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although people might turn gay if stoned enough :2razz: )
You can turn gay if you get high too much!? Oh Lord!
although people might turn gay if stoned enough :2razz: )
I don't have a formed opinion on this issue but I just want to point out how you might be incorrect. Legalization would mean that it's ok to use because our laws follow what is socially and morally acceptable to do. They codify pretty much what we are allowed to and should do. Just like its not acceptable to go out and hit someone or steal their stuff, that's what the law mirrors what is acceptable in society and what we are allowed to do. Saying that using drugs would be legally acceptable, but not acceptable in society is a contradiction, because simply if you don't want them or think they are harmful, you should outlaw them. I agree that the practicality of outlawing drugs may not be good, but from an ideal standpoint it makes sense. What I'm concerned with is that the message it says to all people and also children is that when you grow up, it will be acceptable to try drugs because it is legally ok, therefore it is probably ok socially too. I'm not saying that using drugs is definitively a bad thing, and that drug users are all wrong, but looking from the position that we currently have established, its hard for me to get past it and move toward legalization.I'll try, but what do you mean by "ok" to use? Do you think it would encourage non-users to suddenly go out and become potheads? The laws have no known effect on the rate of use. Legalization doesn't mean it's "ok" to use in the sense that it would automatically become socially encouraged. It just means if someone wants to go to a liquor store and buy a joint instead of a six-pack, the law isn't going to tell them they can't.
I just want to point out a different position. The government has the right to dictate to people what they can and cannot do if it will harm someone's body. For example, lets say there was a weird cult that had its members significantly harming their bodies, even if the members agreed, would that be ok to let happen? And don't forget about addiction. The person may not be able to stop even if he/she wants to and it may require the government to not allow certain substances to prevent someone from falling into an addiction cycle.Since the government's job is to preserve our personal liberties, there should only be legal consequences if people take actions that infringe on the liberties of others. The government should not infringe on the liberties of soverign individuals by dictating what they can and cannot knowingly and willingly put into their own bodies. It's their body, which means it's their choice and nobody else's business - especially not the government's.
I don't have a formed opinion on this issue but I just want to point out how you might be incorrect. Legalization would mean that it's ok to use because our laws follow what is socially and morally acceptable to do. They codify pretty much what we are allowed to and should do. Just like its not acceptable to go out and hit someone or steal their stuff, that's what the law mirrors what is acceptable in society and what we are allowed to do. Saying that using drugs would be legally acceptable, but not acceptable in society is a contradiction, because simply if you don't want them or think they are harmful, you should outlaw them. I agree that the practicality of outlawing drugs may not be good, but from an ideal standpoint it makes sense. What I'm concerned with is that the message it says to all people and also children is that when you grow up, it will be acceptable to try drugs because it is legally ok, therefore it is probably ok socially too. I'm not saying that using drugs is definitively a bad thing, and that drug users are all wrong, but looking from the position that we currently have established, its hard for me to get past it and move toward legalization.
I just want to point out a different position. The government has the right to dictate to people what they can and cannot do if it will harm someone's body. For example, lets say there was a weird cult that had its members significantly harming their bodies, even if the members agreed, would that be ok to let happen? And don't forget about addiction. The person may not be able to stop even if he/she wants to and it may require the government to not allow certain substances to prevent someone from falling into an addiction cycle.
I will say as the measure has significant practical benefits to it though, as it would free up law-enforcement resources and generate money, and the current outlawing hasn't worked to well, but right now I have reservations of legalizing the substances. I probably won't stand in the way of the proposition, if the people want it let them have the proposition, but this is what I'm thinking so far.
I hope this passes, and becomes a catalyst for a national legalization bill.
Get real girl, can you, even in your wildest dreams, ever imagine Pelosi/Biden/Obama allowing this to be National law?
Legalization would mean that it's ok to use because our laws follow what is socially and morally acceptable to do. They codify pretty much what we are allowed to and should do.
Year after year school kids consistently report it is easier to get marijuana than it is to get tobacco and cigarettes. This is because a black market distribution does not present any controls or obstacles such as checking for ID at the point of sale unlike the controlled distribution of alcohol and cigarettes.
Actually, he's 100% correct on his assessment. Anyone who has paid any attention to politics for the last 12 years or so knows that wedge issues have been used for the purpose of driving out the vote and both sides have done it repeatedly.
Something being legal to do, does not equate automatically to something being ok or moral to do.
Getting stupid drunk each and every day is perfectly legal, yet it is not ok or healthy.
Having sex with multiple partners each and everyday is legal, but not morally ok to most.
Watching porn everyday is legal, yet to many is not morally ok to do.
Either you legalize pot, or you ban alcohol, and nicotine. Atleast be ****ing consistent.
Either you legalize ****ing cows in the ass, or you ban sex altogether. At least be ****ing consistent.
Negative.
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Either you legalize ****ing cows in the ass, or you ban sex altogether. At least be ****ing consistent.
Bet the mormons will fund a campaign against this like they did with gay marriage .. mormons from Utah that is!
But else I agree.. hope it passes.
I'll bet everyone who thinks that marijuana should be legalized smokes it.
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Either you legalize ****ing cows in the ass, or you ban sex altogether. At least be ****ing consistent.
Either you legalize ****ing a woman in the ass, or you ban sex altogether
Wrong. Sodomy laws have already been shot down by federal courts.
I think this was much earlier last decade (2000-2009).