CNN giving Killary the Question before the Debate ?....
Or how Fox tried their hardest to avoid Ron Pau, who was the BEST candidate of modern time ? ....



You people RELLY need to stop being Pawns of the DC Status Quo/Media!

 

[Deuce]

The presidential "debates" are just people reciting canned lines on pre-determined subjects. An illusion to convince the masses they are more tuned in than they really are.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

If I was the Democrats, I would schedule the debate anyway, wait for the GOP candidate to inevitably not show up, then try to paint them as a coward/spin a narrative that they have no new ideas or answers to hard questions. After that I'd fill the rest of the time and publicity by talking about how good my policies will be without any pushback. Easy PR win.

Agreed!
Paint Republicans as cowards. Use Eastwood's "empty chair"!

 

[Ikari]

The presidential "debates" are just people reciting canned lines on pre-determined subjects. An illusion to convince the masses they are more tuned in than they really are.

They've been a dog and pony show for some time. Just something for the Republocrats to strut around on stage and repeat little stump speeches.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

I'm telling you guys, not showing up to a debate is a massive free PR win for Democrats. The optics of it for the GOP just look so bad. It's not just free ammo, it a free fully loaded fully automatic gun and a free barn sized target. The campaign ads write themselves.

As a generic example:
"They thought they had what it takes to run for office, but now they are running from the debate. What makes you think they won't run away from our country's problems too?"

 

[Deuce]

I'm telling you guys, not showing up to a debate is a massive free PR win for Democrats. The optics of it for the GOP just look so bad. It's not just free ammo, it a free fully loaded fully automatic gun and a free barn sized target. The campaign ads write themselves.

As a generic example:
"They thought they had what it takes to run for office, but now they are running from the debate. What makes you think they won't run away from our country's problems too?"

It's not aimed at the masses. Its aimed at their own base. It's playing to that "mainstream meeeeedia is against us! Everyone is against us! It's all rigged, trust only us" streak of theirs. Classic cult tactics, you have to convince your in-group that everyone else in the world is against them, stay here in the safety of the in-group because the out-group wants to hurt you.

 

[Ikari]

I'm telling you guys, not showing up to a debate is a massive free PR win for Democrats. The optics of it for the GOP just look so bad. It's not just free ammo, it a free fully loaded fully automatic gun and a free barn sized target. The campaign ads write themselves.

As a generic example:
"They thought they had what it takes to run for office, but now they are running from the debate. What makes you think they won't run away from our country's problems too?"

If the RNC decided not to attend the debates, no one would tune in to watch the Democrats just sauntering about. Maybe they could PR it if they wanted to. I think in the end, the RNC is not going to run from the debates anyway. But if they did, then they should invite the Libertarians.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

It's not aimed at the masses. Its aimed at their own base. It's playing to that "mainstream meeeeedia is against us! Everyone is against us! It's all rigged, trust only us" streak of theirs. Classic cult tactics, you have to convince your in-group that everyone else in the world is against them, stay here in the safety of the in-group because the out-group wants to hurt you.

Well, the thing is that strategy doesn't win any new people over. There are also a lot of republicans that care about the image of supporting someone who is "strong".

I don't think that failing to attend debates will help them politically.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.

R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates (Published 2022)

The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates. What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.

www.nytimes.com

Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).

Republicans are cowards.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Maybe all you lefties were born yesterday, but the grownup's have seen how biased and corrupt the debates are . And Yes the DEM's are the most corrup !

yes. the right is very grown up...

 

[NuffSaid]

Once Tucker and Hannity can as "the tough" questions, everything will be fine.

Hannity - "Oh great, honorable, and patriotic President Trump, the true President in real American's eyes, can you share how patriotic you truly are? There is no time limit."
Hannity - "Ok, American hating Senile Joe, you have 2 seconds to defend why you pulled out of Afghanistan, and why Hunter Biden made $190 trillion dollars from Burisma." 1 - 2 "Times up! see, he's so senile he couldn't answer a simple, straight-forward question."

 

[Nomad4Ever]

If the RNC decided not to attend the debates, no one would tune in to watch the Democrats just sauntering about.

It doesn't matter, all you need is for the Democratic candidate to make some cutting joke about debating an empty chair or something that gets clipped and circulated on Twitter and late night talk shows and you've already come out on top.

I think in the end, the RNC is not going to run from the debates anyway. But if they did, then they should invite the Libertarians.

The libertarian party in the US is a joke, and there are no prominent left libertarians that it would make sense for them to invite.

I suppose there could be value in that it would make the GOP look even more lame when a third party candidate gets the spotlight they would have had. It would also probably get a lot of viewership and make the Democrats look really good.

 

[Ikari]

It doesn't matter, all you need is for the Democratic candidate to make some cutting joke about debating an empty chair or something that gets clipped and circulated on Twitter and late night talk shows and you've already come out on top.

The libertarian party in the US is a joke, and there are no prominent left libertarians that it would make sense for them to invite.

I suppose there could be value in that it would make the GOP look even more lame when a third party candidate gets the spotlight they would have had. It would also probably get a lot of viewership and make the Democrats look really good.

I don't think they'd really want too far a left libertarian. I think the effort would be to get the LP bigger exposure and leech votes out of the GOP.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

I see this differently, apparently. This looks to me like Trump wants to monetize the debates in 2024.

 

[HenryChinaski]

By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.

R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates (Published 2022)

The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates. What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.

www.nytimes.com

Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).

Hard to take part in a legit debate when you have no platform.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

Hard to take part in a legit debate when you have no platform.

Didn't stop Trump from trying. On the contrary it is much easier to debate when you don't care about defending any positions and only care about making your opponent look bad.

 

[Roadvirus]

By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.

R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates (Published 2022)

The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates. What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.

www.nytimes.com

Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).

The debate FORMAT needs tweaking.

And who get's to participate is also a problem. The last Prez election, especially during the PRIMARIES, in regards to debates was a clown show. Especially on the Dems' side.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

Hard to take part in a legit debate when you have no platform.

It would be even worse for a mini-Trump like Desantis. His answers would be, "Uhhh, whatever Donald thinks."

I suspect the RNC looked at the 2020 debates and realized what a disaster Trump was. Then they looked at 2024 where either Trump would return and be a disaster again, or some mini-Trump would participate and likewise look like a fool. So, they are just avoiding it all together. Cowards!

 

[Roadvirus]

We need more than two people debating anyways. Let them destroy it.

The pissing match during the Dem Primaries was insane in regards to who got to appear. Having to reach a certain polling percentage threshold? That's BS to the max! And then there was the monkeyshines with tweaking the rules to allow Bloomberg in, but excluding someone else.

 

[Mycroft]

Hard to take part in a legit debate when you have no platform.

No problem. Just do like the Dems do: Claim a platform to appease the masses and then do whatever the hell you want to do.

 

[HenryChinaski]

No problem. Just do like the Dems do: Claim a platform to appease the masses and then do whatever the hell you want to do.

Health care, energy conservation, infrastructure, National Security, pollution, Those things constitute a platform. Still waiting on Donald's big awesome health care plan by the way.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

By Maggie Haberman
Jan. 13, 2022
12:29 p.m. ET

The Republican National Committee is preparing to change its rules to require presidential candidates seeking the party’s nomination to sign a pledge to not participate in any debates sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Republican committee officials alerted the debate commission to their plans in a letter sent on Thursday, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times. If the change goes forward, it would be one of the most substantial shifts in how presidential and vice-presidential debates have been conducted since the commission began organizing debates more than 30 years ago.

The nonprofit commission, founded by the two parties in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, describes itself as nonpartisan. But Republicans have complained for nearly a decade that its processes favor the Democrats, mirroring increasing rancor from conservatives toward Washington-based institutions.

The move by the R.N.C. was an outgrowth of those long-held complaints and came after months of discussions between the commission and party officials. According to the R.N.C.’s letter, the chairman of the party’s temporary presidential debate committee, David Bossie, began discussions last year with the debate commission’s co-chairman, Frank Fahrenkopf, a former Republican official.

The Republican Party chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, had demanded that changes be made to the commission and how the debates were held, writing in a letter to the commission in June that the party and its voters had lost faith in the commission.

R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates (Published 2022)

The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates. What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.

www.nytimes.com

Disgusting anti-democratic, unstatesmanlike behavior by the Republican Party (which increasingly becomes more and more fascist).

Of course, they have no platform, they have nothing to offer. That's also why they are fighting voter rights and Trump losers are getting in election boards, to help rig future elections, as well as put in laws to make it harder to vote. THey know their scumbag constituency are the vast minority and if people vote, republicans will never get elected again on their corrupt, do nothing ways

 

[Mycroft]

Health care, energy conservation, infrastructure, National Security, pollution, Those things constitute a platform. Still waiting on Donald's big awesome health care plan by the way.

The Republican platform hasn't changed since 2016.

However, like I said about the Dems...appease the masses and do what you want.