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Protesters take to streets after Trump rally in California

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Lovebug said:
Disgusting display of immaturity and disregard for free speech. Free speech does not equal acts of violence. Stupid cowards.
I do so not like Trump, but idiots like this make me want to vote for him to spite these people.
Protesters take to streets after Trump rally in California - CNNPolitics.com
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Every time such "protests" occur they only serve to demonstrate who the true enemies of freedom are.

"Liberation not deportation" was one of the signs according to the article. How about trying to adhere to the ideals of the country you are trying to immigrate to and allow rather than abuse freedom of expression? Follow the laws of the country you are trying to immigrate to and do so legally? How about carrying AMERICAN flags to show you are vested in THIS country and not simply trying to transplant your culture to our nation?

Why is it that the people who claim Trump's followers are violent and/or racists, gleefully pointing out the one or two incident's of individual stupidity like the sucker punch at one rally, ignore or support these examples of mass violence as "righteous protests."

Hypocritical much? :coffeepap:
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Why is it that the people who claim Trump's followers are violent and/or racists, gleefully pointing out the one or two incident's of individual stupidity like the sucker punch at one rally, ignore or support these examples of mass violence as "righteous protests."
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Who called violent mass protests "righteous protests?"

Strawman much? :coffeepap:
 
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MrT said:
Who called violent mass protests "righteous protests?"

Strawman much? :coffeepap:
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It's couched in the belief that if one accuses another of racism, bigotry and hatred, one is doing so out of a sense of righteousness. That was prominently on display by the protestors, and calling that protesting out of a sense of righteousness is not a strawman at all. Exactly how many protests do you think arise out of something other than a sense of righteousness, no matter how distorted it might be?
 
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MrT said:
Who called violent mass protests "righteous protests?"

Strawman much? :coffeepap:
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humbolt said:
It's couched in the belief that if one accuses another of racism, bigotry and hatred, one is doing so out of a sense of righteousness. That was prominently on display by the protestors, and calling that protesting out of a sense of righteousness is not a strawman at all. Exactly how many protests do you think arise out of something other than a sense of righteousness, no matter how distorted it might be?
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Re: Donald Trump CA protest

humbolt said:
It's couched in the belief that if one accuses another of racism, bigotry and hatred, one is doing so out of a sense of righteousness. That was prominently on display by the protestors, and calling that protesting out of a sense of righteousness is not a strawman at all. Exactly how many protests do you think arise out of something other than a sense of righteousness, no matter how distorted it might be?
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Would that be similar to the sense of righteousness inherent to individuals that attack and criticize the protesters because they are allegedly infringing on free speech?
 
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Lovebug said:
Why is it that I am going to work every day when I could be traveling the country?
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The opportunities are out there, all you have to do is sign up and show an eagerness to display how you feel ... experience & sincerity are optional ... glad I could help.
 
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MrT said:
Would that be similar to the sense of righteousness inherent to individuals that attack and criticize the protesters because they are allegedly infringing on free speech?
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Why yes, yes it would. Even ISIS does their crap out of a sense of righteousness. If all reason, objectivity and morality are thrown out the window, anything can be described as righteous.
 
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MrT said:
Would that be similar to the sense of righteousness inherent to individuals that attack and criticize the protesters because they are allegedly infringing on free speech?
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Yeah, because criticizing people on the internet and taking to the streets in order to block traffic, fighting police officers, damaging property, and engaging in violent mob attacks on Trump supporters is essentially the same thing.

These "protesters" need to be put down like the rabid, useless, unemployed dogs that they are, and by "put down" I mean they need to be shot dead when they start rising up like this.

There is no place in civil society for scum like this.

And yes, if it were a group of conservatives rising up in the same way I would call for the same thing on them, but for some reason we NEVER see that so it's kind of a moot point.
 
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MrT said:
Would that be similar to the sense of righteousness inherent to individuals that attack and criticize the protesters because they are allegedly infringing on free speech?
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At least offer a quote so everyone knows whom you are referring to.
Yes, I strongly criticize these violent people, because causing mayhem and destruction of public property is no protest, nor is it exercising the right to free speech.
 
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Lovebug said:
Why is it that I am going to work every day when I could be traveling the country?
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I'd need way more than $80 to spend a day around those nimrods.
 
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jmotivator said:
I'd need way more than $80 to spend a day around those nimrods.
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For people who don't have a job, this is a lot of money. Some may even believe the message.
 
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jmotivator said:
I'd need way more than $80 to spend a day around those nimrods.
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Well, the women are stupid, gullible, and easy, and there's sure to be plenty of dope.

Might not be the worst way to a sick burn day.
 
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soot said:
These "protesters" need to be put down like the rabid, useless, unemployed dogs that they are, and by "put down" I mean they need to be shot dead when they start rising up like this.

There is no place in civil society for scum like me.
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Went ahead and fixed that one for you.
 
Lovebug said:
Disgusting display of immaturity and disregard for free speech. Free speech does not equal acts of violence. Stupid cowards.
I do so not like Trump, but idiots like this make me want to vote for him to spite these people.
Protesters take to streets after Trump rally in California - CNNPolitics.com
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Nothing will make me want to vote for the conman and fraud, but violent protests are not the way to go. It's like fighting terrorists - we can't descend to the level of our enemies and expect to win.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Nothing will make me want to vote for the conman and fraud, but violent protests are not the way to go. It's like fighting terrorists - we can't descend to the level of our enemies and expect to win.
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You're comparing apples to oranges.
 
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MrT said:
Went ahead and fixed that one for you.
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Went ahead and reported that for you.

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Lovebug said:
Disgusting display of immaturity and disregard for free speech. Free speech does not equal acts of violence. Stupid cowards.
I do so not like Trump, but idiots like this make me want to vote for him to spite these people.
Protesters take to streets after Trump rally in California - CNNPolitics.com
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Odd. Seems like this is a pretty common behavior among leftist activist groups, the litter, property destruction, violence, police engagements and arrests.
Haven't heard so much of that when other groups are protesting.
 
ludin said:
the real truth beyond the so called tolerance and open minded movement.
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I understand why they don't like the guy, and why so many feel the need to protest his platform. But this is not the way to go. If you have to, line up a walk of shame, from the front door of the venue until you run out of people, peacefully holding up signs, making attendees walk right by you on their way in.
What they do, and their insincerity, the immaturity, the farce of it all, it just shows their ignorance of the gravity of a potential Trump presidency. As a matter of fact, it makes a mockery of our 1 amendment.
 
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soot said:
Went ahead and reported that for you.
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Is it really a personal attack when you set yourself up for it so easily? I mean it's more akin to punching yourself in the face and me sitting on the sideline going, "Why are you punching yourself in the face?"
 
Dittohead not! said:
They're both fruit.

And descending to the level of your enemies, physical or political, is not the way to win.
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You're comparing combat to political dissent. Two different things.
 
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