Questions for Christians Regarding Jews

Davey · Feb 16, 2018

nota bene said:
I don't disagree with you. I'm saying only that my sister and brother-in-law utterly rejected all this. They weren't novices; they were very well known leaders in their world, and they were supremely confident of their powers of healing and all of that.

But I will share with you and all something I find "interesting": After my sister died, my brother-in-law became very angry with his gods because they didn't help him and dumped them. Went shopping for new ones, found one, and changed his spirit name (or whatever) to that.

The only way to break that yoke is through the spiritual realm. In regards to your brother-in-law, Someone needs to, preferably a relative. or have a Pentecostal minister by proxy. Or you do it. Take authority over your brother-in-law and pray for him through the blood of and in the name of Jesus.

First thing you need to do if you are not a Christian is to become a Christian yourself. That would require that you realize that you are in fact a sinner in need of a savior. You need to look to God, acknowledge to Him that Jesus is his son, confess your sins, ask for forgiveness and ask that Jesus become Lord and savior of your life.

If you've already done that then bypass that and go directly to this... Use the name of Jesus spoken of here previously because it really works. Come in the name of Jesus, call upon his name.

Rebuke all spiritual wickedness and powers and rulers of the darkness and all spiritual wickedness in high places, take authority over all of them and command them to the cease-and-desist in they're maneuvers.

In the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus. Just keep repeating it/ Walk around your house hold your hands in the air and just start praying what's on your heart. that's about all I know.

Disclaimer: There's an adage that the best thing Christians can do for the kingdom of Satan is to do nothing at all. I only say that to say this... If you are not spiritually equipped with the spiritual knowledge, and the responsibilities in the powers and the risk that go with it, I would just advise you to go into this Eyes Wide Open.

You are going to piss the devil off. He is a liar, he is a deceiver, he is a serpent, he is cunning, he is subtle. He's going to come at you Every Which Way to Sunday. Just something to think about.

devildavid · Feb 16, 2018

zyzygy said:
But the Lamb of God’s powers do not remain dormant for long. In one book, Jesus is described as playing by a stream with some other children. While the other children are probably just splashing around, Jesus is digging pools of water next to the bank, in which he forms statues of birds out of the muddy clay. Being a miracle-worker, he then turns the bird-statues into real, living birds, which then fly away. Observing this, a child comes by and proceeds to splash the water in the pools with a stick. Jesus does not take kindly to his playmate’s antics, and uses his spell-casting powers to wreak vengeance on him:

“O evil, ungodly, and foolish one, what hurt did the pools and the

waters do thee? Behold, now also thou shalt be withered like a tree,

and shalt not bear leaves, neither root, nor fruit.” And straightway that

lad withered up wholly.

— Infancy Gospel of Thomas 3:2-3

Read more at https://www.themonastery.org/blog/2011/01/jesus-the-child-killing-dragon-tamer/#H02QAFvmYaT6PUwc.99

zyzygy said:
Why is any of that less believable than walking on water, bringing the dead back to life etc....?

Maybe it doesn't have the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval.

devildavid · Feb 16, 2018

Davey said:
He has a way to communicate with us directly, in fact he's given us two ways. One of course is the aforementioned Word of God, the Bible. the second is through his son Jesus Christ and the power that His name brings.

The proof is in the pudding. People deny that there was a great worldwide flood because as the Bible states that the flood was God's judgement on people of that day. And people don't want to be judged by God so they deny that his 1st judgment ever happened, because they don't want to be reminded that a second judgement is coming.

People who hate God today want to destroy and smear his name into Oblivion. They have tried for years but his Word continues to be the best selling book every year after year and his Son, Jesus is his name, His lite continues to get brighter and brighter as more and more people hate Him.

So I would say if you don't believe God has given us a way to communicate with Him, I say try it for yourself and see. That's a difference between my argument and perhaps someone else's. I can prove it by saying go do it.

Go read it. There is power in his Word. Call upon his name, the name of Jesus, and see what that will do in your life. The name of Jesus is the most powerful name in the world. That's proof right there.

If you have any friends who are witches or warlocks or read tarot cards or anything in of the spiritual Realm, you ask them what is the one name if any, that is feared throughout the spiritual world?

Hands down every one of them if they are honest will tell you that the name of Jesus makes their whole world tremble in fear. The power of the name of Jesus knows no boundaries. It is the name that is above all other names, it is the name that everyone will confess both Believers and non-believers come Judgement Day. Every knee is going to bow in front of Jesus and every tongue is going to confess yes Jesus you are my Lord or Jesus I never accepted you but yes it is all true you are Lord.

Everyone will bow to him, everyone! And his name is Jesus.

It's crazy I know but it's true.

Are you for real?

zyzygy · Feb 16, 2018

devildavid said:
Are you for real?

Nah, troll.

devildavid · Feb 16, 2018

zyzygy said:
Nah, troll.

I strongly suspect that.

Davey · Feb 16, 2018

devildavid said:
Are you for real?

Yes. Thank you for asking.

Davey · Feb 16, 2018

devildavid said:
I strongly suspect that.

That's disappointing to hear you and ‘z’ say you think I'm a troll. I won't respond to your post anymore.

I was trying to have an intelligent conversation and answer questions. I can do that and not converse with you good folks, so I will ignore you.

To any and everyone else that may have or may read my post, I say to you I am not a troll. If you think I am please don't respond to my post. I'm looking for intelligent banter and good debate and enjoyment doing it. That's all I'm here for.

Dilly Dilly

Davey · Feb 16, 2018

devildavid said:
Maybe it doesn't have the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval.

That is the first I ever read that passage. I'm thinking while reading it, that's certainly not in the Bible. Then of course at the end I see it's in the book of Thomas, which of course is the Catholic Bible.

Yeah I can see why that's not in the Word of God. That's trash that passage there is blasphemy.

RAMOSS · Feb 16, 2018

zyzygy said:
Nah, troll.

I am going to have to disagree with you. Although very rigid in the religious beliefs, when I challenged and asked for a clarification for a term, Davy was able to respond and give a very satisfactory answer. I don't agree with him , particularly theologically , but a troll would not have been able to clarify and respond in a clear and concise manner, but would rather have gotten defensive. The rigid religious attitude is not uncommon , particularly in the bible belt.

vesper · Feb 20, 2018

Lord Tammerlain said:
As I recall most Christian denominations state that a belief in Christ and following him is one vital condition for going to heaven upon death. As the vast majority of jewish people do not follow or believe in Jesus, do Jews go to heaven upon death, or go somewhere else despite being the chosen people?As I recall most Christian denominations state that a belief in Christ and following him is one vital condition for going to heaven upon death. As the vast majority of jewish people do not follow or believe in Jesus, do Jews go to heaven upon death, or go somewhere else despite being the chosen people?

I have stated several times that G-d has two sheep pens. John 10:16 vouches for that.

But in John it also reveals why many Jews do not recognize Yeshua as Messiah just two chapters over.

John 12:39-40

…39 For this reason they were unable to believe. For again, Isaiah says: 40“He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so that they cannot see with their eyes, and understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.” 41Isaiah said these things because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about Him.

So my question is why did G-d harden their hearts and blind their eyes? Well, my thoughts are so that the Gospel would go forth to all people with a remnant of Jews who believed. And that it did and the results have been miraculous.

You see the Jews were chosen to be the ones to bring witness to the true G-d. They were not known for their evangelistic approach. When Yeshua showed up they had become such an elite group that had placed so many manmade laws on the people to keep them clean and holy that they made the burden so impossible for Jews to follow. And proselytes? They were looked at as second, third class citizens. Hardly welcoming to outsiders wanting a relationship with G-d. In fact the court G-d included in His temple for the Gentiles of all nations, the Jewish leadership turned the court of the Gentiles into a place for money changers and the sell of sacrificial animals. Right there tells you what they thought of their " beloved Goyim"

My thoughts are that G-d wanted to provide salvation to all the world but unless he blinded the eyes and harden the hearts of the Jewish leaders it would never happen. A remnant of Jewish believers spread the Gospel. And what a wonderful job they did. It was by divine design that the Gentiles would be grafted onto the Tree of Life.

In closing I believe it is very wrong for a Gentile to proclaim Jews are not saved. They are of another sheep pen. As Isaiah stated they have been taught through blinded eyes and harden hearts by design of G-d. But they do love G-d and many do keep His ways with much more effort than most church goers. Once again, G-d has two sheep pens.

Where the leadership in the Jewish faith during the time of Yesuha was such a failure the Church today is experiencing the same failures ironically today. At least that is the way I see it.

I know for a fact all the Spring Feasts in G-d's calendar have been fulfilled in Yeshua. The time of harvest between the Spring and Fall in G-d's calendar is coming to an end and the Fall Feasts will be fulfilled any day.

zyzygy · Feb 21, 2018

vesper said:
I have stated several times that G-d has two sheep pens. John 10:16 vouches for that.

But in John it also reveals why many Jews do not recognize Yeshua as Messiah just two chapters over.

John 12:39-40

…39 For this reason they were unable to believe. For again, Isaiah says: 40“He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so that they cannot see with their eyes, and understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.” 41Isaiah said these things because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about Him.

So my question is why did G-d harden their hearts and blind their eyes? Well, my thoughts are so that the Gospel would go forth to all people with a remnant of Jews who believed. And that it did and the results have been miraculous.

You see the Jews were chosen to be the ones to bring witness to the true G-d. They were not known for their evangelistic approach. When Yeshua showed up they had become such an elite group that had placed so many manmade laws on the people to keep them clean and holy that they made the burden so impossible for Jews to follow. And proselytes? They were looked at as second, third class citizens. Hardly welcoming to outsiders wanting a relationship with G-d. In fact the court G-d included in His temple for the Gentiles of all nations, the Jewish leadership turned the court of the Gentiles into a place for money changers and the sell of sacrificial animals. Right there tells you what they thought of their " beloved Goyim"

My thoughts are that G-d wanted to provide salvation to all the world but unless he blinded the eyes and harden the hearts of the Jewish leaders it would never happen. A remnant of Jewish believers spread the Gospel. And what a wonderful job they did. It was by divine design that the Gentiles would be grafted onto the Tree of Life.

In closing I believe it is very wrong for a Gentile to proclaim Jews are not saved. They are of another sheep pen. As Isaiah stated they have been taught through blinded eyes and harden hearts by design of G-d. But they do love G-d and many do keep His ways with much more effort than most church goers. Once again, G-d has two sheep pens.

Where the leadership in the Jewish faith during the time of Yesuha was such a failure the Church today is experiencing the same failures ironically today. At least that is the way I see it.

I know for a fact all the Spring Feasts in G-d's calendar have been fulfilled in Yeshua. The time of harvest between the Spring and Fall in G-d's calendar is coming to an end and the Fall Feasts will be fulfilled any day.

When? Or is that just another failed bible prophecy?

Logicman · Feb 21, 2018

RAMOSS said:
I am going to have to disagree with you. Although very rigid in the religious beliefs, when I challenged and asked for a clarification for a term, Davy was able to respond and give a very satisfactory answer. I don't agree with him , particularly theologically , but a troll would not have been able to clarify and respond in a clear and concise manner, but would rather have gotten defensive. The rigid religious attitude is not uncommon , particularly in the bible belt.

I don't ever recall through all the years any Biblically-based Christian you ever agreed with on doctrine or historical matters.

RAMOSS · Feb 22, 2018

Logicman said:
I don't ever recall through all the years any Biblically-based Christian you ever agreed with on doctrine or historical matters.

I didn't say I agree with his interpetation, I said he wasn't a troll. He is willing to do an honest exchange of beliefs.. unlike some

it's just me · Feb 22, 2018

zyzygy said:
Nah, troll.

Who are you calling a troll??????

:lamo

Barny · Feb 22, 2018

Elvira said:
Are you serious? If I have to explain something as simple as that to you...there's no hope for you....SMH...

Love, joy, peace, long suffering.....

John Prewett · Mar 10, 2018

Lord Tammerlain said:
As I recall most Christian denominations state that a belief in Christ and following him is one vital condition for going to heaven upon death. ...........

Let's stop right there.

The pertinent fact is that Christians believe Christ Himself said “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"

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