Yeah it's modern day religion.My suggestion is for anyone to read the link despite the blocker on it. Which basically says that unless co2 emissions reduction is done then future generations will certainly be ****ed
Oh whether it's going to be bad or not and has yet to be determined but sorry to break it to you the climate has been changing for 25,000 years probably 5 billion.As for our fake scientists who stated this thread do note that again all he ever does is try to dazzle you with numbers and the desperate hope that no one bothers to read his links which always tell us climate change is happening and is going to be bad.
Step away from the Kool aid! Try to read and understand the science for yourself?My suggestion is for anyone to read the link despite the blocker on it. Which basically says that unless co2 emissions reduction is done then future generations will certainly be ****ed
As for our fake scientists who stated this thread do note that again all he ever does is try to dazzle you with numbers and the desperate hope that no one bothers to read his links which always tell us climate change is happening and is going to be bad.
Source?Being scientifically skeptical about the idea that added CO2 can cause catastrophic warming, makes me look for inconsistencies.
There was a follow on study about the lab between CO2 emissions and maximum warming that caught my attention.
The time lag between a carbon dioxide emission and maximum warming increases with the size of the emission
The graph shows the time between emission and maximum warming for 3 different pulse sizes 100 GtC, 1000 GtC, and 5000 GtC.
with the simulations run on one of the GCM models and run out to 1000 years.
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The starting CO2 level was 389 ppm, with 100 GtC pulse increasing the CO2 level to 436 ppm,
the 1000 GtC pulse increasing the CO2 level to 859 ppm,
and the 5000 GtC pluse increasing the CO2 level to 2736 ppm.
The Y axes scale is K per 1000 GtC, so the 2 for 100 GtC becomes 0.2C of maximum warming , and the ~1.5C for 5000 GtC becomes 7.5C,
The 1000 GtC is the sacle on the graph at ~1.78C
Normalizing the responses to 2XCO2 provides VERY different sensitivities.
The smaller 47 ppm pulse has a 2XCO2 sensitivity of 1.21 C,
The mid range 470 ppm pulse has a 2XCO2 sensitivity of 1.55C,
while the high 2736 ppm pulse has a 2XCO2 sensitivity of 2.66C
The inconsistency is that the sensitivity should be about the same if the simulation is run out to 1000 years.
ECS being a 2XCO2 or a 4XCO2 pulse, would produce a higher sensitivity.
Also what dose this mean for actual CO2 step increases which average 2.5 ppm per year?
Based on the trend , The normal increases in the CO2 level of 2.5 ppm per year, would have an even lower
sensitivity than the smallest 47 ppm pulse!
He's addicted to the Kool-Aid.Step away from the Kool aid! Try to read and understand the science for yourself?
You're a denier which is essentially an apostate it doesn't matter if you actually deny climate change or not what matters is you don't believe the Canon.If you think any of my calculations are off, you can point out the errors?
Carbon dioxide is naturally occurring to the atmosphere and ice core samples from hundreds of millennia ago show that when the planet was warmer there was a much higher carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere.Yes, carbon dioxide (CO2) is a major cause of global warming
.
Here's why:
1. CO2 is a greenhouse gas:
2. Human activities have increased CO2 concentrations:
- CO2 absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation, trapping heat in the Earth's atmosphere, similar to how glass traps heat in a greenhouse.
- This natural process, known as the greenhouse effect, is essential for maintaining a habitable temperature on Earth.
3. Increased CO2 amplifies the greenhouse effect:
- The burning of fossil fuels (coal, oil, and natural gas), deforestation, and industrial processes release large amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere.
- Atmospheric CO2 concentrations are now significantly higher than pre-industrial levels.
4. Scientific consensus:
- Higher CO2 concentrations mean more heat is trapped, leading to a rise in global average temperatures.
- This enhanced greenhouse effect is the primary driver of the current global warming trend.
In summary: Increased CO2 from human activities enhances the Earth's natural greenhouse effect, trapping more heat and causing global warming.
- Multiple lines of evidence and a vast body of scientific research confirm the link between increased CO2 and global warming.
- The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a leading international body for assessing the science related to climate change, concludes that it is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land.
- Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide * Each year, human activities release more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than natural processes can remove, caus...
Climate.gov Home
- FAQ: Carbon Dioxide and Climate Change
Carbon dioxide accounts for two-thirds of the global warming currently caused by human activities, with other compounds such as methane, nitrous oxide, halocarb...
Scripps Institution of Oceanography |
- The greenhouse effect - British Geological Survey
Greenhouse gases. ... A greenhouse gas is called that because it absorbs infrared radiation from the Sun in the form of heat, which is circulated in the atmosph...
BGS - British Geological Survey
It is just a religion to you.Yeah it's modern day religion.
Oh whether it's going to be bad or not and has yet to be determined but sorry to break it to you the climate has been changing for 25,000 years probably 5 billion.
Your dishonesty is always obvious. Anyone just needs to read the link to understand how you cherry pick and then pretend the link backs you. Can you point to anything in that link besides your cherry picked maths that backs you.Step away from the Kool aid! Try to read and understand the science for yourself?
If you think any of my calculations are off, you can point out the errors?
None of what I said disagrees!Yes, carbon dioxide (CO2) is a major cause of global warming
.
Here's why:
1. CO2 is a greenhouse gas:
2. Human activities have increased CO2 concentrations:
- CO2 absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation, trapping heat in the Earth's atmosphere, similar to how glass traps heat in a greenhouse.
- This natural process, known as the greenhouse effect, is essential for maintaining a habitable temperature on Earth.
3. Increased CO2 amplifies the greenhouse effect:
- The burning of fossil fuels (coal, oil, and natural gas), deforestation, and industrial processes release large amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere.
- Atmospheric CO2 concentrations are now significantly higher than pre-industrial levels.
4. Scientific consensus:
- Higher CO2 concentrations mean more heat is trapped, leading to a rise in global average temperatures.
- This enhanced greenhouse effect is the primary driver of the current global warming trend.
In summary: Increased CO2 from human activities enhances the Earth's natural greenhouse effect, trapping more heat and causing global warming.
- Multiple lines of evidence and a vast body of scientific research confirm the link between increased CO2 and global warming.
- The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a leading international body for assessing the science related to climate change, concludes that it is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land.
- Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide * Each year, human activities release more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than natural processes can remove, caus...
Climate.gov Home
- FAQ: Carbon Dioxide and Climate Change
Carbon dioxide accounts for two-thirds of the global warming currently caused by human activities, with other compounds such as methane, nitrous oxide, halocarb...
Scripps Institution of Oceanography |
- The greenhouse effect - British Geological Survey
Greenhouse gases. ... A greenhouse gas is called that because it absorbs infrared radiation from the Sun in the form of heat, which is circulated in the atmosph...
BGS - British Geological Survey
I can show all my work, can you say why you think I am wrong?Your dishonesty is always obvious. Anyone just needs to read the link to understand how you cherry pick and then pretend the link backs you. Can you point to anything in that link besides your cherry picked maths that backs you.
I am not interested in your cherry picked crap. I am more interested in why your link does not back your climate denial bullshit maths.I can show all my work, can you say why you think I am wrong?
The data is published in a peer reviewed scientific journal, why do you not accept the data?
It's always reality to the faithful.It is just a religion to you.
To a degree perhaps. Not sure it's worth all the hysteria.Of course it has. But now we have humans excellarating it.
Just as your denialism is a reality to you.It's always reality to the faithful.
To a degree perhaps. Not sure it's worth all the hysteria.
The study was specifically about the lag between CO2 emissions and the maximum warming resulting from those emissions( assuming 2XCO2 forcing works like the IPCC thinks).I am not interested in your cherry picked crap. I am more interested in why your link does not back your climate denial bullshit maths.
The study shows that co2 needs to be curbed now or future generations will be living in a shit hell hole.The study was specifically about the lag between CO2 emissions and the maximum warming resulting from those emissions( assuming 2XCO2 forcing works like the IPCC thinks).
Not actually a question of the study, so that may be the author’s subjective opinions.The study shows that co2 needs to be curbed now or future generations will be living in a shit hell hole.
I don't care about being a heretic in your religion.Just as your denialism is a reality to you.
You don't see me evangelizing here declaring My religion be truth and that you must accept it or you're a denier do you?Not sure or its just that it goes against your religion.
So quit living in a house buying things from a supermarket and living on an island with a large population. Do you know how much it costs CO2 to ship crap to New Zealand?The study shows that co2 needs to be curbed now or future generations will be living in a shit hell hole.
Of course I cannot quote because you deliberately chose a link hidden behind a blocker.Not actually a question of the study, so that may be the author’s subjective opinions.
Can you quote what they actually said, and then describe how it directly ties to the subject of the study?
The study by the way was a follow up on another study showing that for small emission pulses the lag between emission and maximum warming is about a decade. They showed the graph to demonstrate that the lag was strongly dependent on pulse size, but inadvertently also showed the climate sensitivity varied by pulse size! The smaller the pulse, the lower the sensitivity.
Why would I want to be tolerant of people who deny science because it does not fit into their ideology?I don't care about being a heretic in your religion.
You don't see me evangelizing here declaring My religion be truth and that you must accept it or you're a denier do you?
That goes to me being a lot more tolerant than you.
Another example of make something sound stupid and stupid people will believe it.So quit living in a house buying things from a supermarket and living on an island with a large population. Do you know how much it costs CO2 to ship crap to New Zealand?
Why is it in every religion the worst offenders are the ones that preach the loudest?
There is nothing wrong with the link to IOP science that I can see.Of course I cannot quote because you deliberately chose a link hidden behind a blocker.
Best I can do is read it something you hope no one will do because it does not back your denialist bullshit.
Perhaps the research gate link will work for you.The study shows that co2 needs to be curbed now or future generations will be living in a shit hell hole.
Because Human style emissions could easily be looked at as annual step increases (Pulses) of about 2.5 ppm,This implies that the warming commitment from past CO2 emissions is small, and that future warming will largely be determined by current and future CO2 emissions.
That link is not paywalled if that is what you mean.Of course I cannot quote because you deliberately chose a link hidden behind a blocker.
Best I can do is read it something you hope no one will do because it does not back your denialist bullshit.
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