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Prostitution

Should prostitution be illegal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 34 52.3%
  • No

    Votes: 24 36.9%
  • Only under certain circumstances [Please post]

    Votes: 7 10.8%

  • Total voters
    65
Jufarius87 said:
you have to admit though that prostitution spreads disease much faster than regulerly consenual sex because in (most) sexual situations you are intimate and know the person prostitution is haphazardly sleeping with anyone and you dont know their disease status not to mention the emotional and physcological damage done to people in that "profession"
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legalizing prostituion would signify that the govt would be giving it the ok making education about it kind of a moot point and hypocritical i would also like to point out that there is nothing that protects against disease (only pregnancy) so we wouldnt be protecting anyone by legalizing prostitution then educating people about it
1. I'm not sure that it does, but I'll stipulate so for the sake of argument. The only reason prostitution may spread disease any faster than other relationships is because prostitution is illegal and thus unregulated. If it were legalized and regulated, this would be relatively safe.

2. If you've ever been to the beach during spring break, you might re-think your assertion about the level of intimacy of most sexual relationships.

3. Legalizing prostitution would not be the government's way of saying "okay." Rather, it would be the government's way of recognizing that prostitution is an ingrained part of society, even if we don't like to talk about it, and taking steps to protect those citizens who choose to participate.
 
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Prostitution being illegal is just another example of the government needlessly interfering with our daily lives. We have a right to "libery to the fullest extent", which shouldn't prevent consulting adults from sex.
 
Even if the exchange of money goes along with that :p
 
heyjoeo said:
Even if the exchange of money goes along with that :p
Why does it matter? It's still just a person selling a service to another person.
I think those two people know if they agree to it more than the government does.
 
it still gives "the thumbs up" to haphazard sexual activity underminding american values and destroying any credibility that the govt has to stop teens from having sex
 
Jufarius87 said:
it still gives "the thumbs up" to haphazard sexual activity underminding american values and destroying any credibility that the govt has to stop teens from having sex
The most important American value is freedom.

When you create rediculous laws that interfere with two people's consenting activities, you are severely limiting their freedom.
 
ahhh yes but even the founding fathers acknowledged that freedom was limited to that which wouldnt hurt anyone ........ ya gotta admit prostitutes dont tend to be the most healthy people emotionally and mentally
 
Jufarius87 said:
ahhh yes but even the founding fathers acknowledged that freedom was limited to that which wouldnt hurt anyone ........ ya gotta admit prostitutes dont tend to be the most healthy people emotionally and mentally
You are partially correct. Our rights (life, liberty, property) were supposed to be boundless as long as they didn't limit someone else's rights by FORCE.

However, when two people consent to a service or product for sale, rights are not the issue as they may be part of the product or service. If both people agree to the action, government is not supposed to interfere.
 
Blue Hobgoblin said:
Legalize it, then put it under government supervision with STD screening for prostitutes and clients.
Translated properly:

"Give them back their freedom, but then take it away once again for no reason."
 
Prostitution happens in every nation, in every state and in every town. By not regulating it we've created a situation where it's much less safe than it could be. Legalize it, regulate it and tax the living crap out of it. It would end up being safer for the prostitutes and the customers. Plus we'd have the added benefit of tax dollars.


BTW- I miss read the poll and voted incorrectly.
 
More important than taxing it, have STD screening. And also, legalizing it and putting it under government scrutiny might help sever its ties to other criminal elements like the drug trade and gangs.
 
there is no form of protection that prevents std's from spreading and how often would you make std checks i beleive prostitution though consenual takes away from the right to "life" in the life liberty and pursuit of hapiness.....
 
Jufarius87 said:
there is no form of protection that prevents std's from spreading and how often would you make std checks i beleive prostitution though consenual takes away from the right to "life" in the life liberty and pursuit of hapiness.....

And when you sell someone something of yours you're giving away property!

Oh no! Stop all transactions between people!




Our rights mean we get to have that and no one is allowed to take it from us unwillingly. Our own choice to trade certain aspects for others is part of our rights.





PS: Why do any of you think you have a higher claim on someone's life by telling them what they can and cannot do? YOU are the ones trying to take away someone's liberty.
 
first of all my original arguement was not answered doesnt prostitution take away from the life in life liberty and pursuit of hapiness?

the constitution gives us the rights of speech assembly petition religion and press

which of these could prostitution fall under? especially since prostitution has damaging emotion and physical effects on american citizens..........
 
Prostitution is an industry of business.

People will provide a service to others in exchange for money.

This is the basis behind trading.



When government prohibits us from doing such business, we are losing freedom.

We lose our freedom to choose what's best for us. We lose our freedom to consentual exchanges of goods and services between people.

The constitution grants us all "liberties to the fullest extent".
That includes the right to sell a service.
 
Wow! First the Supreme Court creates a new industry filled with great economic opportunities that have made millionaires out of many second rate doctors whose skill is limited to delivering dead babies.

Now you want to create another new industry which will make millions for sleaze ball operators of cat houses. But look on the bright side. Think of all those high school drop outs who can become professionals by, as the lyric goes, 'doin whut cums nat'ruly'.

All these gals lying on their backs, getting paid for what they used to give away, will do wonders for the unemployment rate, the VD clinics, and the divorce lawyers.

Can't you see it now? Two mothers bragging to each other about their children. The first one boasts, "My son is a great abortionist. Not a single baby he gets in his clutches lives to tell the tale."

Not to be outdone, the other counters, "So what. My daughter is a world class hooker. She makes men come and go so fast, if a band was playing, you'd think it was a parade.
 
First of all, nobody is magically creating this industry of Prostitution. It has always existed, all they would be doing is stop trying to interfere with a peaceful exhange of a service between two consenting people.


And your imaginary dialogue is also quite far from truth. Both abortion and prostitution are frowned upon plenty.

But just because you don't like it doesn't mean you should FORCE everyone to abide by your rules.


You need to respect the fact that those people own themselves. They alone have the right to decide how they live their lives, and claiming a higher right on their life is unconstitutional and inhumane.
 
If it's a business transaction between two consenting adults, no problem. Make it legal and controllable, cut out the pimps, the coercion and the slavery. Institiute STD controls and make them pay tax on their earnings.
 
Gabo said:
First of all, nobody is magically creating this industry of Prostitution. It has always existed, all they would be doing is stop trying to interfere with a peaceful exhange of a service between two consenting people.

In your sentence above, change the word 'prostitution' to the word 'abortion' and then consider the industry that was created when abortion was legalized.

And your imaginary dialogue is also quite far from truth. Both abortion and prostitution are frowned upon plenty.
Perhaps, but not nearly enough.

But just because you don't like it doesn't mean you should FORCE everyone to abide by your rules.
I didn't make the laws that 'outlaw' prostitution. This was done by the legislators whose responsibility it is to protect the public.

You need to respect the fact that those people own themselves. They alone have the right to decide how they live their lives, and claiming a higher right on their life is unconstitutional and inhumane.

Right. And those who disobey the law deserve to be prosecuted, don't they?
 
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Fantasea said:
Right. And those who disobey the law deserve to be prosecuted, don't they?

They should. But prostitution shouldn't be illegal. And if it wasn't illegal, they wouldn't be prosecuted.
 
Fantasea said:
In your sentence above, change the word 'prostitution' to the word 'abortion' and then consider the industry that was created when abortion was legalized.
When something is legal, anyone that wants to do it does it.
When something is illegal, less people do it but they use radical, more dangerous, and/or more expensive means to do it. But it doesn't change how many people want to do it.


Fantasea said:
I didn't make the laws that 'outlaw' prostitution. This was done by the legislators whose responsibility it is to protect the public.
By casting your vote for people that keep prostitution outlawed, you are just as responsible for the outcome.

And the job of the legislators is not to protect the people, but protect their rights.


Fantasea said:
Right. And those who disobey the law deserve to be prosecuted, don't they?
Well.... if you REALLY want to prosecute all the politicians, I guess we technically should because they are all disobeying the law.

The law set by the Constitution, granting each and every citizen "liberty to the fullest extent".

You would also have to prosecute any person who has ever voted for those politicians because they are also indirectly responsible.
 
Prostitution is a matter of degree. Some people choose to be paid directly, in cash, for sex. Some will accept dinner and a movie in return for a quicky. Some will even marry some schnook and milk him out of everything he has, using her virtues to manipulate financial gain.

Some prostitute themselves in business. Some prostitute themselves politically. As mentioned many times in this thread, it is merely a transaction and a merely a matter of symantics as to legality.

Ponder this: What is the difference between a patron and a prostitute having sex for pay in a brothel, as compared to two actors getting paid to have sex in a porn flick? Why is one a felony and the other "art"?

Hypocracy and intellectual inconsistency abound.
 
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