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Protesting idiots blocking a freeway again in L.A. Of course no one was arrested. (1 Viewer)

highways are not for pedestrians - a vehicle hitting someone on the highway really isn't the drivers fault

but yes, police should have stopped this and ICE should have been there checking citizenship

Erm, just no.

You still have to have the standard level of attention to the road even on a highway.
 
The protestors are mostly Soros tik tock paid protesters. Most are kids, who need a few extra bucks. Some are doing it for free, waving the Mexican flags while burning this country's flag because they think it will get them "likes" on social media or because they're basically idiots.
Yeah, could all those or a combination of those.
 
Need to take note that these people are protesting against existing immigration laws being enforced.
Further, that they are waiving flags of other nations when it appears that they want to stay in the US?
Strikes me as confused.

Talking point check:
Either the illegal immigrants are scared, or they are raising up in protest. Can't really be both.
No no one broke existing immigration laws prior to Trump. They are protesting ICE rounding up people
 
Yes it is. They didn't attack anyone, or damage proberty, or break windows. That was Jan. 6th.

Blocking a major highway is a great way to protest. The object of a protest is to be seen protesting. If people are inconvenienced, so much the better.

Yeah, god forbid that these people would actually be on the right side of the issue, so that people would just listen to what they have to SAY, because it's a good idea.
 
Yeah, god forbid that these people would actually be on the right side of the issue, so that people would just listen to what they have to SAY, because it's a good idea.
Well, Black people in the south were on the right side of the issue. No one listened to anything they had to say. They had to ride in the back of the bus until Rosa Parks sat down and inconvenienced everybody. They weren't allowed to eat at lunch counters but they sat in and inconvenienced people until they were arrested. They knew they'd be arrested, it was part of the protest. Now they can sit at the lunch counters.

Some how in this country we've lost the philosophy behind protests. Protests should be peaceful. But protests must be seen. Inconveniencing people is one thing. That's part of protesting. What we can't have is the violence we saw on Jan. 6th.
 
Well, Black people in the south were on the right side of the issue. No one listened to anything they had to say. They had to ride in the back of the bus until Rosa Parks sat down and inconvenienced everybody. They weren't allowed to eat at lunch counters but they sat in and inconvenienced people until they were arrested. They knew they'd be arrested, it was part of the protest. Now they can sit at the lunch counters.

Some how in this country we've lost the philosophy behind protests. Protests should be peaceful. But protests must be seen. Inconveniencing people is one thing. That's part of protesting. What we can't have is the violence we saw on Jan. 6th.

Rosa Parks didn't inconvenience anybody.
 
Blocking traffic on a highway is not protest. Its a crime.

Period
 
No no one broke existing immigration laws prior to Trump.
I think this is incorrect.
Prior to Trump, existing immigration laws were broken, but enforcement was lax.
Even with the previous administration's lax immigration enforcement, there were deportations.
Are you saying these deported people didn't brake existing immigration laws?

They are protesting ICE rounding up people
They are protesting ICE strictly enforcing existing immigration laws, as opposed to the previous administration's lax enforcement.
 
All this whataboutism is not a compelling argument. Do you agree with people blocking major highways while protesting? Yes or no?
No. I do not agree with people blocking the roads.

Do you agree with people trashing the Capital and injuring LEO's?
 
Do you agree with people trashing the Capital and injuring LEO's?
I don't agree with the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor

But we have moved on.
 
I think this is incorrect.
Prior to Trump, existing immigration laws were broken, but enforcement was lax.
Even with the previous administration's lax immigration enforcement, there were deportations.
Are you saying these deported people didn't brake existing immigration laws?


They are protesting ICE strictly enforcing existing immigration laws, as opposed to the previous administration's lax enforcement.
Spin if you must
 
Spin if you must
There's no 'spin' involved on point raised below:

No no one broke existing immigration laws prior to Trump. They are protesting ICE rounding up people
I think this is incorrect.
Prior to Trump, existing immigration laws were broken, but enforcement was lax.
Even with the previous administration's lax immigration enforcement, there were deportations.
Are you saying these deported people didn't brake existing immigration laws?
. . .
 
This post perfectly exemplifies the stupidity of MAGA voters.

Who's a MAGA voter?

This post perfectly illustrates the stupidity, laziness, and irony of DTS sufferers.
 
Need to take note that these people are protesting against existing immigration laws being enforced.
Further, that they are waiving flags of other nations when it appears that they want to stay in the US?
Strikes me as confused.

Talking point check:
Either the illegal immigrants are scared, or they are raising up in protest. Can't really be both.
Last point, laughable.
 
Blocking traffic on a highway is not protest. Its a crime.

Period
Protestors frequently commit crimes in order to get arrested. Getting arrested is part of the protest. As long as the crimes are non-violent, they are well within the parameters of a protest.

I marvel at the lack of understanding on this subject:


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The same people who want absolutely no restrictions on the 2nd Amendment have no problem restricting the hell out of the 1st Amendment. Hypocrisy, thou art MAGA.

Who's a MAGA voter?

This post perfectly illustrates the stupidity, laziness, and irony of DTS sufferers.
Yes, Trump Devotion Syndrome voters are stupid, lazy. You nailed it.
 
Protestors frequently commit crimes in order to get arrested. Getting arrested is part of the protest. As long as the crimes are non-violent, they are well within the parameters of a protest.

I marvel at the lack of understanding on this subject:


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The same people who want absolutely no restrictions on the 2nd Amendment have no problem restricting the hell out of the 1st Amendment. Hypocrisy, thou art MAGA.

Blocking traffic and effectively imprisoning thousands of people in their cars on the highway so they can't pick up their children from school or get them to their doctor's appointments, is not "non-violent" or "peaceable."

Rosa Parks protested a law by breaking the law she was protesting. Nobody was inconvenienced by her. She didn't stand in the middle of the street with a sign, kidnap someone's child, or threaten to blow up a bridge to get attention.

Yes, Trump Devotion Syndrome voters are stupid, lazy. You nailed it.

Oh look, another idiotic insult. What a surprise!
 
I think this is incorrect.
Prior to Trump, existing immigration laws were broken, but enforcement was lax.
Even with the previous administration's lax immigration enforcement, there were deportations.
Are you saying these deported people didn't brake existing immigration laws?


They are protesting ICE strictly enforcing existing immigration laws, as opposed to the previous administration's lax enforcement.

The problem is that you don’t want to follow the laws.

For example. The laws say that even Illegals should get a hearing in court. Those hearings are suspended by Trump’s orders. So someone accused of a crime is deprived of due process. But hey, it’s just them so who cares right? It isn’t like we are talking about White People denied their rights.

Deport the criminals the RW MAGA Fanboys scream. Ok. But the law says that when they are convicted of a crime they have to serve their sentence before any immigration action can be dealt with. In other words if an illegal is caught dealing drugs, the criminal takes precedence over the immigration.

But hey, we don’t like that law so we want to ignore it.

MAGA Fanboys treat the laws like a buffet. Ignoring the dishes they don’t like. Going so far as to deny the dishes even exist.

So no. You don’t want to follow the laws. You want to enforce some of the laws.
 
The problem is that you don’t want to follow the laws.

For example. The laws say that even Illegals should get a hearing in court.

Those hearings are suspended by Trump’s orders.
Citation from a reliable source please, that immigration hearings have been suspended.

So someone accused of a crime is deprived of due process. But hey, it’s just them so who cares right? It isn’t like we are talking about White People denied their rights.
ICE is targeting violent criminal illegal aliens who have already been convicted or have an ICE detainer as a matter of public safety as well as national security.
Your problem with this is???
Do you want violent criminal illegal aliens in your neighborhood? Around your kids and family?

Deport the criminals the RW MAGA Fanboys scream. Ok.

But the law says that when they are convicted of a crime they have to serve their sentence before any immigration action can be dealt with.
If this is what the law says, I'm willing to read a citation which supports this assertion.

In other words if an illegal is caught dealing drugs, the criminal takes precedence over the immigration.

But hey, we don’t like that law so we want to ignore it.

MAGA Fanboys treat the laws like a buffet. Ignoring the dishes they don’t like. Going so far as to deny the dishes even exist.

So no. You don’t want to follow the laws. You want to enforce some of the laws.
 
Citation from a reliable source please, that immigration hearings have been suspended.


ICE is targeting violent criminal illegal aliens who have already been convicted or have an ICE detainer as a matter of public safety as well as national security.
Your problem with this is???
Do you want violent criminal illegal aliens in your neighborhood? Around your kids and family?




If this is what the law says, I'm willing to read a citation which supports this assertion.

First. Targeting violent criminals? Is that why they are raiding workplaces? The violent criminals have a day job? I know critical thought is hard for some people, but really man. Even a Fanboy should be able to see that is nonsense.

As for a reputable source. How about the Department of Homeland Security?


If that isn’t reputable enough I suppose I can reinstall Twitter and find a post by Trump crowing about it.
 
First. Targeting violent criminals? Is that why they are raiding workplaces? The violent criminals have a day job? I know critical thought is hard for some people, but really man. Even a Fanboy should be able to see that is nonsense.
Violent criminals can be anywhere, including workplaces.

As for a reputable source. How about the Department of Homeland Security?


Having read the reference provided, the key sentences in it are:

This Notice enables the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to exercise the full scope of its statutory authority to place in expedited removal, with limited exceptions, aliens2 determined to be inadmissible under sections 212(a)(6)(C) or (a)(7) of the INA who have not been admitted or paroled into the United States and who have not affirmatively shown, to the satisfaction of an immigration officer, that they have been physically present in the United States continuously for the two-year period immediately preceding the date of the determination of inadmissibility.​
. . .​
the designation in this Notice restores the scope of expedited removal to the fullest extent authorized by Congress, as was previously established in the July 23, 2019 Notice, Designating Aliens for Expedited Removal.​

It doesn't appear to support you assertion:
The problem is that you don’t want to follow the laws.

For example. The laws say that even Illegals should get a hearing in court. Those hearings are suspended by Trump’s orders. So someone accused of a crime is deprived of due process. But hey, it’s just them so who cares right? It isn’t like we are talking about White People denied their rights.
. . .
particularly "restores the scope of expedited removal to the fullest extent authorized by Congress".
It particularly doesn't support your claim that "Those hearings are suspended by Trump’s orders.".

Seems you are having an issue with "restores the scope of expedited removal to the fullest extent authorized by Congress".
As such, it appears to be a legislative issue and not an executive branch issue.
Congress granted powers to CBP & ICE, which were thwarted by the previous administration, those powers have now been restored to law which congress passed and was signed into law.

If that isn’t reputable enough I suppose I can reinstall Twitter and find a post by Trump crowing about it.
The source is fine. Your interpretation of the issued directive appears to be the problem here.
 
Yes it is. They didn't attack anyone, or damage proberty, or break windows. That was Jan. 6th.

Blocking a major highway is a great way to protest. The object of a protest is to be seen protesting. If people are inconvenienced, so much the better.

Until First Responders can't get through, and then someone dies as a result.
 

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