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Putin and Trump Demand Capitulation of Ukraine

Didn't Trump just raise tariffs on India for buying Russian oil because Russian oil finances the Ukraine war?
 
Didn't Trump just raise tariffs on India for buying Russian oil because Russian oil finances the Ukraine war?
Yes that is what he claimed but remember it is Trump. Actually the Saudi's bought more Russian oil than India in June and they don't have any tariffs. Trump is America's Neville Chamberlain and this meeting is very much like the appeasement of Hitler in the Munich agreement where Chech land as given away without their Govt. present.



"Peace for our time" was a phrase used by British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain in 1938 upon returning from Munich where he had negotiated with Adolf Hitler. He believed the Munich Agreement, which ceded the Sudetenland to Germany, would prevent war. However, the phrase is now remembered for its irony, as World War II began less than a year later.

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Well, NATO was nice while it lasted.
 
Waste of time. The U.S. no longer has any leverage over Ukraine.

Trump also doesn't seem aware that meeting with an American president is a huge win for putin, one that should have required russian concessions beforehand.

So, he is bumbling a useless meeting. Seems standard.
 

And Zelensky just confirmed my opinion by repeating what he's been saying for more than three years: Ukraine will not give up any land to the occupier.

This is solely a public relations win for putin and russian propaganda.
 
Trump also doesn't seem aware that meeting with an American president is a huge win for putin, one that should have required russian concessions beforehand.

Trump doesn't care about either Ukraine or the United States. All he cares about is himself.

His Nobel Peace Prize. His Moscow Trump Tower etc.
 
Trump doesn't care about either Ukraine or the United States. All he cares about is himself.

His Nobel Peace Prize. His Moscow Trump Tower etc.
Ironically Chamberlain also wanted a peace prize and even got nominated for it. It was withdrawn when WWII started and his deal was blamed for it. Trump is going down the same road and will probably strongarm the europeans to go along. The question is will the world make the same mistake that started WWII again? I can only hope not. Thanks to Ukraine Russia is as weak as it has been since the USSR collapsed and can be defeated. The alternative is eternal war in Europe.
 
Waste of time. The U.S. no longer has any leverage over Ukraine.
"You better make a deal or we'll cancel the help that" *checks notes* "Hegseth just cancelled."
 
Trump doesn't care about either Ukraine or the United States. All he cares about is himself.

His Nobel Peace Prize. His Moscow Trump Tower etc.
Trump is too stupid to realize that you don't get a peace prize by feeding countries to a tyrant.
 
Not only did Putin not make a single concession, the deal Trump is pushing is the same one that Russia offered years ago and was rejected as capitulation by Ukraine and it is only for a 30 day ceasefire and Putin will want total control of all of Ukraine or the war will start again. Everyone knows that Ukraine will not give up any territory it is still defending so Trump is setting up an excuse to stop aid to Ukraine and will try to extort Europe to go along too.
 
Trump is too stupid to realize that you don't get a peace prize by feeding countries to a tyrant.
Trump is more than stupid he gets off destroying America's strength and reputation by sucking up to the worst nation and worst dictator on earth.
 
Trump is more than stupid he gets off destroying America's strength and reputation by sucking up to the worst nation and worst dictator on earth.

He's such a fat ****ing spraypainted dictator gimp.
 
I hear the argument from some that Russia wants the return of land to views as once belonging to Russia. President Trump is offering to return land to Russia in exchange for peace. Rather than giving away somebody else's land (Ukraine), Trump shoud give Russia Alaska in exchance for Putin giving Crimea and easthern Ukraine back to the Ukrainians. Alaska belonged to Russia not that long ago.
 

That's yet another interesting idea that will never happen.

Oh, I'm sorry. Is this the part of the day when we all dreamscape alternate futures on our vision boards? I'm in the wrong room.
 
That actually would make more sense than what Trump is doing. I don't think Trump would be allowed to do it anymore than Zelensky would though. Ceding Ukrainian land is against the Ukrainian Constitution and Zelensky could not agree to it even if he wanted to. Trump is delusional as usual.
 
Yep. "Ceding Ukrainian land" (although it's not Ukrainian) is a very hard decision for any Ukrainian leader.
However the constitution can be changed, the referendums can be held, nothing is impossible.
 
Yep. "Ceding Ukrainian land" (although it's not Ukrainian) is a very hard decision for any Ukrainian leader.
However the constitution can be changed, the referendums can be held, nothing is impossible.
Surrendering a million Ukrainians to Russian occupation is unthinkable and giving Russia all the defenses that were built to protect the rest of Ukraine would be suicide. It will never happen.
 
Yep. "Ceding Ukrainian land" (although it's not Ukrainian) is a very hard decision for any Ukrainian leader.
However the constitution can be changed, the referendums can be held, nothing is impossible.
You're not getting that land. Tough shit.
 
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