Pundits Renounce The President (1 Viewer)

[hipsterdufus]

I can't stomach Joe Scarborough, but I thought this was interesting.

Pundits Renounce The President
Among Conservative Voices, Discord

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, August 20, 2006; Page A04

For 10 minutes, the talk show host grilled his guests about whether "George Bush's mental weakness is damaging America's credibility at home and abroad." For 10 minutes, the caption across the bottom of the television screen read, "IS BUSH AN 'IDIOT'?"

But the host was no liberal media elitist. It was Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman turned MSNBC political pundit. And his answer to the captioned question was hardly "no." While other presidents have been called stupid, Scarborough said: "I think George Bush is in a league by himself. I don't think he has the intellectual depth as these other people."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR2006081900568.html

 

[SixStringHero]

I have 2 questions...

1. How does an idiot become President of the US?
Personally, I find the notion that a president can be an idiot insulting.

2. Does one's brevity of being articulate correlate to their intelligence level?
I say no.

Also, the tilted article claims PUNDITS (plural), yet I only find mention of Joe.

 

[SixStringHero]

Meant to say 'does one's brevity and lack of articulation correlate to their intelligence level?' :doh

 

[Indy]

2. Does one's brevity of being articulate correlate to their intelligence level?
I say no.

Answer: Yes.

This is fun! What's the next question?

 

[Iriemon]

I have 2 questions...

1. How does an idiot become President of the US?

a. Have a famous last name; b. have a famous daddy. c. Get in with the right group of folks.

Bush certainly didn't make it to the WH based upon his stunning intellect and keen analytical mind. He's a good politician though, knows how to fight dirty, that helps in modern politics.

There have been lots of idiots in politics.

Personally, I find the notion that a president can be an idiot insulting.

I kind of feel that way every time I hear him speak.

2. Does one's brevity of being articulate correlate to their intelligence level?
I say no.

Probably there is some correlation there; I agree not a direct one.

 

[SixStringHero]

Bush certainly didn't make it to the WH based upon his stunning intellect and keen analytical mind. He's a good politician though, knows how to fight dirty, that helps in modern politics.

Apparently he received higher grades then Kerry. Perhaps they are both idiots or maybe they didn't take their schooling too seriously?

 

[SixStringHero]

Answer: Yes.

This is fun! What's the next question?

LOL, is that your final answer?

Okay, what do you prefer Blueberry Pancakes or French Toast? :2razz:

 

[BWG]

LOL, is that your final answer?

Okay, what do you prefer Blueberry Pancakes or French Toast? :2razz:

Oh, by far, Banana Pancakes by Jack Johnson.

 

[Iriemon]

Apparently he received higher grades then Kerry. Perhaps they are both idiots or maybe they didn't take their schooling too seriously?

I agree Kerry was no intellectual giant either.

It would be nice to have a candidate we could respect because of thei intellegence.

 

[SixStringHero]

Oh, by far, Banana Pancakes by Jack Johnson.

That's actually a title of one of his songs? Good ol' Jack Johnson and his acoustic surf music.

 

[SixStringHero]

I agree Kerry was no intellectual giant either.

It would be nice to have a candidate we could respect because of thei intellegence.

He was a better public speaker than Bush. The problem is just because they can be smooth talkers doesn't mean they aren't full of crap. :2razz:

 

[Pen]

I saw that interview at Youtube and their use of the term "Idiot" was really misleading. It was agreed that he doesn't articulate himself very well, but that isn't a function of his intelligence. Greater concern was given for his apparent lack of intellectual curiosity.

 

[BWG]

That's actually a title of one of his songs? Good ol' Jack Johnson and his acoustic surf music.

'In Between Dreams' album.

 

[Navy Pride]

I can't stomach Joe Scarborough, but I thought this was interesting.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR2006081900568.html

I use to be a Scarborough fan becasue I thought he was a good Conservative but he has sold out to left leaning MSNBC trying for ratings...........I don't think his show will be on mych linger since it is being killed by Hannity and Coombes in the same time slot.........

As far as Bush and his intelligence he was smart enough to win 2 elections something that Carter could not do.........

 

[Pen]

^^^ or his own father.

 

[Navy Pride]

^^^ or his own father.

That is true thanks to the assistance of Ross Perot taking away votes from Bush 1........No Ross Perot......No Clinton.........

 

[SixStringHero]

'In Between Dreams' album.

I'll see if I can find a clip of the song or a video on youtube.

 

[Pen]

That is true thanks to the assistance of Ross Perot taking away votes from Bush 1........No Ross Perot......No Clinton.........

Perot ran as an independent and dropped out of the race before the election. How did that cost Bush the election, or give Clinton an opening?

 

[Navy Pride]

Perot ran as an independent and dropped out of the race before the election. How did that cost Bush the election, or give Clinton an opening?

Pen come on, Perot never dropped out of the race and got millions of votes and 19% of the vote.....The most by any independent in history..................Mostly Conservatives or Republicans that were mad at Bush 1..........

 

[TurtleDude]

Pen come on, Perot never dropped out of the race and got millions of votes and 19% of the vote.....The most by any independent in history..................Mostly Conservatives or Republicans that were mad at Bush 1..........

don't forget scumbag Walsh waiting til the thursday before the election to drop his indictment bomb

 

[jujuman13]

quote: 1. How does an idiot become President of the US?
Personally, I find the notion that a president can be an idiot insulting.

An idiot becomes President due to his being amenable to manipulation.

Certainly the Industrial defense war machine placed this particular idiot in the top seat, Bush is silly to even think he is the one who manipulates others.
I believe that Cheney was placed in position of VP just to keep Georgie boy's utterances in line.

I find the notion that an idiot can become President of the US to be really quite amusing, it certainly reveals the eternal stupidity of the American Electorate.

Note I say stupidity, I would have said LUNACY had they actually elected Kerry.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

As far as Bush and his intelligence he was smart enough to win 2 elections something that Carter could not do.........

Rove won those elections. And what are you saying? That Bush is smarter than any 1 term president? Does that apply to Clinton too?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Pen come on, Perot never dropped out of the race and got millions of votes and 19% of the vote.....The most by any independent in history..................Mostly Conservatives or Republicans that were mad at Bush 1..........

You are partially correct, Navy Pride. Perot never did drop out of the race and did receive a large percentage of the vote for a third party candidate. However, Theodore Roosevelt, running on the, Progressive party (a third party), received 27% of the vote in 1912.

 

[aps]

I do not think that Bush is an idiot. We're all smart about some things. When Bush discusses a subject he has a full understanding of, he sounds smart. However, for the most part, I think the issues he faces as president go over his head, which is why he sounds like such a dummy at every single press conference. I am embarrassed listening to him. He has got to be one of the more inarticulate presidents we have had, and it's no wonder people ask if he is intelligent or not. Look at our other presidents--they exuded intelligence in the way they spoke (Nixon, Carter, Bush, Clinton, etc.). Not this president.

So what if he got better grades than Kerry? Grades do not necessarily correlate with someone's intelligence. Same with SAT scores. If you want to address Bush's intelligence, I would recommend leaving Kerry out of it--or is that the only way some of you can respond to an attack on Bush's grades? *yawn*

 

[Gardener]

I find it just short of unfathonable that people could listen to George Dubya Bush and come away with the impression that there is a sparkling intellect at work. Partisanship overrides common sense, it seems.

I suppose the reverse side of this coin would be if liberals/democrats/leftists tried to claim that Nixon WASN'T intelligent. This just reveals one's political blinders through the inability to separate the notion of agreement with the notion of intelligence. This is just a form of self-flattery as far as I'm concerned, for what people are really saying is "I agree with them, so we must both be smart".

Heck, we have had excellent examples of this right here on this board recently when one obviously very intelligent poster was singled out as being less intelligent than the average American. "You don't agree with me, therefore you must not be intelligent". "You do agree with me, therefore you are".

There are stupid leftists and stupid rightists, intelligent leftists and intelligent rightests, and quite a few VERY intelligent moderates, independants and centrists.

:doh oops, was I just guilty of exactly that which I was pointing out?........