Putin's people acting like damned animals again.

[Rogue Valley]

LOL, typical, worry about the folks halfway around the world while not noticing what's right up in your own grill. Very typical. *sigh*

Don't you have your "European White Superiorty" ideology to push?

 

[Tigerace117]

Stepan Bandera was assassinated by the Kremlin 63 years ago.

Bandera’s cronies were complicit in the Holocaust and attempted to wipe out the Polish populace of Volhynia and Eastern Galicia, slaughtering tens of thousands in the process. He was also personally a terrorist, having orchestrated the murder of the Polish minister of the Interior.

Assassination of Bronisław Pieracki - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bandera got precisely what he deserved.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Bandera’s cronies were complicit in the Holocaust

It's odd then that he was never charged at Nuremburg or Jerusalem.

 

[Tigerace117]

It's odd then that he was never charged at Nuremburg or Jerusalem.

He lucked out. The Cold War was heating up and the West cared far more about accessing a ready made network of agents within the Ukrainian SSR than they did holding him accountable. It’s the same reason Klaus Barbie escaped justice for so long(value to an intelligence agency, to be precise).

“ Historian Karel Berkhoff, among others, has shown that Bandera, his deputies, and the Nazis shared a key obsession, namely the notion that the Jews in Ukraine were behind Communism and Stalinist imperialism and must be destroyed. “The Jews of the Soviet Union,” read a Banderist statement, “are the most loyal supporters of the Bolshevik Regime and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in the Ukraine.” When the Germans invaded the USSR in June 1941 and captured the East Galician capital of Lvov, Bandera’s lieutenants issued a declaration of independence in his name. They further promised to work closely with Hitler, then helped to launch a pogrom that killed four thousand Lvov Jews in a few days, using weapons ranging from guns to metal poles. “We will lay your heads at Hitler’s feet,” a Banderist pamphlet proclaimed to Ukrainian Jews.

After the war Bandera lived in Munich. British intelligence used him to help run agents into Ukraine to gather intelligence and to help the Ukrainian underground against the Soviets. The CIA used some of Bandera’s former cronies for similar reasons, but never used Bandera himself, owing to Bandera’s infatuation with his own legend. “Bandera,” said one CIA report from 1948, “is by nature a political intransigent of great personal ambition [who] has…opposed all political organizations in the emigration which favor a representative form of government in the Ukraine, as opposed to a mono-party, OUN/Bandera regime.”

Ukrainian sources confirmed that “fighting people in the homeland … [were] not prepared to accept [Bandera] as a dictator,” and that Bandera’s program “was unacceptable to the resistance movement inside [Ukraine].” In 1952 Bandera temporarily resigned as head of the OUN, pressured “by the growing opposition to his leadership among … top-ranking nationalist leaders who opposed him on the grounds of his totalitarian tactics….” Bandera’s subsequent petulance and his insistence on directing all facets of the Ukrainian underground at home and abroad led the British to drop him in 1953. With no high level contacts to listen to him, Bandera was now on the outside looking in.

Owing to his self-promotion in print and on West German radio, Bandera remained popular with thousands of Ukrainian émigrés in West Germany. His superficial effectiveness prompted West German intelligence (the BND) to establish contact in 1956. By 1959 the BND was helping Bandera to run a new generation of Ukrainian agents from West Germany into the USSR. General Reinhard Gehlen, the head of the BND, had lead German Army intelligence in the USSR during the war. He and his subordinates were surely familiar with Bandera’s wartime record. They were less familiar with the fact that the BND was by now thoroughly penetrated with Soviet agents. On October 14, 1959, Bandera had lunch with senior BND officials to discuss the expansion of operations in Ukraine. The next day the KGB assassinated Bandera in his apartment building.“

“ It is a sad comment on Ukrainian memory that the man declared a Hero of Ukraine in January headed a movement that was deeply involved in the Holocaust. It is more gratifying to know that by the time of Stepan Bandera’s death, most Ukrainian leaders had long rejected him as a dangerous charlatan who harmed his own cause. By the time of his death, Bandera was reduced to dancing with the Cold War’s most compromised intelligence agency, where the Soviets could watch his every move. Those who label him a hero today, in other words, are as foolish as they are offensive.”

Who Was Stepan Bandera?

On January 22, 2010 Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko honored Stepan Bandera by posthumously bestowing on him the state honor, “Hero of Ukraine.&rdqu

historynewsnetwork.org

 

[oneworld2]

Your pro-Kremlin argument is terribly weak when you have dredge up a name that has been dead for 63 years, and you totally ignore that President Zelenskyy is Jewish.

What you are attempting here is no different than equating any current US government with KKK leaders from 60 years ago.

Well the previous Ukrainian govt, in 2018, made 1st January a national holiday to celebrate Banderas life and work. So it's not like his name has been " dredged up" by Nilhus. The Lviv regional council made him " man of the year" for 2019

Seems like he, far from your preferred narrative, is enjoying something of a revival in Ukraine

 

[Rogue Valley]

He lucked out.

Even though everyone knew where he was from 1945-1959, he "lucked out".

You are on a par with QAnon with your historical nonsense.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

Putin can spout his nonsense threats of using nukes, but eventually if he keeps up this terrorist activity, NATO needs to call his bluff, because he and his people and everybody else would be wiped out with any use of nukes. So that should not be a reason to not get involved. And the more this prick keeps this up and the sanctions don't work for his people to oust him, then eventually people need to get involved. Can't hide behind "WWIII" and let that terrorist do what he wants.

I still have no friggen idea what he is trying to do. He must be going mad

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

So that should not be a reason to not get involved. And the more this prick keeps this up and the sanctions don't work for his people to oust him, then eventually people need to get involved

They'll put you to work in the Ukraine military Lloyd.
No need to wait, you can "get involved" RIGHT NOW if its really that important to you.

 

[Tigerace117]

Even though everyone knew where he was from 1945-1959, he "lucked out".

You are on a par with QAnon with your historical nonsense.

As I said before, he certainly did. The West decided it cared far more about using him to recruit intelligence agents within the Ukrainian SSR than it did holding him accountable for his organization’s numerous atrocities. He was far from the only genocidal thug to escape justice during that period. Klaus Barbie likewise escaped justice for decades due to his “value” to western intelligence agencies.

So, I literally explained to you why he wasn’t held accountable(by anyone but the Soviets, who rightfully whacked him in the end). Crying about “Qanon”, therefore, is particularly stupid since it’s a well established historical fact that such individuals were recruited by Western intelligence agencies.