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Putin says Western sanctions are akin to declaration of war

VySky said:
She said it was tantamount to attacking all members which Ukraine is included. Many members are NATO countries as well so is it not akin to attacking NATO?
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There is no mutual defense treaty for the UN
 
tacomancer said:
There is no mutual defense treaty for the UN
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That's not the point. She was pouring gas on the fire like the morons calling for Putin to take a round to the head.
 
VySky said:
That's not the point. She was pouring gas on the fire like the morons calling for Putin to take a round to the head.
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Who is “she” that you are referring to?
 
VySky said:
Great. So you have discussed a topic with me from a position of ignorance?
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Ignorance means not knowing information. The fact that I asked a question would mean that I am attempting to gain that information.
 
VySky said:
She said it was tantamount to attacking all members which Ukraine is included. Many members are NATO countries as well so is it not akin to attacking NATO?
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Russia and China are members of the UN. They are not members of NATO.

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Mongidig said:
If he thinks sanctions are war then lets go. It”s time for a targeted airstrikr to take Putin out. In the meantime lets get the no fly zone going. It’s going to happen eventually. Lets not wait for things to get more ugly.
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1) With an economy ranked 12th (before the sanctions) and a 4th rate military that Russia can't afford to maintain, when Putin threatens NATO, he's "punching far above his weight class!"


2) Putin is about to be introduced to the same "hard-lessons" that the Americans were taught in Iraq -

- the invasion of another country is the easy part, the subsequent occupation and dealing with insurgents is far more difficult

- the occupation and pacification of urban areas is particularly difficult, requiring far more troops that required during the initial invasion

- advantages associated with artillery, armor and technological superiority on the battlefield are largely negated in confined urban areas

- combat against insurgents in urban settings is usually an attrition war, reduced to small-scale encounters at close-quarters

- urban warfare is synonymous with high casualty rates, few decisive victories and the erosion of morale - without tangible gains to compensate for the personal sacrifices being made


3) Just as was the case in Iraq, the occupation of Ukraine is part of a familiar pattern - faced with an hostile, defiant populace requires an ever increasing commitment of financial resources, troop numbers and public support (at the cost of their sons and daughters) that eventually far outweighs whatever the benefits Putin may have envisioned, real or otherwise!
 
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jgarden47 said:
1) With an economy ranked 12th (before the sanctions) and a 4th rate military that Russia can't afford to maintain, when Putin threatens NATO, he's "punching far above his weight class!"


2) Putin is about to be introduced to the same "hard-lessons" that the Americans were taught in Iraq -

- the invasion of another country is the easy part, the subsequent occupation and dealing with insurgents is far more difficult

- the occupation and pacification of urban areas is particularly difficult, requiring far more troops that required during the initial invasion

- advantages associated with artillery, armor and technological superiority on the battlefield are largely negated in confined urban areas

- combat against insurgents in urban settings is usually an attrition war, reduced to small-scale encounters at close-quarters

- urban warfare is synonymous with high casualty rates, few decisive victories and the erosion of morale - without tangible gains to compensate for the personal sacrifices being made


3) Just as was the case in Iraq, the occupation of Ukraine is part of a familiar pattern - faced with an hostile, defiant populace requires an ever increasing commitment of financial resources, troop numbers and public support (at the cost of their sons and daughters) that eventually far outweighs whatever the benefits Putin may have envisioned, real or otherwise!
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Putin expected little resistance in an attempt to install a puppet government. He’s in too deep now. We are already in WW3. Lets hope it doesn’t turn Nuclear. It appears India, China and Russia are forging an alliance.
 
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