Proud Boys and Antifa clash outside of a Koreatown spa

[Ren]

Most BLM protests only became violent because of the police....

I doubt it. The police have been ordered to stand down in most cases, if not all.

 

[Hamish Howl]

I doubt it. The police have been ordered to stand down in most cases, if not all.

You make Baby Jesus cry when you lie like that.

 

[PeteEU]

I doubt it. The police have been ordered to stand down in most cases, if not all.

That is simply not true. Case after case of video evidence of police starting violence against peaceful protests and then going nuts. Pushing old men to the ground to vandalism to worse.

 

[Aristaeus]

What makes it lewd?

Well that would be based on intent, which no one on this site knows. Was this person just getting changed or were they using that as cover to expose themselves?

But the idea that it's somehow impossible for a male person to expose themselves in a woman's changing room is bizarre.

 

[Aristaeus]

It is not wrong according to the medical community. The correct way to treat gender dysphoria in many cases is to allow these people to live their lives in a gender role they feel most comfortable in.

And cis women who are uncomfortable around trans women in the locker room are as absolutely irrelevant as straight women who are uncomfortable around lesbians in the locker room.

What about young girls starting puberty and who are self-conscious about their body? Are they transphobic for not wanting to get undressed in front of strange males?

What about rape and sexual assault survivors? Are they transphobic?

What about orthodox Jewish and Muslim women?

 

[jonny5]

Nonsense

Fascism and nazism are extreme right.

Anyone who says otherwise is either painfully ignorant or lying.

Nuh uh!

 

[lwf]

Well that would be based on intent, which no one on this site knows. Was this person just getting changed or were they using that as cover to expose themselves?

But the idea that it's somehow impossible for a male person to expose themselves in a woman's changing room is bizarre.

It is not impossible. Neither is it impossible for a female person to expose themselves for sexual gratification to a child in a women's changing room. In all cases, this type of exposure for sexual gratification is and should be illegal. But getting changed should not be.

 

[lwf]

What about young girls starting puberty and who are self-conscious about their body? Are they transphobic for not wanting to get undressed in front of strange males?

What about rape and sexual assault survivors? Are they transphobic?

What about orthodox Jewish and Muslim women?

No. They are welcome to get changed in private. They are absolutely NOT allowed, and should never be allowed, to force innocent people to leave a public locker room because they happen to be uncomfortable. It is the pubescent girl's, the sexual assault survivor's, and Jewish and Muslim women's, responsibility to get dressed and undressed in private as they see fit. It is no one else's responsibility to protect them from innocent people who are minding their own business whom they happen to feel uncomfortable around. If a rape survivor is uncomfortable with having a tattooed man on a bus that she is riding, she can leave the bus. She can't have him removed for her own sense of comfort.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

This is basic stuff, amazing how ignorant so many are of basic facts.

No, fascism cannot be left, it is a right wing political ideology.

Think for christs sake....

Oh, you sweet summer child

Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

National syndicalism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Widerstand (magazine) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

National Bolshevik Party - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nazbols are fiscally far-left while being socially far-right, as an example. And don't you know, Nazism didn't end with the Nazi Party...

Nazis also campaigned with centrists and skewed centre before they got in power. Because they are first and foremost authoritarians, like Stalinists. The ultimate insult to a Nazi.

 

[Aristaeus]

No. They are welcome to get changed in private. They are absolutely NOT allowed, and should never be allowed, to force innocent people to leave a public locker room because they happen to be uncomfortable. It is the pubescent girl's, the sexual assault survivor's, and Jewish and Muslim women's, responsibility to get dressed and undressed in private as they see fit. It is no one else's responsibility to protect them from innocent people who are minding their own business whom they happen to feel uncomfortable around. If a rape survivor is uncomfortable with having a tattooed man on a bus that she is riding, she can leave the bus. She can't have him removed for her own sense of comfort.

Big difference between a man on a bus and a man in a woman's changing room, but I'm sure you know that.

 

[Aristaeus]

No. They are welcome to get changed in private. They are absolutely NOT allowed, and should never be allowed, to force innocent people to leave a public locker room because they happen to be uncomfortable. It is the pubescent girl's, the sexual assault survivor's, and Jewish and Muslim women's, responsibility to get dressed and undressed in private as they see fit. It is no one else's responsibility to protect them from innocent people who are minding their own business whom they happen to feel uncomfortable around. If a rape survivor is uncomfortable with having a tattooed man on a bus that she is riding, she can leave the bus. She can't have him removed for her own sense of comfort.

So males have priority over females in women's changing rooms?

 

[Taylor]

And cis women who are uncomfortable around trans women in the locker room are as absolutely irrelevant as straight women who are uncomfortable around lesbians in the locker room.

No more irrelevant than trans people who are uncomfortable around same sex people in the locker room. It's really not that difficult - if you have a penis, use the locker room for people with penises.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Oh, you sweet summer child

Fascism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

National syndicalism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Widerstand (magazine) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

National Bolshevik Party - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nazbols are fiscally far-left while being socially far-right, as an example. And don't you know, Nazism didn't end with the Nazi Party...

Nazis also campaigned with centrists and skewed centre before they got in power. Because they are first and foremost authoritarians, like Stalinists. The ultimate insult to a Nazi.

Lol.

You prove my point.

You just don't understand that you did.


From your links

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2]"

Nazis are a branch of fascism.

People that say they are left wing fascist are just plain ignorant of what the words mean.

Being a left wing fascist is like being a right wing communist......a contradiction in terms.

Plus. Modern day nazis know full well which side they are on. Why do you think Nazis were behind a "Unite the RIGHT" rally not a unite the left or center rally?

 

[NolanVoyd]

No more irrelevant than trans people who are uncomfortable around same sex people in the locker room. It's really not that difficult - if you have a penis, use the locker room for people with penises.

Why?

 

[Ren]

You make Baby Jesus cry when you lie like that.

You mean law enforcement officers are hunting innocent people down and murdering them in cold blood?

Show me.

 

[Ren]

That is simply not true. Case after case of video evidence of police starting violence against peaceful protests and then going nuts. Pushing old men to the ground to vandalism to worse.

Case after case? You make it sound like innocent Americans are suffering from an epidemic created by law enforcement.

 

[cabse5]

Congratulations. You have shamed yourself forever.

I can't help it if you're misinformed on what constitutes being a lefty or righty in politics.

Many sites make money asking numerous questions then determining and plotting someone's tendency for 'leftiness' or 'rightiness' on one axis then plotting someone's tendency for authoritarianism or libertarianism on the other axis.

Do you even know what authoritarianism means?...What libertarianism means? Do you realize that most authoritarians are fascist? Do you realize that all progressives and some GOPs like Liz Cheney, G.W. Bush and Mueller, for examples, are authoritarian?

 

[cabse5]

Lol.

Nazism is not center right it is extreme right.

This is basic stuff, amazing how ignorant so many are of basic facts.

No, fascism cannot be left, it is a right wing political ideology.

Think for christs sake....

If fascism can't be a left-winged ideology, why was the father of fascism, Mussolini, a lefty? Hum?

 

[cabse5]

Hitler was a nazi....."Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed."


So nazism is fascist and fascism is......

fascism

An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

fascism

"fascism" published on by null.

www.oxfordreference.com

Yeah. You can quote the incorrect definition for fascism from Wiki all you want but you'll still be wrong.

 

[cabse5]

Right and left is a meaningless term. Its original meaning was literally the left or right side of a room. Someone then made a chart and used the terms. They could have used up and down for all it matters. Liberals (left) can be just as fascist as nazis (a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control). Fascism itself has varying meanings. WHat people call themselves doesnt mean they understand the meaning any better than you. Use your brain.

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Traditionally, a lefty in politics means someone who prefers socialism to distribute goods and services and a righty in politcs means someone who prefers capitalism to distribute goods and services.

Of course, progressives (and dictionaries and Wiki, for examples), have hijacked and redefined the definition for lefty and righty using a progressive's perspective.

 

[NolanVoyd]

If fascism can't be a left-winged ideology, why was the father of fascism, Mussolini, a lefty? Hum?

He was a lefty in his youth, then he moved to the far right and put fascism into action.

Duh.

The history is not a secret.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yeah. You can quote the incorrect definition for fascism from Wiki all you want but you'll still be wrong.

Fascism

An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

fascism

"fascism" published on by null.

www.oxfordreference.com

 

[iguanaman]

Most BLM protests only became violent because of the police....

And white supremacists. The FBI named them as the most dangerous group in the country.

 

[bomberfox]

Topic shortened for brevity

LAPD confirms 40 arrested during violent transgender rights protest

Los Angeles police arrested 40 people during a transgender rights protest on Saturday and fired non-lethal projectiles to disperse the unruly mob that turned violent.

www.dailymail.co.uk

More activity from Antifa last weekend over this spa incident which now seems like a Hoax. To the extent that Proud Boys are engaged in violence, they should be treated the same as Antifa, and the FBI should be investigating and preventing terrorist activity. Antifa, and then BLM started all this with their violent protests, and now their opponents are using it to respond. Everyone needs to get the hammer dropped on them, and our national politicians need to be our daily condemning political violence, and showing that action is being taken to punish those engaged or planning. This partisan political war has to end. People have to stop all the hostility. Set an example.

But blame everything on antifa and BLM lol…..

 

[bomberfox]

Obviously, that cop was fearing for his life from all the chaos caused by a lady asking him not to shoot.

They do love making less than lethal methods as lethal as they can.