Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?
"Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out."
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=h8577תַּנִּין tannîyn, tan-neen'; or תַּנִּים tannîym; (Ezekiel 29:3), intensive from the same as H8565; a marine or land monster, i.e. sea-serpent or jackal:—dragon, sea-monster, serpent, whale.
https://studybible.info/strongs/H8577Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions
תּנּים תּנּין
1. dragon, serpent, sea monster
a. dragon or dinosaur
b. sea or river monster
c. serpent, venomous snake
Origin: intensive from the same as H8565
TWOT: 2528b
15 “Look now at the behemoth
which I made along with you;
he eats grass like an ox.
16 See now his strength is in his hips,
and his power is in the muscles of his belly.
17 He moves his tail like a cedar;
the sinews of his thighs are wrapped together.
18 His bones are like strong pieces of brass;
his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the first of the works of God;
He who made him can bring near His sword.
When he wyll, he spreadeth out his tayle lyke a Cedar tree, all his sinowes are stiffe
There are the living fossils such as crocodiles and komodo dragons which never went extinct in the Flood. But other dinosaurs did survive the Flood only to go extinct later. If it can be demonstrated that dinosaurs living during the same time as mankind, then that places evolution theory is a serious and unsolvable dilemma!
The Bible does not go into great detail on dinosaurs but there are a few passages that refer to dinosaurs.
Isaiah 51:9,
Jeremiah 51:34,
The word "dragon" is the Hebrew tannîyn which has a broad meaning when applied to living creatures on earth. But in some verses it describes what many believe are dinosaurs. Consider the Strong's Definition:
Strong's H8577:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=h8577
Then there is this from the BDB
https://studybible.info/strongs/H8577
There is also a passage from the ancient Book of Job about a very large Sauropod:
Job 40:15-19,
Verse 17 in the Bishop's Bible is more clear:
This is a very large creature. The description here sounds a lot like a Sauropod. In the next post I will lay down a case in support of these Biblical passages. You can decide for yourself whether this solves the dinosaur mystery or not. Also keep in mind that the word dinosaur is a modern word first coined by Sir Richard Owen in 1841.
*Note: Not all references to dragon in the KJV mean dinosaur. Only a couple of those dragon verses can mean dinosaur. I will not be covering all verses in this topic. I do believe the next post provides enough answers for all of us.
Dinosaurs went extinct about 65 million years ago (at the end of the Cretaceous Period), after living on Earth for about 165 million years. If all of Earth time from the very beginning of the dinosaurs to today were compressed into 365 days (1 calendar year), the dinosaurs appeared January 1 and became extinct the third week of September. (Using this same time scale, the Earth would have formed approximately 18.5 years earlier.) By comparison, people (Homo sapiens) have been on earth only since December 31 (New Year's eve). The dinosaurs' long period of dominance certainly makes them unqualified successes in the history of life on Earth.
Show me some proof that is verified by Paleontologist in the fossil record. Common knowledge is dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago, eons before our ancestors first appeared.
I will trust the fossil record, far before a cave painting.
But I have an open mind
There are the living fossils such as crocodiles and komodo dragons which never went extinct in the Flood. But other dinosaurs did survive the Flood only to go extinct later. If it can be demonstrated that dinosaurs living during the same time as mankind, then that places evolution theory is a serious and unsolvable dilemma!
The Bible does not go into great detail on dinosaurs but there are a few passages that refer to dinosaurs.
You are merely parroting what evolutionists want you to believe.
You are merely parroting what evolutionists want you to believe. These cave painting are 100% authentic and so is the engraving on the Buddhist temple. These things are not fossils either. They are, however, proof dinosaurs and man co-existed and it was the Flood that wiped them out (though some did survive and even remain today).
There are the living fossils such as crocodiles and komodo dragons which never went extinct in the Flood. But other dinosaurs did survive the Flood only to go extinct later. If it can be demonstrated that dinosaurs living during the same time as mankind, then that places evolution theory is a serious and unsolvable dilemma!
The Bible does not go into great detail on dinosaurs but there are a few passages that refer to dinosaurs.
Isaiah 51:9,
Jeremiah 51:34,
The word "dragon" is the Hebrew tannîyn which has a broad meaning when applied to living creatures on earth. But in some verses it describes what many believe are dinosaurs. Consider the Strong's Definition:
Strong's H8577:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=h8577
Then there is this from the BDB
https://studybible.info/strongs/H8577
There is also a passage from the ancient Book of Job about a very large Sauropod:
Job 40:15-19,
Verse 17 in the Bishop's Bible is more clear:
This is a very large creature. The description here sounds a lot like a Sauropod. In the next post I will lay down a case in support of these Biblical passages. You can decide for yourself whether this solves the dinosaur mystery or not. Also keep in mind that the word dinosaur is a modern word first coined by Sir Richard Owen in 1841.
*Note: Not all references to dragon in the KJV mean dinosaur. Only a couple of those dragon verses can mean dinosaur. I will not be covering all verses in this topic. I do believe the next post provides enough answers for all of us.
Sorry the Bible and cave drawings are not the least bit reputable as sources. Dinosaurs died out 66 million years ago the earliest ancestor of man existed 6 million years ago and Modern Man has existed for 200,000 years.
Dinosaurs coexisting with man is as far-fetched as Klingons coexisting with man
Sorry the Bible and cave drawings are not the least bit reputable as sources. Dinosaurs died out 66 million years ago the earliest ancestor of man existed 6 million years ago and Modern Man has existed for 200,000 years.
Dinosaurs coexisting with man is as far-fetched as Klingons coexisting with man
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Show me some proof that is verified by Paleontologist in the fossil record. Common knowledge is dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago, eons before our ancestors first appeared.
I will trust the fossil record, far before a cave painting.
But I have an open mind
Another atheist who is gonna ignore evidence for the sake of his political views. Typical.
I was referring to this thread, not you in particular. Reading comprehension 101, dude.Wrong, I believe in Christ but I also trust paleontological science on this topic.
no no I don't ignore them maybe they found a skeleton it's not like they didn't know what a skeleton was people have those surely they encountered them the animals that ate had those so they definitely encountered them the first T-Rex head was found by a farmer not an archaeologist.So you are willing to ignore cave drawings of Sauropods that evolutionists admit are Sauropods?
well I already said maybe they found a fossil.Why are their cave drawings of Sauropods and an engraving of a Stegosaurus on a Buddhist temple?
no I'm going with hard science the fossil record for example.So you will ignore all this and just trusted what evolutionists tell you to believe in spite of hard evidence? Typical atheist.
to me (just my opinion) it's a measure of good faith that you can believe in Christ and still accept science.Even as a Christian (non religious, but believe in Christ) I need to couple faith with evidence (the two are not always mutually exclusive)
Between science and faith, I doubt a single Homo Sapeins, ever laid eyes on a living dino. The evidence beneath our feet, trumps an unverifiable cave painting.
I am a Christian and like I have said, an avid fossil hunter in the bone valley region of Fl. Look up the Peace river valley. World famous for fossils, though I have not found the first dinosaur fossil.
Wonder why? (of the thousands of fossils I have found)
Because Fl was sea bed 65 million years ago.
People might call me many things on DP, but most would agree I am the most well known fossil guy on DP.
I have spent thousands of hours in the field (and have the collection to prove it)
I can present proof (from my own personal experience, as well as established and well known paleontological science)
If you want to debate this topic with bonafide experts, might I Recommend "the fossil forum" Several professors of paleontology post there.
I post there as well. PM me if you join, I wont post my username due to the stalkers here.
Like I said, my mind is open but you have not posted proof.
to me (just my opinion) it's a measure of good faith that you can believe in Christ and still accept science.
In all fairness a cave painting could have been created up on site of a fossil. That's assuming the cave paintings are genuine I have my doubts.
Mankind certainly never coexisted with Dinosaurs. The fossil record proves this.
I was pointing out, Christians can still believe and be scientific.The bible is not evidence of any kind. It's a fantasy anthology.
I was referring to this thread, not you in particular. Reading comprehension 101, dude.
Threads like these can be summed up in one illustration:
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