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Proud Boys and Antifa clash outside of a Koreatown spa

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So all of our WWII soldiers were fascists.
No...Neither is The Constitution fascist since a majority of Americans approve The Constitution...Neither is democracy fascist since an approval by the majority is the literal definition for democracy.

So you know, fascism is when someone forces action that isn't approved by the majority.
 

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No...Neither is The Constitution fascist since a majority of Americans approve The Constitution...Neither is democracy fascist since an approval by the majority is the literal definition for democracy.

So you know, fascism is when someone forces action that isn't approved by the majority.

They went in and violently expunged an ideology. That's the definition you gave.
 

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So do something about it.
It's up to morons in local, state and federal gov'ts to enforce laws against this type of unrest.
 

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It's up to morons in local, state and federal gov'ts to enforce laws against this type of unrest.

We here in local government don't really care what happens to boogs.

So we don't have many boogs, and the ones we do have restrict themselves to talking like John Wayne on Parler.
 

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American and other allied soldiers.
Nazis were devils according to most Americans. The Japanese were devils according to most Americans.

You don't get this do you?
 

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We here in local government don't really care what happens to boogs.

So we don't have many boogs, and the ones we do have restrict themselves to talking like John Wayne on Parler.
Speak English. Who or what is a boog?
 

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Nazis were devils according to most Americans. The Japanese were devils according to most Americans.

You don't get this do you?

And so? They used force to change the ideology of a majority of 3 populations.

By your (incorrect) standard, that makes them fascists.
 

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We can no longer allow fascists (ANTIFA) to fight fascists (neo-Nazis) because of the unrest and chaos it creates.
You don't seem to understand the terms.

Lots of groups throughout history have used violence to oppose the people they disagree with. The vast majority of them are not fascist.

Fascism is an ideology not a tactic. Yes fascists are prone to using violence against their opponents, but so are many of the other political movements throughout history.

Using violence in opposition to fascism (antifa) does not make you a fascist.

It amazes me that you think punching a fascist or a nazi makes you a fascist or a nazi..........doesn't the illogical nature of that make your head explode?
 

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You don't seem to understand the terms.

Lots of groups throughout history have used violence to oppose the people they disagree with. The vast majority of them are not fascist.

Fascism is an ideology not a tactic. Yes fascists are prone to using violence against their opponents, but so are many of the other political movements throughout history.

Using violence in opposition to fascism (antifa) does not make you a fascist.

It amazes me that you think punching a fascist or a nazi makes you a fascist or a nazi..........doesn't the illogical nature of that make your head explode?
ANTIFA is fascist and Proud Boys are fascist.

I assume you're using the debunked perspective of the progressive theory that all fascists are righty, politically.

Before you debate who's fascist or not fascist, you need to begin to understand the meaning of fascism. Many people (and dictionaries) do not understand the meaning of fascism.
For example, Mussolini the father of fascism, was a lefty but many are using the perspective of the progressive when they say Mussolini was a righty to justify the nonsense that all fascists must be righties.:rolleyes:

No, fascism isn't an ideology...It is a tactic. A lefty like Mussolini was a fascist. A righty like the late George Wallace, the presidential hopeful from Alabama, was a fascist. A centrist like Hitler was a fascist...The teachers teaching Critical Race Theory are fascist.
 
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ANTIFA is fascist and Proud Boys are fascist.


No, fascism isn't an ideology...It is a tactic.

1. Wrong. Nothing but sheer whataboutism.

2. Wrong. You're just making things up now.
 

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ANTIFA is fascist and Proud Boys are fascist.

I assume you're using the debunked perspective of the progressive theory that all fascists are righty, politically.

Before you debate who's fascist or not fascist, you need to begin to understand the meaning of fascism. Many people (and dictionaries) do not understand the meaning of fascism.
For example, Mussolini the father of fascism, was a lefty but many are using the perspective of the progressive when they say Mussolini was a righty to justify the nonsense that all fascists must be righties.:rolleyes:

No, fascism isn't an ideology...It is a tactic. A lefty like Mussolini was a fascist. A righty like the late George Wallace, the presidential hopeful from Alabama, was a fascist. A centrist like Hitler was a fascist...The teachers teaching Critical Race Theory are fascist.
Lol. N0. It is an ideology not a tactic.

No, mussolini was not a lefty.

No, Hitler was not a centrist.

I proved you wrong on that over and over.

I can present you with facts but i can't make you think.

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1. Wrong. Nothing but sheer whataboutism.

2. Wrong. You're just making things up now.
Nothing from someone's perspective is fact...it is perspective. For example, should Wimbledon be defined as being close?? To Londoners, the answer would be yes but to folks in the states, there's, approximately, 6 hours of difference.

A relative evaluation should never be considered as fact...That all fascists are righties is a relative determination made by progressives and is not factual (except to progressives).:rolleyes:
 

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Lol. N0. It is an ideology not a tactic.

No, mussolini was not a lefty.

No, Hitler was not a centrist.

I proved you wrong on that over and over.

I can present you with facts but i can't make you think.

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Hitler was a centrist. Hitler had just about as many pro-socialist polices to distribute goods and services in Nazi Germany as pro-capitalst politics to distribute goods and services in Nazi Germany.

BTW, what is your bogus criterion to determine what's lefty and righty?
 

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Hitler was a centrist. Hitler had just about as many pro-socialist polices to distribute goods and services in Nazi Germany as pro-capitalst politics to distribute goods and services in Nazi Germany.

BTW, what is your bogus criterion to determine what's lefty and righty?
Hitler was a nazi....."Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed."


So nazism is fascist and fascism is......

fascism

An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
 

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Hitler was a centrist. Hitler had just about as many pro-socialist polices to distribute goods and services in Nazi Germany as pro-capitalst politics to distribute goods and services in Nazi Germany.

BTW, what is your bogus criterion to determine what's lefty and righty?
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The nazis know you are wrong. They know they are right wing. That is why a nazi organized and got permits for the "Unite the RIGHT" rally in Charlottesville. Not a unite the LEFT or the CENTER rally.

Seriously guy, use your brain.
 

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The nazis know you are wrong. They know they are right wing. That is why a nazi organized and got permits for the "Unite the RIGHT" rally in Charlottesville. Not a unite the LEFT or the CENTER rally.

Seriously guy, use your brain.

Right and left is a meaningless term. Its original meaning was literally the left or right side of a room. Someone then made a chart and used the terms. They could have used up and down for all it matters. Liberals (left) can be just as fascist as nazis (a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control). Fascism itself has varying meanings. WHat people call themselves doesnt mean they understand the meaning any better than you. Use your brain.

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Right and left is a meaningless term. Its original meaning was literally the left or right side of a room. Someone then made a chart and used the terms. They could have used up and down for all it matters. Liberals (left) can be just as fascist as nazis (a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control). Fascism itself has varying meanings. WHat people call themselves doesnt mean they understand the meaning any better than you. Use your brain.

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Nonsense

Fascism and nazism are extreme right.

Anyone who says otherwise is either painfully ignorant or lying.
 

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Nonsense

Fascism and nazism are extreme right.

Anyone who says otherwise is either painfully ignorant or lying.
Nazism is centre-right but they're both more authoritarian than anything else, which is what matters. Furthermore, no, fascism can be left-wing too:
Right and left is a meaningless term. Its original meaning was literally the left or right side of a room. Someone then made a chart and used the terms. They could have used up and down for all it matters. Liberals (left) can be just as fascist as nazis

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Liberals and leftists are not synonyms...
 

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Nazism is centre-right but they're both more authoritarian than anything else, which is what matters. Furthermore, no, fascism can be left-wing too:

Lol.

Nazism is not center right it is extreme right.

This is basic stuff, amazing how ignorant so many are of basic facts.

No, fascism cannot be left, it is a right wing political ideology.

Think for christs sake....
 
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