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Proposed Game Plan For Democratic House - Mass Impeachments

Sounds like the dims will be wasting everyone's time and tax dollars over the next two years. Great leadership!

Maybe the next two years will be the Democrats turn at wasting taxpayer money on something worthwhile, investigating this bunch of thieving scoundrels. The past two years has been nonstop widespread graft, corruption and unscrupulous money grabbing by Trump, Price, Pruitt, Ivanka, Kushner, Carson, Zinke and many others in this horrid administration, plus giving the wealthy the best and biggest tax cuts of their lives --- as if they needed it.
 
Maybe the next two years will be the Democrats turn at wasting taxpayer money on something worthwhile, investigating this bunch of thieving scoundrels. The past two years has been nonstop widespread graft, corruption and unscrupulous money grabbing by Trump, Price, Pruitt, Ivanka, Kushner, Carson, Zinke and many others in this horrid administration, plus giving the wealthy the best and biggest tax cuts of their lives --- as if they needed it.

Investigations are what is important in your life? Don't you think if Trump was doing all the things you claim that somebody in Obama's weaponized government would be holding him accountable? What money has Trump grabbed?
 
The Democrats will control the House on January 2, 2019. The Republicans likely will retain control of the Senate on January 2, 2019. Under the Constitution the House of Representatives is in charge of impeaching Federal officials.The Senate has the power to try the impeached official for removal from office.Many Democrats believe that President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed. Many Democrats also believe that Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh should be impeached and removed. Ditto Acting Attorney General Whittaker.




Perhaps the Democrats should consider assigning to committees the job of drafting articles of impeachment, where appropriate, and flooding the Senate with the duty to conduct trials. This would be a constructive and creative way to generate ferment.

Nixon was not tried in the Senate.
 
Nixon was not tried in the Senate.

When Rockerfeller let Nixon know he would not have enough votes in the Senate to survive, it was all over.
 
Strange.....

Why isn't Avenetti's accuser a hoaxer? Why are we automatically believing it happened when every last straw was grasped to support an accusation of fraud against Ford? Why a silly name stolen from Tucker Carlson of all people, "creepy porn lawyer"?






No doubt the Dems put her up to this, too:

https://twitter.com/DianneG/status/1062860189274198016

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1062856614657515520

So wait, you mean that the liberal standard of all women must be believed is now gone? That didnt take long.
 
The HoR may want to reconsider this plan. The American people want to see Congress actually legislate on bills. In 2020, the Democratic Party should want to demonstrate to the electorate why their party needs more elected officials. That would be better served thru passed bills aimed at infrastructure, deficit reduction, and healthcare. Even if the GOP Senate tables or votes against them, it’s on record.

Jmo
 
The Democrats will control the House on January 2, 2019. The Republicans likely will retain control of the Senate on January 2, 2019. Under the Constitution the House of Representatives is in charge of impeaching Federal officials.The Senate has the power to try the impeached official for removal from office.Many Democrats believe that President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed. Many Democrats also believe that Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh should be impeached and removed. Ditto Acting Attorney General Whittaker.




Perhaps the Democrats should consider assigning to committees the job of drafting articles of impeachment, where appropriate, and flooding the Senate with the duty to conduct trials. This would be a constructive and creative way to generate ferment.

That I am sure would backfire. It has all the hallmarks of a political vendetta. If there is one thing most independents hate is a political vendetta against anyone or party. The Democrats just had an election where independents voted Democratic by a 12 point margin. This reversed how independents from 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016 which was for Republicans. Some times by huge margins 2010 and 2014 and sometimes by only a few points, 2012 and 2016.

My advice for the Democratic House is to concentrate on passing legislation good for the country and forget any political vendetta. If the Democratic House forgets about the country, concentrates on ousting Trump and Kavanaugh and other out of pure political reasons, independents could very well reverse their 2018 decision to vote democratic and go back to voting Republican. Independents make up between 40-43% depending on the poll. Getting them mad because of political vindictiveness isn't a wise move. What you describe would do just that.

Moving them from being anti Trump to feeling like Trump et al are victims, having sympathy for them and reverse their votes from 2018 back to the way they were voting from 2010-16. Mark my word.
 
Investigations are what is important in your life? Don't you think if Trump was doing all the things you claim that somebody in Obama's weaponized government would be holding him accountable? What money has Trump grabbed?

A person would either have to be blind and deaf or intentionally turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the way that Trump has and still is increasing his and his families wealth by using his presidency. No modern president has profited this way during his time in office. Previous presidnts put their assets in blind trusts to avoid conflicts between their financial interests and the public interest. Trump did not.

He announced in January 2017 that he would step away from his businesses by putting his sons Donald Jr. and Eric in charge of them. But he stepped away only from their management, not their profits. Trump has done his best to promote those businesses with his presence relentlessly. During his first 514 days in office, he visited Trump properties on 159 of them.

At least two American embassies abroad have promoted Mar-a-Lago, on their websites. A national park in Virginia has offered Trump wine for sale. Kellyanne Conway publicly urged Americans to buy Ivanka Trump’s products on Fox News. Explaining the popularity of Trump’s Washington hotel, Conway told Politico that customers “look at it as a piece of the president.” As demand rose, the Trump organization raised prices.

Mar-a-Lago, which Trump calls the “Winter White House,” doubled its membership fee to $200,000. Trump International Hotel, whose managers market it as a destination for diplomats, raised room rates almost 60 percent. The Republican National Committee rents space in Trump Tower. So does the Pentagon. So does China’s largest bank. The government of Qatar this spring paid $6.5 million for an apartment in Trump World Tower — joining the governments of Saudi Arabia, India and Afghanistan there. China’s government is reportedly lending $500 million for a Trump-linked development project in Indonesia. China has also approved dozens of trademarks for Trump family businesses since he won the presidency.

Here's the kicker. Trump and his money-grabbing family are fully aware that what they're doing is not legal. In two “emoluments clauses,” the Constitution forbids the president from taking money from individual states or from foreign governments. Responding to those restrictions, the Trump organization has pledged to donate profits derived from foreign entities to the U.S. Treasury. In 2017, that donation was $151,000 — less than one-half of 1 percent of the $40 million in hotel income the president reported.

So please, don't even pretend to know that Trump and his family has benefited greatly financially from his presidency, it's absolutely obscene.
 
My advice to those Democrats is "easy does it." I believe that nobody is more deserving of impeachment than Trump, and I believe that Kavanaugh is likely deserving of impeachment as well, but they're going to have a bit more luck on their side if they hold investigations that conclude with legitimate evidence in favor of impeachment first.

This is a very big deal and everything has to be done by the book.

Impeach Kavanaugh for what?
 
Strange.....

Why isn't Avenetti's accuser a hoaxer? Why are we automatically believing it happened when every last straw was grasped to support an accusation of fraud against Ford? Why a silly name stolen from Tucker Carlson of all people, "creepy porn lawyer"?






No doubt the Dems put her up to this, too:

https://twitter.com/DianneG/status/1062860189274198016

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1062856614657515520

For one thing there was an arrest. Which means both a complaint was taken to the police and the police found it credible enough to proceed with the arrest...

Neither of those which happened in Dr. Ford's case.

That and Dr. Ford's allegation is as investigated...
 
For one thing there was an arrest. Which means both a complaint was taken to the police and the police found it credible enough to proceed with the arrest...

Neither of those which happened in Dr. Ford's case.

That and Dr. Ford's allegation is as investigated...


Ford did not immediately disclose, therefore there was no opportunity for police to find anything credible.

Moreover, the fact of an arrest or indictment is not evidence, or at least that's what the judge tells the jury in every single trial in every single courtroom in this country.



In other words, your attempt to point to a lack of arrest to suggest that Ford was somehow less credible was intellectually dishonest. Doubly so when Avenetti's ex says the allegations are bull****. So it sounds like you didn't even follow the links to boot.

Then again, that's DP these days. Just throw some word salads at the other person and pay no more heed.
 
Ford did not immediately disclose, therefore there was no opportunity for police to find anything credible.

Moreover, the fact of an arrest or indictment is not evidence, or at least that's what the judge tells the jury in every single trial in every single courtroom in this country.

In other words, your attempt to point to a lack of arrest to suggest that Ford was somehow less credible was intellectually dishonest. Doubly so when Avenetti's ex says the allegations are bull****. So it sounds like you didn't even follow the links to boot.

Then again, that's DP these days. Just throw some word salads at the other person and pay no more heed.

An allegation that went no further than "Twas him".... No time, no place, no details, etc.

In the Avenatti case it is credible enough for police (not politicians trying to curry favor) to arrest.... I suspect there was a lot more to the allegation than "Him".
 
Impeachment is not on the Dems agenda. Did you watch ANY interview with leading Dem House members? The priorities are healthcare, infrastructure, opiad crisis, and oversight.
That's what the 1996 Republicans would have said as well. In both cases "derangement syndromes" are in full force. More importantly impeaching Kavanaugh would make the rulings in any 5-4 decisions in which he was in the majority suspect (in some minds).

The Dems know any over reach in regards to impeachment will cost them in 2020. That is not to say oversight will not occur, it is the Houses DUTY to provide oversight on the Executive Branch. If crimes have been committed I fully expect the House to fufill their duty.
Impeachment would intensify the unproductive pot-stirring occasioned by the Mueller probe. That would be their purpose in view of the likelihood that their legislative agenda would be blocked at the Senate and the White House.
 
On what grounds does Kavanaugh even approach impeachment?

Yea....this oughta be good.

.............<crickets>...................
 
That's what the 1996 Republicans would have said as well. In both cases "derangement syndromes" are in full force. More importantly impeaching Kavanaugh would make the rulings in any 5-4 decisions in which he was in the majority suspect (in some minds).

Impeachment would intensify the unproductive pot-stirring occasioned by the Mueller probe. That would be their purpose in view of the likelihood that their legislative agenda would be blocked at the Senate and the White House.

If there was a crime committed, including Obstruction I expect the House to fufull their duty. Otherwise let Trump get his butt kicked in 2020. The latter is prefered, as you stated impeachment even with crimes will make the Dems legislative plans difficult to get thru.
 
Strange.....

Why isn't Avenetti's accuser a hoaxer? Why are we automatically believing it happened when every last straw was grasped to support an accusation of fraud against Ford? Why a silly name stolen from Tucker Carlson of all people, "creepy porn lawyer"?

No doubt the Dems put her up to this, too:

https://twitter.com/DianneG/status/1062860189274198016

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1062856614657515520

For one thing there was an arrest. Which means both a complaint was taken to the police and the police found it credible enough to proceed with the arrest...

Neither of those which happened in Dr. Ford's case.

That and Dr. Ford's allegation is as investigated...

Ford did not immediately disclose, therefore there was no opportunity for police to find anything credible.

Moreover, the fact of an arrest or indictment is not evidence, or at least that's what the judge tells the jury in every single trial in every single courtroom in this country.

In other words, your attempt to point to a lack of arrest to suggest that Ford was somehow less credible was intellectually dishonest. Doubly so when Avenetti's ex says the allegations are bull****. So it sounds like you didn't even follow the links to boot.

Then again, that's DP these days. Just throw some word salads at the other person and pay no more heed.
The fact is Ford didn't even take it to the police or any lawful authority until she felt a "civic duty" to derail Kavanaugh's nomination, 36 years later. I cannot overemphasize the important of a contemporaneous police report. That allows a professional investigation to proceed. That means physical evidence. That means interviews with people with intact memories, in some cases eyewitnesses. That means that a District Attorney makes a determination as to whether there are credible charges for the People to press.

An investigation 36 years after the fact has not of these. Does that mean that "Ford was somehow less credible"? Likely yes, since she waited beyond a point where Kavanaugh could defend himself. That's not definitive but my experience is that contemporaneous behavior is a very strong indicator of what happened. "Excited utterances" are even excepted from the hearsay rule in many jurisdictions.
 
And waste millions of tax dollars......

Sounds like the dims will be wasting everyone's time and tax dollars over the next two years. Great leadership!

Are ya'll sure? After years and years of investigations it may reveal that someone, somewhere might have a stain on their dress. And we all know how important that is to those republican fiscal hawks.
 
Are ya'll sure? After years and years of investigations it may reveal that someone, somewhere might have a stain on their dress. And we all know how important that is to those republican fiscal hawks.

I thought the same thing then, and during the Benghazi and email scandals. The government has a history of wasting time, energy, and money on all these show trials and hearings knowing full well even if they find out someone actually did something illegal nothing will happen.
 
I thought the same thing then, and during the Benghazi and email scandals. The government has a history of wasting time, energy, and money on all these show trials and hearings knowing full well even if they find out someone actually did something illegal nothing will happen.
Except when something did happen and Nixon was forced to resign as President. I do object to the holding of show hearings that are calculated to bring no results.
 
The Democrats will control the House on January 2, 2019. The Republicans likely will retain control of the Senate on January 2, 2019. Under the Constitution the House of Representatives is in charge of impeaching Federal officials.The Senate has the power to try the impeached official for removal from office.Many Democrats believe that President Donald Trump should be impeached and removed. Many Democrats also believe that Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh should be impeached and removed. Ditto Acting Attorney General Whittaker.




Perhaps the Democrats should consider assigning to committees the job of drafting articles of impeachment, where appropriate, and flooding the Senate with the duty to conduct trials. This would be a constructive and creative way to generate ferment.

not going to happen and if they do the senate just has to vote no on all of them.
no one is being removed from office so just move on already.
 
Ford did not immediately disclose, therefore there was no opportunity for police to find anything credible.
Moreover, the fact of an arrest or indictment is not evidence, or at least that's what the judge tells the jury in every single trial in every single courtroom in this country.


The MD police were waiting the entire time of her trial for someone to file a complaint and they said they would investigate it.
Neither Ford nor anyone else took them up on the offer to do so.

There was enough probable cause for them to make an arrest. Whether the prosecutor chooses to file charges further is up to them.

In other words, your attempt to point to a lack of arrest to suggest that Ford was somehow less credible was intellectually dishonest. Doubly so when Avenetti's ex says the allegations are bull****. So it sounds like you didn't even follow the links to boot.
Unless Avenetti's Ex was there her claims of what is or isn't are well bull****.
the fact is that someone filed a complaint and there was enough probable cause to arrest him for it.
also this person already has a protection order out against him as well.

more investigation is required and it is odd that the media is not reporting much of anything on it other than
the initial arrest.

Then again, that's DP these days. Just throw some word salads at the other person and pay no more heed.

Pot meet kettle.
 
Yea....this oughta be good.

.............<crickets>...................
Yeah, I just did a quick check and telling Congressmen they're partisan idiots is not an impeachable offense.
 
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