CEngelbrecht
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its a perfect example of putler´s total war against civilization (west- democracy ) . if were a France president i´d support/arm Caucasian, tatar, Yakut , Ural separatism in return
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_of_the_Caucasus
Why do you call Putin "Putler"? Sincere question.
not only me, there are a lot similarities between there 2 dictatorsWhy do you call Putin "Putler"? Sincere question.
PLay on Putin and Hitler ?
It's the Wests answer to everyone
Only when the shoe fits.
"We no loose no war! We stabbed in the back!"
IT's a one size fits all shoe and thus is pretty meaningless
Some others that have been compared to Hitler include Charles Darwin and Walt Disney FFS
https://www.ideagrove.com/blog/44-people-and-1-cat-who-have-been-compared-to-hitler
All it took was losing a war, telling yourselves it was a stab in the back. Both in 1919 and 1991.
The Russians f***ing deserve better.
So you think war with Russia is a good thing for Russians ? Or anyone else ?
IT's a one size fits all shoe and thus is pretty meaningless
Some others that have been compared to Hitler include Charles Darwin and Walt Disney FFS
https://www.ideagrove.com/blog/44-people-and-1-cat-who-have-been-compared-to-hitler
So you think war with Russia is a good thing for Russians ? Or anyone else ?
really, have Charles Darwin and Walt Disney , etc. annexed Crimea & Sudety? like these 2 dictators did ?
Ok, i got here an olgino troll vatnik bingoI never said they have annexed anywhere I am saying that they have been called Hitler by people and they have. Thus the term is just a derogatory slur used by all sorts of people . Would Putin have annexed Crimea had the West and co not conspired to overthrow the government there and install a bunch of Neo Nazis ?
Has the rapid NATO surge Eastward not inflamed the situation with Russia for decades ?
Or do you want everyone to just look the one way ?
what do you mean with "Russians" ?
this group of people, 95% of RF folk
OR
this group of people ?
Putler´s Cooperative Ozero
"The dacha cooperative Ozero was founded on November 10, 1996[1] by Vladimir Smirnov (head), Vladimir Putin,[3] Vladimir Yakunin, Andrei Fursenko, Sergey Fursenko, Yury Kovalchuk, Viktor Myachin, and Nikolay Shamalov [ru].[4] The society united their dachas in Solovyovka, Priozersky District of Leningrad Oblast, on the eastern shore[a] of Lake Komsomolskoye on the Karelian Isthmus, near Saint Petersburg, Russia.[5][6]
Vladimir Putin returned from his KGB posting in Dresden in early 1990, prior to the formal establishment of the Ozero cooperative, and acquired property on the banks of Lake Komsomolskoye. His dacha burned down in 1996 but was rebuilt later that year.[3] Others bought more land around this area and built a number of villas close to each other to form a gated community.[7] A bank account linked to this cooperative association was opened, allowing money to be deposited and used by all account holders in accordance with the Russian law on cooperatives.[8]
By 2012 members of the Ozero cooperative had assumed top positions in Russian government and business and became very successful financially.[5][9][10] "
Has the rapid NATO surge Eastward not inflamed the situation with Russia for decades ?
Russia is a kleptocracy no doubt and authoritarian to boot. That it is obviously so in Russia but less so here in the West even though we also live in a plutocracy/polyarchy. The only reason we don't live under the same kind of authoritarian regime is because we believe the BS we are fed about our own societies . When that stops we will be and are being subjected to more state controls
Regardless , how is a war with Russia going to help those Russians living in poverty anymore than it will help people living in poverty here ?
I really don't understand the logic and see a war between Russia the EU and whoever else as a catastrophe for everyone concerned. Recall Einstein's words...... “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Is that what you really want ?
I know, how dare those vassal states in Eastern Europe choose their own alliances? Don't they understand, that they're Stalin's warloot?
Gorbachew was never promised, that NATO wouldn't expand in the East. Leave revisionism to Pewtin.
Gorbachov was promised no eastern expansion of nato that is not revisionism, however that promise was not a written agreement so it only lasted while ghwb was president and the promise broken as the promise holder left office.
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early#.WjAX9r_XxYI.twitter
Documents declassified in 2017 show putin was correct whether gorbachov wants to admit it or not, the first promise was by the late ghwb in 1989, and in 90-92 many nations assured the soviet union it would not expand eastwards and not just referring to germany but all of eastern europe. The promise was only held until bill clinton became president then a big push eastward of nato occurred.
Why in the hell would Gorbachew, of all people, not want to admit if Bush Senior had indeed promised him that NATO wouldn't expand?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie